Ventus

I have one too! How about that? CNtel ftw [img]http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls0hevcuUk1qh0z8ao1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1317005429&Signature=7k9bjqJ2kuaANi8BPLHtLCrW0VY%3D[/img]

If given the chance to roll Rush how would you choose to roll him?

Two terrible alliances sign a treaty with each other... Seriously though congrats guys! We love you both

[quote name='Azaghul' timestamp='1316787792' post='2806669'] Here's a spreadsheet we're keeping: [url="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0AsNLZLG7WAUddGc5Wm5ka043Qzl0a0dQMm4yQkU4TFE&output=html"]https://docs.google....TFE&output=html[/url] Totaled through the 21st, by my calculations MK is up 5300 tech to 4850. [/quote] o/ MK

What will you do with that freedom? Will you fight?

[quote name='Jgoods45' timestamp='1316769276' post='2806614'] [u][b]While Ventus is free to believe what he likes, his opinions do not represent that of TLR. [/b][/u] [/quote] This. We all have different believes and all that jazz. That's part of why we have so many treaties shot down recently, but that's better than having a treaty with an alliance that we don't like just for the sake of having "allies" unlike certain rivals/enemies of ours. Everyone can have an opinion, but I personally don't believe that one should leave due to a disagreement on one thing no matter how big it is but then again I am a patient man. tl;dr Freedom, liberty, pursuit of happiness, to each his own, yada yada yada

[quote name='Wentworth' timestamp='1316743943' post='2806412'] Funny, I translated the last set of logs as him saying, "ok". Could be mistaken though. O/ our new allies. [/quote] Ok is just 'k' with an o in front of it. We all know what text that simply says 'k' means. Anyways, looking forward to great things with this treaty NPO! Glad to have such controversial allies and I'm sure you are as well!

[quote name='Wentworth' timestamp='1316744086' post='2806415'] Wait, there is two tlr's? MIND BLOWN [/quote] Wait there are two NPO's? All good alliances share acronyms man. At least I hope tLR is a good alliance...

[quote name='Wentworth' timestamp='1316654279' post='2805595'] It would be glorious [/quote] If you call breaking CN glorious than yes. NPO joining CnG would lead to the CNpocalypse. Maybe that's a good thing though.

[quote name='RandomInterrupt' timestamp='1316650744' post='2805566'] You must not read the OWF too often. I try not to either for the most part, but it's full of pretty blatant stuff. The issue you are alluding to is water under the bridge. It is interesting to see your members react like they did above though. [/quote] We aren't baiting you guys, we just don't believe most of what you say. We're not baiting you, we don't want to steal TOP's war! (it's a joke that's kind of not a joke)

[quote name='RandomInterrupt' timestamp='1316636669' post='2805439'] 1. TLR's attempts to bait us have been pretty sad and transparent. [/quote] Necro =/= TLR Though your attempts to bait us have been pretty sad and clear. Especially the stuff regarding NPO. It provides us with a few good laughs though

[quote name='wickedj' timestamp='1316643551' post='2805495'] Oh jesus, Polar has NO room to talk down to ANYONE on Bob. your alliance literally ratted out its entire coalition and to this day tries to deny it [/quote] Yeah but then again according to Polar NPO has no integrity and TLR forced DH to attack NPO in the last war. For a minute there I forgot we had total and complete control over every action made by our allies, thanks for reminding me NpO!

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1316636111' post='2805427'] This post is a giant self-contradiction, it's quite impressive to behold. C&G's founding priniciple is a "shell" of what C&G believes? Okay. ODN hasn't transformed anything except their set of allies. Alliances are political entities and the rulers of their consituent nations who are politically-minded are perfectly right--and I would say obligated--to "bail" on an alliance if they find that the alliance's politics no longer flush with their personal politics/ideals. Are you honestly saying that once a nation joins an alliance then they are inextricably linked forever even if their is a radical shift in policy? Don't be stupid. It is intelligent and thoughtful rulers like Sal and Blacky that benefit alliances and who exercise the greatest logic in this world. I appreciate your indictment of MK, GOONS, and Umbrella's behavior. What political repurcussions does TLR have in store? Perhaps some cancellations or downgrades. No? Then shut it. [/quote] Well let's see how many things are wrong with this post... No, Sal's idea of what CnG's ideals are is a mere shell of what they really are. He started in '09, after KARMA, so he doesn't even know what we stood for. I would disagree. ODN have become staunch allies, something that they didn't do back in the day. That is why everyone is bashing Sal, not just TLR and NPO either. This move was by no means risky, it's a win/win for both sides. We know that, NPO knows that. Sal apparently did not know that. This was not a radical shift in policy as TLR has always stood for giving alliances second chances and so has CnG, the fact that you did not know that only shows that you and Sal do not know what you are talking about. There will be not be another DH means there will be no more preemptive strikes on NPO. Don't pretend like you don't know how DH was announced. Also don't tell me to shut it, more people listen to what I say then what you say. You are widely regarded as ignorant.

[quote name='Sal Paradise' timestamp='1316582737' post='2805153'] All defence of this treaty consists of tripe and platitudes. Anyone actually attempting to go beyond this has revealed the stupidity of their position. Oh sure, hail you ODP and declare you're changing the world. Uh-huh, so TLR won't be defending NPO? Did you tell the NPO about this? !@#$, Ventus, don't change the world too fast. I don't think the world can handle it. [/quote] Just ignoring your bit on heritage as you were only in GR in 2009, you never actually had to fight NPO and thus wouldn't know what you are talking about. That's okay, not everyone was lucky enough to be in the CoaLUEtion. Defense. It's spelled defense. We want to have the treaty so that we can be friends with NPO and protect them if they are attacked unjustly or if they are attacked in a war that they did not start and vice-versa. The ODP is changing the world. We are obviously angering people like you, which is funny and also helps weed out the fickle members of the alliance. Only those who will fight to the end with no complaints will stay, the true followers of CnG's suicide pact are left behind while those who value pixels leave. TLR will not be defending NPO if they do something stupid, like spying on an alliance and starting a war or something along those lines. The common sense situations in which an alliance knows that nobody will want to come to it's aid if they do not have to. Now in any other situation we will gladly protect NPO, there will not be any more DH-like attacks on them. Also, I never claimed that I am changing the world. TLR and our allies might be changing a part of the world but I myself cannot change the world.

[quote name='Charles Stuart' timestamp='1316566593' post='2804930'] I am sure you meant this as a compliment. I hope so anyway [/quote] Indeed it was. Poorly worded but most should understand I meant that in a good way I hope!