Caleb279

[quote name='memoryproblems' timestamp='1281951461' post='2417764'] Eh, I'm sure there are some who may still feel that way about your alliance. [/quote] *Raises hand* Good luck, this is a brilliant move indeed

I didn't think N-X was big enough to protect anything.

[quote name='memoryproblems' timestamp='1281935359' post='2417551'] Hell, thats way more valid then the ones that Rok use to start wars, have fun with it, I guess. [/quote] This. GGA...they're in good hands these days

Join an alliance, read some guides, and know what you're doing before posting here.

Experienced seller here...doing one, long term if possible, tech deal. Send the money first.

We need an orphan themed alliance here. Nice flag stealing skills by the way (BTW: You should edit that charter... typos throughout.)

Where's CC at?

[quote name='Yuri Armstrong' timestamp='1281913432' post='2417092'] Think about it though. Nobody collects taxes or builds infrastructure and technology during the war because they would likely just lose it during the war. So therefore growth stops for 7 days while you try to drain technology and money from your victim, and while it may be the same as if you had grown for 7 days it probably wouldn't surpass it. You don't need war to grow and be successful, as GPA has proven. Actually I gained quite a bit during this war without attacking once, and I am confident I could destroy Mr. Nixon's nation if I were a similar man as him. But I have chosen not to counterattack and to choose the route of peace. It appears Nixon though is too cowardly to keep attacking yet to proud to accept peace, so it seems then that our war will expire with no clear winner. Still though, what he did was wrong, and he should give back what was taken illegaly. [/quote] Thats why you have a warchest. So you don't lose anything, and can still kick the crap out of puny nations. I'm proud of you...you survived a tech raid. But remember, nothing is illegal in tech raiding.

[quote name='Voodoo Nova' timestamp='1281800329' post='2415738'] Every alliance was new at some point. [/quote] This. Micro-alliance complaining gets really old. On topic...haven't seen a hardcore russian alliance in a while. Good luck.

[quote name='rrkilledme' timestamp='1281899700' post='2416862'] I loved the start of noCB [/quote] Amen. That was pretty humorous IMO, especially when I didn't have to get involved.

[quote name='kulomascovia' timestamp='1281909258' post='2417016'] Really? He is the loser in this war? Do note that Yuri gained ~1.3k ns in the duration of the war. I'd hardly call that a loss. [/quote] I didn't realize that actually. However I talked to the attacker...he's gained quite a bit as well.

Like this idea...if you get really into this, you should add a quiz that goes with it. [IMG]http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg414/salovskyj/Chartcopy.jpg[/IMG]

[quote name='Yuri Armstrong' timestamp='1281892041' post='2416754'] I see you totally ignored my point about how much stronger GPA is than GOONS. You grow more when you're not constantly at war. So because it was a tech raid he shouldn't have to pay reparations? Under what situation do you think reparations would be appropriate? The attack can't be justified in any way at all. He took what was mine for his own personal profit and is no better than a schoolyard bully. [/quote] I didn't ignore that. No, you don't. Correct. Reps are only paid when you're actually at war, and you lose said war. The winners get to bask in success. You are the loser. If, say, GOONS ever got pissed because of this you would be the one paying reps. Schoolyard bullies prosper here, as in real life politics. Deal with it.

[quote name='Yuri Armstrong' timestamp='1281832560' post='2416185'] Maybe not, but there are countless other war like alliances that aren't as big as they are. GPA has 287 nations and 12 million strength. GOONS may have more members but only have 3 million strength. That just goes to show the peaceful alliance is stronger than the big greedy one. Why should he not pay reparations? I did nothing to instigate this attack. He did 4 consecutive attacks on me at once, and 181 men is a terrible loss to any nation, especially because they died in vain. I will not "quite" my "whining" because I am the victim of an unustified attack on my nation that was done for profit only. It wouldn'tve mattered if he only did one attack, it would still be bad because I did nothing to provoke it. [/quote] The point is, the biggest alliances have been involved in the most wars. War is good, get used to it. Grow up. It was a TECH RAID. Why would he pay you reps for achieving what he set out to do? That makes no sense.

[quote name='Believland' timestamp='1281832128' post='2416178'] Call me crazy, but it's that you can't sign up for a trade circle. Forming DE. My worst moment in CN. Joining TOP was also pretty bad. [/quote] Right, which I don't understand...I had a TC on orange when I applied, and if he's refering to my current situation, I'm switching due to my last one falling apart.

[quote name='Yuri Armstrong' timestamp='1281831869' post='2416174'] Then explain the countless amount of neutral and peaceful nations who avoid war knowing that it brings only death and destruction to all involved parties. War is only vital in the defense of one's nation. I chose not to counterattack because I am a rational leader who does not take rash actions without first consulting all the options. I believed the best option here was to demand peace and ask for reparations. I do not demand reparations because I don't expect parasitic war profiteers to show any type of generosity or remorse. But let it be clear, this attack on my nation was ruthless and unprovoked. There is absolutely no justification for this, and reparations are the only way for Mr. Nixon to truly come to terms with what he has done. [/quote] Is GPA or TDO the biggest alliance? No. He'll never pay you reparations, nor should he. You keep using "ruthless and unpovoked" a lot. Didn't you say he only midnight blitzed you once? Quite your whining.

[quote name='Kzoppistan' timestamp='1281814054' post='2415912'] If my feelings were hurt. [/quote] That always worked

[quote name='Yuri Armstrong' timestamp='1281831088' post='2416165'] No, the best nations get to where they are by nation building, improvement swapping, trade circles, etc. Going into war actually stunts growth and makes your people unhappy. You'd probably be better off letting your nation grow on its own rather than stealing the hard work of other people. [/quote] No, you're wrong. Once you get a little experience you'll realize that. War is vital, end of story. [quote] No, we are leaders of sovereign nations who are suffering unprovoked attacks due to the greed of war profiteers such as Mr. Nixon. Such vile insults should be directed towards those who are too lazy to build their nation on their own and, like parasites, subsist on the resources of other nations. [/quote] Nope...they're directed at you. Those nations too inexperienced to defend their nation or join an alliance. Smart tech raiding= prospering nation.

[quote name='kulomascovia' timestamp='1281827886' post='2416127'] I disagree. The best nations get to their position by working for themselves and not by stealing the resources of others. Also, please get it through your head that some people simply cannot justify the destruction of a nation's resources for a meager gain. Any such injustice against a nation should be reported on these forums. [/quote] Not all of them. Ok, lets hypothesize for a moment. Lets suppose tech raiding is wrong, and this whiner actually has some legitimate claims in his posts. What is the point of posting here? That nation is in GOONS, notorious for tech raiding and its not like nations are going to start declaring war on GOONS for raiding [i]unaligned[/i] nations. That'd be silly. "Making known injustices" doesn't cut it. Its more like attention whoring.

[quote name='Banksy' timestamp='1281827790' post='2416126'] We don't really want people who are incapable of signing up for a trade circle. [/quote] Whats that supposed to mean?

Link is no good.

[quote name='nippy' timestamp='1281808999' post='2415862'] Laziness? Techraiding is lazy? Perhaps you're referring to your own laziness in not ensuring your nation was in a protected state....ah, yes..that makes sense. [/quote] Sigged. Thats a great line.

[quote name='Kzoppistan' timestamp='1281804104' post='2415781'] The slaughter of innocents and blatant disrespect for another country is no game, and your callous portrayal of such sickens me. And "hippy"? I am offended. I fight for what I believe in. And bathe regularly. If you were anywhere near my NS I'd call you out for such an insult. Violence is in man's nature, it will always be here. But the real question is what each person does to better themselves. Abstaining from taking from the weak builds strength, character, and integrity. Any fool can steal from a disadvantaged and defenseless creature. It is the path of weakness and cowardice. It takes a real man to earn what is his without stealing from another who didn't deserve it. [/quote] Yes, its part of the game. A very fun part. Let me clerify...I didn't mean to offend you there, I was simply referring to the peace loving attitude you show. Call it whatever you want, the best nations get there by smart tech raiding. Its a fun part of the game, and the whiners and complainers are just nations either too weak to defend themselves, too stupid to join an alliance, or are attention whores.

Either trying to join ODN, or not being able to participate as much as I wanted to in the Karma War. ODN's application process was complete crap, especially for someone who had been playing for two years. I was ignored, and shunned basically. Horrible experience. Back in ACF, we fought very briefly against NADC in the Karma War. We could've entered multiple times, and to this day I don't know why. We lost a number of players (almost myself included) due to not being more involved. That wasn't a very fun time.

[quote name='Kzoppistan' timestamp='1281779522' post='2415575'] Good, then I'm sure I won't ever hear any complaining or whining from you if you or your alliance ever gets rolled simply because you're weaker than someone. Since the justification for raiding is easy transferred to rolling a micro-alliance or any really anyone you can get away with. [/quote] Damn right I won't. [quote] What you're really saying is that you don't want to hear about the hurt and consequences caused by tech raiding, You just want get the profits without all that. Just sit down, take this gross violation, and shut up, eh? Hmpph. [/quote] Gross violation? Wow...you tech raiding hippies make me laugh. But basically. Or you know...play the game right and get an alliance. [quote] No, in this case he was not at fault, no matter how you paint it. Nixon had no reasonable justification for war and attacked someone simply because he could while hiding behind his AA like coward, like most do. You can say, well this the world we live in, and you can say, one should always have some sort of adequate protection in such a violent planet, which are both true, but it's also no less true to say, those that who tech raid have no legitimate reason except greed to do the asshatery that they do. [/quote] Tech raids are here to stay. Thats the point...no matter who's fault it was, if he had been in an alliance there would be no problem. But he got rolled...shut up, grow a spine, and take it like a man.