King Wally

ok shot everyone offers except for liopiop who needs to free up his trade slots so i can shoot it over.

just need uranium and marble.... ok i can see some of you guys are already making trade offers so I am going to change colour now, dump my existing trades and get this going ok. lets really try and nail down the last slot can everyone try and message a few people in game, perhaps post this on their alliance forums etc. cheers

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Nah dont take any notice of them, for some reason a lot of people on here hate new alliances... personally I love seeing people follow their dreams. Wish you all the best, also by the way how many people were in your founding group? Just out of interest. We started a new alliance about 2 weeks ago, there was about 6 of us in the initial group, thats now hit 20 and keeps growing. also just a word of warning, id make that protectorate announcement soon, we found out certain groups watch these pages for DOE's just to hit new alliances while they are small and unprotected. We had a minor run in with one of these but fixed it up quick. Good luck from all the crew at KIA!

Great tips on tech raiding in the guides section.

just sent about 20 messages out... the last slot is always the hardest the fill so if we all keep an eye open it will help. good doing business with you!

thats the plan.... also got your in game message but id probebly prefer to wait for us to nail down that last supplier if thats ok with you... don't want to catch myself out if it takes a few days. I'm definetly in, im a long termer too so you wont see me dropping out anytime soon. I will start messaging in game to find a marble / uranium supplier ok. msg me in game if you find someone sooner.

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ive got cattle and pigs ... if that cattle slot opens up let me know

Yep im a true monster... I shoot zombies in left 4 dead... i torpedo japaneese warships in battlestations Pacific... I flamethrowered a mutant in Fall out 3... and I raid unalaigned nations in CN. Yep a true barbarian if I ever saw one, how sicko's like me are allowed to play games I'll never know.

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Yeah nice count... hope to catch up soon!

actually ive raided many nations with heigher NS then mine... I only hit inactive non alaigned nations and often there arn't a great deal in my range, if one presents itself with higher NS it doesn't stop me, its actually a little exciting knowing you could have a fight on your hands. Also I would like to suggest as Tsar has been aluding to that we should try and bring in a new culture of Dueling to Cybernations... if two individuals agree to the duel, let it happen. No 3rd party can step in, and we all gather around the colleseum to watch.... perhaps even take bets if someone was business minded enough to set up a legit betting agency and publish betting odds. If two alliances have a problem let each one present a champion of set NS range and let them duel to decide the winner of the disagreement. I like the concept, plus it may actually prevent some largescale alliance wars. Its been done through history and could be used here again I feel.

Well right there I had to faceplant myself into my keyboard.... my god man... why on earth draw a comparison however loose between blowing away a couple pixels on a family friendly computer game and the savage abuse of women in the real world? You need to stop, pry yourself back from the "role playing" for a second and remember you are playing a game... a game with warfare designed into it... by the designers... why? ... so us players can declare war on each other and be "entertained" by the game... seriously I get the whole politics of CN but sometimes it goes too far in here.

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I was about to say the same thing... the mother lion doesn't just send its cubs to take down a fully grown zebra when it doesn't know what to do... it finds a wounded foal and lays it down for practice... hence why raiding is the best war practice possible for new rulers. Not reading manuals imagining the fight. also number 1 mario guy... you speak my mind mate... every word

nice... i like your style... good luck , just message me in game if KIA can be of any assistance.

... or a couple hand grenades... always does the trick

yeah true...i think we are mixing issues I've been focused mainly on raiding in general here

No I would activate our MDP's and protection treety's and get ready for war. You wouldn't see a complaint... this is a game... i've built my nations defences as best I can and if theres a challenge then it would be met to the best of my ability. If worst came to worst i'd reroll, make a hit list and have some fun with it second time round.

look i got raided when i was first started and was unalaigned... so i fixed it... got an alliance... easy Turned out i didn't overly like the set up there so I fixed it.. I got together with some mates and made our own alliance. ... then we got raided cause we didn't have a larger protector... fixed it... (thanks Invicta ) I've been on both sides of the fence trust me... but you didn't see me on here whinging about it, I fixed the problem like every sitting duck non-alaigned nation can. I just don't get why a nation (in this case an obviously large experianced one) is been baby'd becasue they don't want to fix up their defences? ... (also the whole nuke thing is so you know well outside the laws of my alliance and I don't agree with it, but im not going to tell anouther alliance what they can or cant do and how to punish for it etc unless it involves an attack on one of my members.)

Guarantee you wouldn't be the only guy on that side of the party. Any other alliance that thinks it has some god given right to punish other sovereign alliances for deads done against non allaigned nations is seriously mistaken. It has nothing to do with you... if DT leadership have an issue with their member they will deal with it. And Alpha sorry mate but you have misread me, suggest you re-read my comments.

at a quick glance that stands however it is this very raiding that forces people to band together and form alliances. And I for one beleive it is the alliance side of CN that is the truely interesting part, if we devalue the need for alliances and the experiance I really think that would take even more away. The threat of war (raiding included) is a vital ingrediant to promote healthy active alliances and turns CN from a one dimentional game played alone to a 3 dimentional network of interaction. You need to look at the full concequences of what you are wishing for there.

...also a flame thrower wouldn't go astray , always comes in handy when clearing a fox hole B)

Well if an alliance really is going to play cowboy and dish out vigilantee justice and protection for non-allaigned nations i think they had better make some official public annoucements. ... and then get ready for a lot of work. Also i beleive you may have mis-interpreted my notion of helping nations only after they change AA. Its not one of my boys attacking them... so it isn't me holding a gun to their head. I'm simply offering protection if they join. You would also be interested to know some of the most loyal members I have seen have come through this method, they actually witness first hand you helping them and see what protection can offer their nation.