Manetheren

First off, let me begin with a petition to kick Rotavele out of RP since he clearly is just a troll (not to mention the worst RPer we've ever had the misfortune to encounter). Second, you aren't the rebel of RP. It takes skill and intelligence to do that. You are just an annoying troll.

[quote name='Sargun' timestamp='1300028050' post='2662931'] The last "world war" I can recall was about 1939-1945, between the United States and Nordlandic Germany [/quote] Technically Germany invaded Poland, bringing France and UK+Commonwealth into the war. The US didn't join the war until the surprise Japanese attack on the Tahoan naval base in Hawaii on December 7th 1941, combined with later Japanese attacks on US territories in the Philippines. Or at least thats what happened in my history

"I am hesitant to agree to a transfer of sovereignty to the Cochinese authority, though we will honor the existing agreement. Any transfer of sovereignty would need to be reciprocated, in some form, and I am open to such proposals, should they arise. As for the islands that the National Front claims, it is quite simply the islands off the coast of areas controlled by our government. Those islands are Ascension, Tristan de Cunha, St. Helena, Bouvet, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands. Clipperton Island was a joint territory of the Tahoe Republic and Transvaal, and as we are the last reminants of Tahoe...well, enough said there." Van Haesten was visibly shaken while discussing Tahoe. All the Tahoe-Transvalers were hesitant to talk about their former nation and grew angry and even violent when it was even mentioned. It was a memory most tried hard to forget, many through heavy drinking, a typically Tahoan response, or by military service.

Georgia over Washington?! Okay first of all, Washington is an up-tempo squad. Second, they are one of the better shooting teams in the Pac-10 (not that that means much except that Washington is deadly from beyond the arc and has one of the best PGs in the country in Isaiah Thomas, and one of the better big men in Matthew Bryan-Amaning). Washington is 3rd in the nation in points per game. Georgia is 173rd. I seriously doubt that Georgia can pull off the upset, especially with how well Washington played in the Pac10 tournament. Its just not going to happen

"Vedran, I intend to rebuild Transvaal back to its former glory, with or without treasonous cowards like Cruywagen." The venom in van Matteus's voice was unmistakable. "Annetjie, please. Sovereign. We accept the will of the people and shall agree to a referendum in Zambia and Rhodesia...and the other territories that support your authority I suppose. We have stated that already. I state again, our claim is for Namibia, Botswana, Lesotho and South Africa, though I fully expect Limpopo and Mpumalanga would rather...well, lets say they would rather remain a part of Arctica. Johannesburg and Pretoria I do not wish to let go, no matter the result of a referendum. It is the capital of Transvaal, and due to the deaths, an accurate referendum cannot be held."

Van Haesten nodded at van Matteus's retort, speaking before Cruywagen could answer. "Field Marshal, you yourself said that there is no succession plan in place with the Staatspresident's death. Who then has the legitimacy of the people? A Prime Minister who attained power through immoral and quite possibly illegal means, or a senior officer of state appointed by the Staatspresident. No, my authority is derived from one source. I am fighting for Transvaal. Hofmeyr surrendered. [i]You [/i]surrendered." Van Haesten sneered. It was obvious to all present that he considered this an incredible display of weakness, "You, Field Marshal, are supporting the dismantling of your nation. You are supporting a foreign regime taking over your nation and you are explicitly supporting that regime through military actions. I say you have lost all your legitimacy through your treason." "The National Front of Transvaal is the ONLY force, military or political, fighting for the restoration of Transvaal's independence. THAT is why we are the legitimate successor government. That is why we shall establish the legitimate successor state. I am willing to negotiate with the Arcticans over our future and the territorial limits of the new state, but I will not concede our legitimate authority." [quote]A plan that has been considered by the Minister and I is that any Transvaal territory taken unto the Union would become a sort of independent republic with its own government and would become part of a federal system, similar to the old United States of America, or the current United States of the Island on the Isle of Man. This would, of course, require a partial restructuring of the legislative system to make for more fair representation. First, political parties will be considered legitimate groups in elections. As it stands now, every candidate runs independently so that he or she may be judged on their merits and individual platforms rather than their party affiliation. Given the political situation in Transvaal I mentioned before, parties will become a more important force in politics. Secondly, with the small population of the Union as it is today, our population-based unicameral legislature will not be enough. It will be kept, but likely we will add a second house based on equal representation per republic.[/quote] Van Matteus began to speak, "We will not split ou-" Van Haesten cut her off, understanding that more delicate issues are at stake. "I am not comfortable with this, but will allow it only following a referendum. As I have said, Cruywagen is not correct." Van Haesten's deliberate insult by ignoring the Field Marshals title was noticable, especially to Cruywagen himself, who scowled. "I will not restate my argument, my legal authority as an officer of state of Transvaal was properly exercised." "The core of South Africa is, as you say, quite delicate. Namibia, southern Angola and Botswana are all relatively unpopulated and currently occupied by my military forces. The National Front shall retain them, though will volunteer itself to a referendum. South Africa, we claim in its entirety. As you know, my forces currently occupy the Cape Provinces, the Free State, Lesotho and North West Province. I have no doubt that the people of Limpopo, being mostly populated by blacks, would rather stay with Arctica, as would Mpumalanga. However, due to the nuclear attacks on Johannesburg, its population is severely depleted. We are not willing to hand over Johannesburg in its entirety no matter the result of a referendum, which cannot be truly accurate due to the nuclear attacks."

"We can negotiate territory in a moment, but right now we must achieve recognition as the legitimate successor state to Transvaal. Without that then we have no legitimacy and no matter the result of the negotiations, we cannot hold ourselves to Transvaal's standards." "As for territory, I am willing to accept the idea that a majority of the population in Zambia, Rhodesia, Malawi and Mozambique do wish to remain under the protection of Arctica. However, I cannot see why their unilateral joining of the Union of Arctica should be allowed. Instead, I propose an expanded Transvaal-Arctica area of joint sovereignty over Zambia and Rhodesia with Malawi and Mozambique joining to Arctica as integral territory."

Van Matteus smiled at the Arcticans surprise over her presence, though Cruywagen's glare was unsettling. As the Nationalist delegation took its seat, General Van Haesten responded to Vedran's question. "Sovereign, Colonel. Field Marshal Cruywagen." Van Haesten nodded at the three as he spoke, "The first and foremost goal of the National Front of Transvaal is the complete restoration of the Republic of Transvaal to its sovereign state. Though the terrorist attacks on [b]our[/b] nation were horrific, we do not recognize the legitimacy of Prime Minister Hofmeyr's declaration announcing the end of Transvaal independence." "Thus, we seek recognition as the legitimate successor government to the previous government led by Staatspresident Botha."

Need a Junio Borghese type intervention and prevent any nations from even being on the map without a serious change in attitudes.

How about you go be the village idiot in some other forum

[quote name='Fizzydog' timestamp='1299901816' post='2660915'] You can call the Ottoman-Red Dawn war a World War, since it was basically 2 versus a dozen or so. Quite a bit less than WWII, but still pretty nice. As for pacts, I think they are 10x better than individual treaties, as they make for better wars and less webs. [/quote] You realize that world wars are relatively even wars that encompass, well...the world. There is absolutely nothing that makes the Ottoman-Red Dawn war even like a World War in any way, except for the fact it was a war. And maybe the fact the Ottomans fought in WWI, though I have no idea why your nation was called the Ottoman Whatevergovernmentitwas, and that hardly counts.

[quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1299883547' post='2660463'] "We have not made one threat. We wish to leave and enter our country on our own terms. It is our nation. No other nation should dictate who comes and leaves my nation. You want a regime change for us wanting our sovereignty?" [/quote] Zaboor has complete sovereignty over its territory and its EEZ. Zaboor must respect Novak's complete sovereignty over its EEZ, which happens to surround yours. Attempting to disband Novak's EEZ with the threat of forces is entirely unacceptable.

What Novak has done is entirely unremarkable. Every nation in the world has an exclusive economic zone. Throwing a tantrum and issuing extremely threatening language is unbecoming of a sovereign state and has made many wonder about the domestic stability of Zaboor. The National Front of Transvaal calls for a regime change in Zaboor to protect the rights of innocent civilians from destruction at the hands of deranged leadership.

[quote name='Botha' timestamp='1299830247' post='2659748'] [color="#000080"]"In terms of bargaining, should Southern Africa be carved up, then I suggest you regard the Cape Provinces and Namibia as being the absolute minimum that will be accepted by the Nationalists. While we may end up with the more liberal segment of Afrikanerdom under our nationalist rule, at least the blacks and coloureds that also fall under our rule would be a lot more compliant and subservient. I seriously doubt we could maintain hold over the rest of South Africa - the black population now unchecked will begin to increase in numbers and overtake the whites, and this will be nowhere greater than in the Transvaal and Vrystaat provinces. Arctica would win over the sympathies there on a scale we cannot match ideologically." [/color] [/quote] "It is my intent to negotiate for the entirety of the Republic of Transvaal as the legitimate successor government. Namibia and the Cape Provinces are of course the bases of our support, but I see no reason why we would surrender any territory currently controlled by the National Front: the Cape, Lesotho, the Free State, Namibia and Botswana. That said, I will be open to compromise, understanding the importance of territory. I will also propose population transfers, as I feel conservative Boer farmers in Transvaal may wish to return to the Cape in exchange for the black population." [img]http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/4562/r006zo7.jpg[/img] General van Haesten (standing in truck) takes a break from the roundabout drive to the Gauteng Provincial Legislature. His small convoy passed through Arctican lines, meeting up with van Matteus, who had flown in from Namibia, and Colonel Viljoens, who had left the fortified positions in Krugersdorp for the peace talks. Entering the monolithic stone building where the talks were to be held, Viljoens and van Haesten saluted their Arctican counterparts and waited for talks to begin.

"I am not prepared to risk the decapitation of the Nationalist movement should the Arcticans intend foul play. However, I am not willing to sacrifice thousands of lives attempting to conquer the rest of Transvaal by force, the Arctican advantage in air and sea power makes supporting any further offensives impossible. Without instituting conscription, they outnumber us as well. That is why we must end the war now. Your attendance at the peace talks will give great weight to the Nationalist cause and I have decided to call you to Johannesburg to join myself and Colonel Viljoens."

[font="Courier New"]These terms are acceptable. Myself and Colonel Viljoens will attend as chief negotiators along with our respective staffs. The presence of the Cochinese Government presents no problem for us insofar as their direct relation to territory, however, their role will be limited to as an interested party and not as an arbitrator. General Peter van Haesten Commander, National Front of Transvaal [/font] Along the front, Nationalist soldiers took the respite from the fighting to wolf down a meal, treat wounded comrades, rearm and prepare defensive positions. A message was sent to Cape Town, authorizing Annejtie van Matteus to assume command of the National Front should the talks be a ruse and van Haesten captured or killed. The nuclear warheads were relocated to Swakopmund Air Base where waiting aircraft stood by to arm them, if necessary.

Peter van Haesten stood in the concrete basement of a large office building in Johannesburg, a number of wounded soldiers lined the floor and his staff were crowded around radios, maps and computer screens, directing the battle raging across South Africa. Although his men had captured Botswana without a fight and Task Force South had admirably preformed in distracting more than half the ATDF and was likely going to breakthrough and open the southern front completely, van Haesten had to contend with the facts on the ground in Johannesburg. His men possessed control of much of the city but Arctican air superiority and the arrival of ten thousand fresh troops put his men decidedly on the defense. Without reinforcements, the Nationalists would not be making any more advances anytime soon. Even though his men were inflicting heavy casualties on the Arcticans, his forces were taking unacceptable losses as well, and since he had fewer soldiers to start with, the Nationalists would have to take a defensive posture from now on. That is why he had decided to pursue a ceasefire. His men had been told to hold positions and a message was sent to local Arctican commanders as well as the Arctican Government. [font="Courier New"]I have issued ceasefire to National Front armed forces on all fronts. Request Arctican ceasefire to begin peace talks mediation. Will wait 24 hours for response. -Van Haesten[/font]

Amusing, no education in Arabic. Fitting, since most people in Zaboor seem to be illiterate anyway. Certainly the grammar and spelling of their announcements give credence to this widely popular idea.

[b]Botswana[/b] The arrival of the volunteers from Sri Lanka two days ago allowed the less experienced Germanic Legion of volunteers further days of training. Although not hardened soldiers by any measurement, the Germanic Legion was deemed ready to go into combat. Volunteers with previous military experience were diluted among small units, a move that would hopefully allow the volunteers to impart their experience on the less experienced volunteers. The well trained and equipped volunteers from Sri Lanka, deemed the Asian Legion, would be responsible for striking Gaborone, the capital of Botswana. The small Arctican garrison of 750 men in Gaborone would contend with the 1,800 men of the Asian Legion, which having already moved across the Kalahari desert was taking up positions to the north of the city. It began its attack at dawn, having divided into three columns attacked into the outlying suburbs of Mogoditshane in the north, Tlokweng in the south and down the A1 highway to the east. Specifically avoided was the towering Kgale Hill to the west, which commanded a view over the city. The Nationalist commander felt that if the city fell, any defenders on the hill could be starved out. Otherwise, the large size of the city and small numbers of defenders would hopefully allow attacking soldiers to drive defenders back, either crushing them when they offered resistance or outmaneuvering them. Three hundred soldiers from the Germanic Legion were sent to the central city of Maun and 500 sent to the Rhodesian border of Francistown. The remaining 200 remained in reserve.

*** Classified Message to Sri Lanka *** Sri Lankan volunteers landed safely in Walvis Bay and have taken up a supporting position along the Namibia-Botswana border. Further information is classified but daily communications detailing casualties will be transmitted to the Sri Lankan Foreign Ministry. Bodies of deceased volunteers will be transfered back to Sri Lanka via civilian ships as wartime conditions allow, otherwise they will be buried with full military honors in the field.

[quote name='Penkala' timestamp='1299546525' post='2656007'] No, they're not. Now go away. [/quote] See folks, you know you are saying something [b][u][i]completely[/i][/u][/b] retarded when Penkala is telling you to shut up and go away.

General O'Donovan stood in the rubble of Mafeteng next to a burned out Arctican APC. Pillars of smoke spiraled into the sky, artillery and small arms fire still audible to the north where Tahoan artillery had begun shelling Maseru from long range. A group of wounded Arctican soldiers were carried in litters to a large triage center being set up in the center of town, where doctors worked hurriedly on the wounded of both sides. Along the A2 highway, the bulk of the Nationalist forces began engaging the retreating Arcticans, who had finally stood their ground and fought as they reached the outskirts of Maseru. The Tahoan forces pushed the Arcticans hard, not wanted to let the bloodied and battered former defenders of Mafeteng to have time to regroup. Unfortunately, the large Arctican garrison already in place engaged the attacking Tahoans, causing heavy casualties in the first wave. The arrival of the armored brigade from the north helped ease the pressure on the south, as the Tahoan armored units pushed the Arctican defenders into the city across the Caledon River. Brutal battles surrounded the bridges leading into the city, with the Arctican defenders repelling all attempts to take the bridges. Finally, the defenders managed to destroy the bridges, stranding the Tahoan tanks to the north of the city. Nationalist engineers began bridging the river to the north and south of downtown under fire, hoping to allow the tanks to cross the river and support the main attack from the south. To the south the Tahoan attackers attacked with a fury that hadn't been seen in the battle of Mafeteng. General O'Donovan was not going to allow the Battle of Maseru to turn into a siege. It would be a furious grapple of death. ------------------------------------------------- While the battle of Maseru was important, it was ultimately a side show to the monumental clash taking place around Johannesburg. The 8,000 men surrounding Welkom faced the full fury of the Arctican attack as they broke out towards Johannesburg, causing heavy casualties on both sides. The Nationalists, now on the defensive, fought the ATDF as it retreated towards the city. Van Haesten's full complement of roughly 12,000 men and material was bolstered by the 2,000 or so Transvalers under Colonel Viljoens. His outnumbered men were not going to be able to take the city by siege. Thus, van Haesten ordered a daring attack towards the city center from three directions, pushing south from Krugersdorp, east from Soweto and north from Alberton. Supported by artillery fire, the Nationalist attack was designed at capturing as much of the city as possible before the Arctican reinforcements arrived. Aiding the Nationalists were ADAM's, area denial artillery mines, essentially small, lightweight plastic mines deployed by artillery shell. Arctican forces coming to Johannesburg's aid would have to take the time to clear mines from the road, hopefully allowing for conventional artillery fire to target the slowed down convoys. Supporting the attack, the bulk of the Nationalist air assets launched a daring air raid on incoming Arctican reinforcements, targeting troop transports with cluster bombs trying to inflict massive casualties. Forgotten in the chaos of the battle, the 50 Tahoan Ranger special operatives launched a stealthy attack on Johannesburg Airport housing the Arctican aircraft. Chosen while they were on the ground rearming and refueling, snipers silently killed guards while other special forces groups infiltrated the base, silently planting charges and killing ground crews. An alarm was quickly raised and a full fledged firefight began as reinforcements showed up to try and drive back the Rangers. As the Rangers retreated into the suburbs surrounding the airport, a flight of four Tahoan fighter-bombers swept in low from the south at supersonic speeds. Roaring over the city at treetop height to avoid anti aircraft fire, they pulled up at the last minute, dropping the lethal LAAAS bomb of Tahoan design. The LAAAS was designed to destroy airfields. Its sub-munitions included normal fragmentation bomblets, designed to destroy aircraft, anti personnel mines that would impede repair work and cratering bombs, desinged to punch wholes in the runway. One aircraft, armed with a laser guided bomb, targeted the control tower, blowing it up in spectacular fashion. As it made a high-g turn, an Arctican anti aircraft system targeted the airplane, punching holes in one wing and causing the engine to catch on fire. The Tahoan pilot pulled up, ejecting over the city, as the aircraft burned in the night sky, before falling back to earth over the central business district of Johannesburg, crashing with a spectacular detonation. ------------------------------------------------ As the Tahoan soldiers landed in the hills surrounding Roma, they came under intense fire. Two helicopters were shot down and one more was damaged while on the ground. Tahoan soldiers found themselves in a life and death struggle to remain atop the hills as Arctican fire threatened to drive them off. Reinforcements struggled to push up the slope to help their comrades while artillery and helicopters provided suppressing fire. Seeing that the attack was unsuccessful, the Tahoan commander gave the order to retreat, and the Nationalist forces began fighting a slow withdraw down the steep slopes of the hills. More than 100 Tahoan soldiers were killed or captured.

[b]Cape Town[/b] Dr. Jeremy Black hurried past a security checkpoint, into the laboratory at Cape Town University housing the three nuclear warheads. His team had been tasked with disabling the security mechanism and rendering the weapons usable again. After various unsuccessful attempts at disarming the weapons security systems, he had decided to completely bypass security and disassemble the entire weapon. Only hours ago, the first of the three warheads had been finished. Pausing at a window overlooking the laboratory floor, he watched as a technician polished the casing of the first warhead. The polished metal caught the sun, flashing with an intensity that made Dr. Black look away. The intense light was a good reminder of the potency of the weapon his team had just completed. Other scientists were putting the final touches on the second bomb, it would be done within hours, and the third bomb was giving technicians trouble as they tried to place the uranium core in the right place. The National Front of Transvaal was now nuclear capable

Nordreich uber alles!

[quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1299318794' post='2653389'] I think you'll find that NPO treaty was the life support keeping NoR 1.0 alive. And I have to question the rest of your assertion, I've asked Zog the same thing and he had no answer. If NPO was so horrible to NoR 1.0, why did Martens found NoV under their protection soon so after NoR died? [/quote] Sorry, you are correct. NPO WAS quite helpful in keeping the original Nordreich alive. Their undermining of the Norden Verein cannot be defended. Throwing us to the wolves based on the political winds was not ever explained, nor forgiven. Unfortunately, this war is not about NPO. It is about FAN. Our friendship with them outweighs our dislike of NPO. We will do our duty no matter our opinions on NPO (and quite frankly mine are quite favorable, so don't think I have a long standing grudge).