Lord Tri

[center][img]http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae100/Bigles427/IPC/IPCflag.jpg[/img] [color="#008000"][size="5"][u][b]The Irish Protection Confederation[/b][/u][/size][/color][/center] Nations of the Cyberverse, Have you ever just had one of those nights...where you and a bunch of friends are totally slammed beyond all recognition, and some how you end up doing something that makes you wonder how you ever managed to graduate high school? Or have you ever had one of those nights where you wake up, have no clue where you are, and notice your pants, shirt, wallet, and even your socks are missing? Or even one of those nights where one too many shots of tequila causes you to fight a tree that actually "ran into you"? Combine the three people this has happened to, and you get one thing... It is with great pleasure and happiness that I introduce to you a new alliance. An alliance with dignity, an alliance with pride, an alliance founded upon the principles of friendship with all. An alliance full of...a bunch of drunken Irishmen? Well this is true, so we'll keep it in there. I introduce you to, the Irish Protection Confederation. [center][b][u]Forums:[/b][/u] http://s9.zetaboards.com/ipc/ [b][u]IRC Channel:[/b][/u] #ipc On Coldfront [b][u]Team Color:[/b][/u] White[/center] It's party time over in #IPC, so head on by, drinks are on the house tonight! [u][b]Charter of The Irish Protection Confederation[/b][/u] [quote][b][u]Preamble[/u][/b] We, the sovereign peoples of this Irish Alliance, in an effort to provide strong beer and protection while drinking it, to provide for the shared defense of all our members, to promote the growth and education of our member nations, and to provide other alliances with a firm drinking buddy, do hereby establish this Constitution for the Irish Protection Confederation. [u][b]Title[/b][/u] This organization of nations whom gather together to drink peacefully shall henceforth be known as the Irish Protection Confederation. A name which informs us of our duty to protect a fellow Irishman. [u][b]Bar Tab I: Admission & Membership[/b][/u] In order to be admitted into the Confederation, one must first visit the Confederation's Pub and fill out the following form on a preferably unused napkin. [quote] Nation Name: Ruler Name: Nation Strength: Nation Link: Team Color: Were you referred by anyone: If Yes, whom were you referred by?: Past alliances: Do you have any Gov. experience: does anyone want to kill you [ZI, PZI etc...]: Drink of choice: Anything else you want to say:[/quote] Merely filling out your application will not guarantee acceptance into our most honored of pubs, you must first agree to our Oath of Membership by standing atop the bar and saying the following for all to hear: [quote]I ______, of the realm of ______, swear upon my ability to drink to uphold the laws of those who bring us together and allow us to drink heavily in peace and harmony and agree to uphold the charter of The Irish Protection Confederation and acknowledge that i have read and comprehended it. Though barfights do happen, I will push such differences aside in times of crisis and band together with my fellow Irishmen. I will not quibble in the face of our enemies, and shall constantly strive to prove how much better our beer is. Should violence be necessary, I swear to defend my fellow Irishmen's beers until the last drop. I will always speak the truth to the bartenders in the knowledge that they will do the same for me. This I Swear, <Your Name Here>[/quote] All nations seeking acceptance into the Confederation may be subjected to a background check. This is no more than a Pub security measure, it is not meant as a personal offense to anyone. [u][b]Bar Tab II: The Bar Structure[/b][/u] [u][i]Napkin I: The Chief Bartender[/i][/u] The Chief Bartender is the supreme leader of the Irish Protection Confederation and is responsible for all bar activities. He or she will serve a life term, until he or she resigns or becomes subject to impeachment by the Bar-Goers. The main job of the Chief Bartender is to watch over and supervise the Council of Bartenders. The Chief Bartender is the prime decision-maker, and public face of the Irish Protection Confederation. However, while the Chief Bartender's approval is required on all proposed treaties and inter-alliance changes, the Chief Bartender can not pass a motion without the approval of at least [b]two[/b] Bartenders. In addition to these tasks, the Chief Bartender is responsible for overseeing all elections to assure fairness in voting. Should the Chief Bartender deem that the Bar is becoming too busy and needs some extra help, he or she may add positions to the Council of Bartenders at least one week prior to the time of elections, and elect new Bartenders. Should the Chief Bartender be inactive for a period longer than a week, the Bartender of Foreign Affairs will assume the position of Chief Bartender and the Bartender of Internal Affairs will call for an immediate election. [u][i]Napkin II: The Council of Bartenders[/i][/u] The Council of Bartenders is a council consisting of three members: the Bartender of Defense, Bartender of Foreign Affairs, and the Bartender of Internal Affairs. Bartenders are elected officials and serve for three-month terms. The Bartender of Defense is tasked with the organization of our military forces and the protection of our bar from anyone who wishes to start a bar fight with us. Only we are allowed to start bar-fights in our own bar! An approval is also required from the Bartender of Defense should the Confederation desire to venture out and attack someone else's bar. This approval is required except in cases of Mandatory Defense or Aggression treaties. The Bartender of Foreign Affairs is tasked with peacefully venturing out to other bars and hanging out, trying out their beer, and making friends. The Bartender of Foreign Affairs is also tasked with working alongside the Chief Bartender to negotiate conflict peacefully. The approval of the Bartender of Foreign Affairs is required for all treaties of any level. The Bartender of Internal Affairs is charged with the internal organization of the Confederation. The Bartender of Internal Affairs will be in charge of recruitment, financial aid, education, updating rosters, and informing the Bartender of Defense of those who are pretending to be Irish. The approval of the Bartender of Internal Affairs is required for any changes to this Charter or any other internal policy changes. Each Bartender is allowed to appoint [b]one[/b] Minister to serve under them and help administrate their ministry. They are also allowed to appoint as many deputies as they deem necessary to aid them with their tasks. However, as the military is a ranked system, the Bartender of Defense may only appoint a Minister. [u][i]Napkin III: Bar-goers[/i][/u] The Bar-goers make up the general membership of The Irish Protection Confederation. It is their task to vote and elect or re-elect Bartenders. It also their task to fully voice their opinion on how the beer is, good or bad. Bar-goers are required to join the military, however, should they join as a Ministry worker, they do not need to maintain activity in the military unless we are in a bar-fight with another alliance. [u][i]Napkin IV: Ministry Workers[/i][/u] Ministry Workers will be assigned work to do for the Ministry of their choosing. They are able to choose between working in Internal Affairs and Foreign Affairs. As an Internal Affairs worker, members will be charged with tasks such as: updating rosters, mass messaging members, dealing with our treasury, and educating our new members. As a Foreign Affairs worker, members will often be assigned an alliance to act as diplomat to. Other tasks can be assigned by the Minister or his Deputies for the workers to do. Should a worker have an issue with the tasks being assigned to them, they may always request to change Ministry's or simply join the Military. A Minister is always able to cut-off workers should they deem there are too many. In this case, these members will be asked to join the Military. Members are also capable of working in multiple Ministries and may also work in both a Ministry and the Military. Members should know that some form of active service is [b]required[/b]. [u][i]Napkin V: The Military[/i][/u] Those who choose not to work in a Ministry, but instead serve in the Military will be involved in the defense of our most holy of bars. This job is highly recommended for those looking to test their skills in war, as it will be your job to defend the Bar against rogue drunks, those who pretend to be Irish, and possibly against other alliances. [u][b]Bar Tab III: Military Structure[/b][/u] [u][i]Napkin I: Bartender of Defense[/i][/u] The Bartender of Defense is charged with all declarations of war against opposing alliances. He is also charged with working closely with the Minister of Defense in making sure the Military remains structured and organized. [u][i]Napkin II: Minister of Defense[/i][/u] The Minister of Defense is charged with the assignment of Captains to their specific companies. The Minister is also charged with approving or denying all engagements. Should the unfortunate time come where we find ourselves fighting another bar, the Minister of Defense will aid the Bartender of Defense as an advisor when it comes to military strategy. [u][i]Napkin III: Captains[/i][/u] Captains are appointed by the Minister of Defense to oversee a specific company and appoint Lieutenants and Sergeants. Captains are to consistently keep the Minister of Defense updated on current rogue requests and on how their company is doing overall. [u][i]Napkin IV: Lieutenants[/i][/u] Lieutenants work closely with the Captain of their company in keeping the Company organized and drinking heavily. Lieutenants are often promoted from the rank of Sergeant when they show superior leadership in battle. There may only be one Lieutenant per platoon. Should there be multiple, the Lieutenant whom has served the longest in that rank will lead over the platoon. [u][i]Napkin V: Sergeants[/i][/u] Privates are often promoted to Sergeant as a result of excellent leadership and overall good service to the Bar's military. Should there be no Lieutenant available, Sergeants are called upon to fulfill the leadership role. There may only be one Sergeant per platoon. Should there be multiple, the Sergeant whom has served the longest in that rank will lead the platoon. [u][i]Napkin VI: Privates[/i][/u] Private is the entry-level rank into the military. Upon joining they are assigned a company and a platoon to serve in. [b][u]Bar Tab IV: Tribunals[/u][/b] Should it be the sad event that a bar-goer must attend trial, trial will be called by forth by the Bartenders. Both the defense and prosecution are entitled to present their own evidence during the trial. Should the dependent request it, they may appoint someone else to represent them in the bathroom...we mean courtroom. [b][u]Bar Tab V: Espionage[/u][/b] The Irish Protection Confederation neither supports nor permits the act of espionage. Should one of our own be found spying upon another alliance, that Bar-goer will find his or herself banned from the bar forever. Should it be found that another bar has been spying upon ours, it will be interpreted as an act of war, however, diplomatic measures will be pursued before more direct action is taken. [b][u]Bar Tab VI: Un-aligned Nations[/u][/b] In recognition of an Un-aligned nations right to drink freely, un-aligned nations are not considered fresh pickin's by the Irish Protection Confederation. Un-aligned nations are not to be attacked by any member of the Irish Protection Confederation, unless the un-aligned nation has been deemed as rogue. [b][u]Bar Tab VII: Elections[/u][/b] Elections will be called forth by the Bartender of Internal Affairs. The Bartender will create a booth in the bathroom in which members will cast their votes anonymously. The Bartender will make sure the results are open for all to see as the election goes on. Elections will occur during a course of six days. The first day will be for nominations, the second and third for nominees to make their speeches, and the fourth, fifth, and sixth for voting. All elections will begin on the first of each month. The Chief Bartender will oversee all elections to assert their fairness. [b][u]Bar Tab VIII: Foreign Affairs and War Stance[/u][/b] The Confederation loves to make friends. The Confederation will always be open to diplomatic proposals, and is always up for sharing a drink with anyone, even our enemies. The Irish Protection Confederation will always have its doors open, so if there is a problem, just walk into the Bar and talk to us. The members of the Confederation are also firm believers in peace. Sure, every once in a while someone will smash a glass on someone else's head, but in the end we'll all have a good, drunken laugh about it. When it comes to Bar-fights, the Confederation will [b]always[/b] seek a diplomatic and peaceful means of preventing such a fight. We'd much rather settle the score over a fun-filled drinking competition and games as opposed to waking up the next morning with a black eye and sleeping next to some guy named "Betty" asking ourselves "What the hell happened last night?" However, should a Bar-fight break out with another alliance, know that the Confederation will always treat it's adversaries with the highest of respect. After all, anyone who comes into a bar filled with a bunch of drunk Irish people and picks a fight deserves respect. [b][u]Bar Tab IX: Impeachment[/u][/b] Should a Minister or Bartender be deemed no longer able to fulfill his or her position, bar-goers may call for impeachment. A voting booth will be quickly set up in the bathroom for members to simply cast an "Aye" or "Nay" vote in support or protest of the impeachment. In order to impeach, an "Aye" vote of over sixty-four percent (64+1%) is required. Should a Bartender be impeached, the Minister assigned by him or her will fulfill both roles until the first of the next month. Should a Minister be impeached, the Bartender assigned to him or her will fulfill both roles until the first of the next month. Signed, Lord Tri of Tribathia - [i]Founder[/i] Kingly of Quaaraaq -[i]Founder[/i] Lord Rav of Sporkson - [i]Founder[/i][/quote]

Oh those Nutty North Koreans...easily some of the best announcements in CN. Congrats on the new Gov.

Gairyuki...because Toad is the man.

Congrats guys, keep it goin.

[quote name='mco119' date='11 April 2010 - 10:48 PM' timestamp='1271022502' post='2256597'] Finally, I suppose I just question the sincerity of ADI across the board. They say they want change, so they elect Lord Tri. Then, following a war that should have convinced them more than ever of the need to change, what do they do? Right back to a Warbuck groupie. Lord Tri enters peace talks. He tells us that he "will never leave ADI, and will fight to the death!" That "if ADI goes down, he goes down," and that "he loves ADI too much to ever see it fail." We agree on tentative peace terms, and Tri agrees to take them to his government. Two full days pass with no word, and then we find out that not only were the peace terms never even MENTIONED to ADI, but Tri has flat out left the alliance. So much for honesty and the giving of one's word. We enter peace talks with other government members, who assure us that nobody in ADI ever knew about the attacks but Warbuck. We're highly skeptical of that, but things continue. This thread is started. First it is claimed people didn't know about Warbuck's plans, then Nathan Grants admits most did. First it seems okay to denounce Warbuck, then Grant says it isn't. Initially things are humble and sincere, then ADI's leader, with Warbuckesque flair, expresses they will "keep posting as much as they'd like on the OWF, no matter what anybody thinks." I suppose my point is that ADI doesn't seem to be able to tell up from down, or top from bottom. Sorry, ADI, but at this moment I am very skeptical of you... [/quote] I really did try very hard to avoid ripping apart this paragraph (at least the part about me)...but here we go again. [b]"Finally, I suppose I just question the sincerity of ADI across the board. They say they want change, so they elect Lord Tri. Then, following a war that should have convinced them more than ever of the need to change, what do they do? Right back to a Warbuck groupie."[/b] First and foremost, Lord High Sentinels are not elected, they are appointed by their predecessor. I, someone who disagreed with my predecessor on an almost daily basis (a man you claim is so overly arrogant and incapable of seeing his own wrongdoings), was appointed as Lord High Sentinel, by John Warbuck. I believe I did bring about some change in the alliance's foreign policy. Nathan Grant, was appointed by ME. Not by popular demand or some election, but by me. I felt he was the best man for the job, and I chose him. Nathan Grant was also far from a "Warbuck Groupie". I can vouch that the two also did not see eye to eye at times, so once again, speaking from your pent up emotions has done you wrong. [b]"Lord Tri enters peace talks. He tells us that he "will never leave ADI, and will fight to the death!" That "if ADI goes down, he goes down," and that "he loves ADI too much to ever see it fail."[/b] I never stated any of those things. I told you explicitly and clearly that if peace was not secured, I would stay with ADI until the end. Peace was secured, and as any member of ADI can acknowledge, my resignation was a long time coming. [b]"We agree on tentative peace terms, and Tri agrees to take them to his government. Two full days pass with no word, and then we find out that not only were the peace terms never even MENTIONED to ADI, but Tri has flat out left the alliance."[/b] I did in fact bring these terms to my government. I informed Shades, Grant, and I believe Kap and Archon as well. I instructed them to continue the peace talks in my absence, which they did. I also informed your leader, Philip110 of my resignation. So if anyone is having communication issues, that would be you.

ADI did what they thought was right then, they are doing what they think is right now. Good luck to all of you.

[quote name='supercoolyellow' date='09 April 2010 - 08:03 AM' timestamp='1270796567' post='2254105'] Ok, this needs to be said. ADI you need to stop making announcements on the OWF every week. In your position you're just asking for the responses you've been getting. Stay quite and make friends in private. I know its fun for leaders to make announcements on the owf, but there is a point where its not good for your alliance. [/quote] I'd say that the resignation of an alliance's supreme leader with virtually unlimited power and informing the world of his replacement qualifies for an announcement. But then again, I'm biased, I made the announcement And by the way, thanks everyone for the kind words.

[center][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/cybernations/images/thumb/3/38/Flag_of_ADI.svg/375px-Flag_of_ADI.svg.png[/img] [size="5"][color="#00FFFF"][u][b]A Message from the Aqua Defense Initiative[/b][/u][/color][/size][/center] Members of the Cyberverse, It is with a heavy heart I come to you today, as this has not been an easy decision to make. I have decided to resign from my position as Lord High Sentinel of the Aqua Defense Initiative. I will be naming Nathan Grant as my successor. He has my full confidence, and I believe he has the abilities to lead ADI back to prosperity. Some may end up wondering why I am doing this, well it's very simple: I am tired, and I also never quite felt at home leading ADI. It's been an interesting ride during my time as Lord High Sentinel. I have battled an overall low public opinion of ADI, worked day and night speaking with those who expressed a low opinion of ADI, dealt with a fairly damaging war, and yet I haven't regretted a single minute of it. I got to meet a lot of great people, even among those that I should consider enemies. Now, of course, there are a lot of alliances I had the pleasure of working with in my time as LHS, so it's time for shoutouts: [b]To FEAR:[/b] I absolutely loved dealing with all you guys, it was an absolute pleasure being your ally through thick and thin. You are all a great group of people that deserve every ounce of respect I could possibly muster. [b]To NATO:[/b] You were also a group of people I found I could always count on. Being considered a friend of yours was both and honor and privilege. [b]To GUN:[/b] Our Aqua buddy, I will never forget the pleasure I had working with all of you. [b]To UCN:[/b] UCN, also a group of people I'd consider my friends. I got to know all of you when I was Lord of Foreign Affairs, and we were writing the "Ruffles Are Better Than Lays" Accords. I still prefer the first title we came up with, Darkfox knows what I'm talking about. [b]To LSN:[/b] Our fast-growing protectorate, it has been an absolute pleasure watching you grow to be almost as strong as your protector! Robster, I wish you the very best of luck as you continue your way towards a sanction. [b]To RoK:[/b] While I understand shoutouts are typically supposed to be directed towards good friends, I have been one to consider the respect for my naysayers in the highest regards. We had our issues, yes, however I am very happy that we managed to work past them and come to a mutual agreement. [b]To the Opposition (People who didn't like us):[/b] It has been a pleasure having all the fun-filled debates and while some of you may think I never listened to a word you said, I listened and respected every single word that went through my mind, I just happened to disagree with you here and there. I have always been a firm believer in respecting your opponent, and that is just what I did, I pray that I made a difference for some of you. And above all: [b]To ADI:[/b] It has been an absolute pleasure serving as your Lord High Sentinel, and as I am sure you already know, you'll be in good hands with my successor. The members of ADI were among some of the best people I have met in Planet Bob, and it was an absolute honor serving you each day. I wish all of you luck, and I pray that ADI succeeds beyond anything we ever dreamed. Good luck. Now, this is starting to get incredibly long, so it is about time I take my leave. Good luck to all, and it has been a pleasure working with all of you. Sincerely, [i]Lord Tri of Tribathia[/i] Lord High Sentinel Emeritus [b]Aqua Defense Initiative[/b] [img]http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae100/Bigles427/150px-Royal_Seal_of_ADIsvg.jpg[/img]

Easily one of the best DoE's I have ever read, welcome

[quote name='Tint' date='06 April 2010 - 07:49 AM' timestamp='1270536540' post='2250160'] As mco said, lets revisit this next month. [s]You want some? Hmmmm....[/s] [/quote] I'm gonna exclude that last bit. The first sentence was kinda BA maybe semi-intimidating, but that last bit made you sound like one of those creepy old guys who sells candy to little kids out of the back of his Vanagon.

[quote name='Tint' date='06 April 2010 - 07:32 AM' timestamp='1270535556' post='2250142'] Noticed you skipped over the whole War Chest thingy. Kinda Important. ETA..I'm done in this thread. [/quote] What do you want me to say for that? Congratulations I guess? Cheers? Let me get some?

[quote name='mco119' date='06 April 2010 - 06:56 AM' timestamp='1270533377' post='2250108'] So, if I understand you correctly, you would rather ask nations from other alliances to die for you, simply because you would rather not "endanger" your members? What of their members? Is their tech, land, money, etc, less valuable? You may be able to "avoid" damage to your members, but you certainly don't seem concerned about your allies getting the same break...irony at its finest, seeing as ADI turned its back on their allies in a time of need. You are quite lucky your friends take a different view of what is "in their best interest." Something to think about in closing: do you know many nations have attacked Semper Tyrannis, Lord Tri? 27. Do you know how many of those attacking nations were ADI? ONE. We are not rogues either. We have an alliance, and that can be clearly seen....and, my friend, you are so sadly mistaken if you think we are on our way down. What could POSSIBLY make you think that at this point? Has this attacked come off as poorly planned for you? All I will grant you regarding us being "on the way down" is that we only have $12 billion between our 9 nations left..so our funds have dwindled some. Best of luck in the weeks to come. No further hijack from me from this point on. [/quote] I was wondering when you'd show up. Let's analyze this little post. [b]So, if I understand you correctly, you would rather ask nations from other alliances to die for you, simply because you would rather not "endanger" your members?[/b] My members are already endangered. Peace mode has been used strategically throughout the history of Planet Bob. Pardon me for preparing for the aftermath of this debacle. [b] What of their members? Is their tech, land, money, etc, less valuable? You may be able to "avoid" damage to your members, but you certainly don't seem concerned about your allies getting the same break...[/b] The Initiative is extraordinarily grateful of the help our friends and allies have given us, and we have said this on multiple occasions. The sacrifices their members are making will never be forgotten. The second half of this is basically the same thing I said above, so I'm not going to repeat myself. [b]...irony at its finest, seeing as ADI turned its back on their allies in a time of need.[/b] That situation occurred under a previous administration of ADI and would never have been handled the way it was if I was around at the time. But I'm not even getting into this now age-old argument. [b]You are quite lucky your friends take a different view of what is "in their best interest."[/b] We're exceptionally lucky. We already knew that though, but you saying it always made me feel nice and warm. [b]Something to think about in closing: do you know many nations have attacked Semper Tyrannis, Lord Tri? 27. Do you know how many of those attacking nations were ADI? ONE.[/b] Um yeah? You were the ones who attacked us remember? It kinda makes sense that our allies would have sent more attackers then we did seeing as we're on the defensive end of it...but I don't know, maybe I'm the nutjob. [b]We are not rogues either. We have an alliance, and that can be clearly seen....[/b] Thats cute. "We're not rogues cause we decided to give ourselves a totally awesome AA!" Cool man. [b]....and, my friend, you are so sadly mistaken if you think we are on our way down. What could POSSIBLY make you think that at this point?[/b] Well, once again. Basic logic, thats about the only direction you can go, I didn't specify how long it would take did I? I just said that you were on your way down...which is true. [b]Has this attacked come off as poorly planned for you?[/b] No. Try reading the post you quoted. "Only a fool would deny that these rogues have caused significant damage to ADI, they were well prepared and well organized." [b]Best of luck in the weeks to come. No further hijack from me from this point on.[/b] At least one sentence had some value to it.

[quote name='Trace' date='06 April 2010 - 06:25 AM' timestamp='1270531524' post='2250069'] Hey, I heard you guys were all hiding in peace mode from some rogues. c/d? [/quote] This has absolutely nothing to do with the post at hand...but it's all good. Only a fool would deny that these rogues have caused significant damage to ADI, they were well prepared and well organized. At the same time only a fool of a leader would endanger his member nations while these rogues are on their way down, particularly when such damage could be easily avoided. The only reason they are in peace mode is because I ordered it to be so. So no, they aren't hiding, they are following my orders.

[center][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/cybernations/images/thumb/3/38/Flag_of_ADI.svg/375px-Flag_of_ADI.svg.png[/img] [size="5"][color="#00FFFF"][u][b]A Message from the Aqua Defense Initiative[/b][/u][/color][/size][/center] Members of the Cyberverse, Well, lets start with the bad news first. The Aqua Defense Initiative is currently undergoing some internal reorganization and will be temporarily closing its doors when it comes to new diplomatic relations until further notice. It also upsets me to announce the resignation of The Masheen, Arbiter. At the same time I am proud to announce his successor, Archon Daverin. Therefore I bring you the updated government of the Aqua Defense Initiative: [b]Lord Tri[/b], [i]Lord High Sentinel[/i] [b]Kaplechistan[/b], [i]Judicator[/i] [b]Nathan Grant[/b], [i]Arbiter[/i] [b]Archon Daverin[/b], [i]Arbiter[/i] [b]Magister Populi[/b], [i]Lord of Internal Affairs[/i] [b]Shadeslayers09[/b], [i]Lord of Foreign Affairs[/i] [b]Kingly[/b], [i]Lord of Defense[/i] [b]Bobogoobo[/b], [i]Lord of Finance[/i] The Initiative will continue to pursue diplomatic relations with alliances immediately after our reorganization has been completed. In the mean time, feel free to drop by #ADI if you have any queries. Also! Spring cleaning, all alliances that have an embassy with us, please drop by and speak with either me or Shadeslayers so we know you are still hangin out with us. Signed, [i]Lord Tri of Tribathia[/i] Lord High Sentinel [b]Aqua Defense Initiative[/b] [img]http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae100/Bigles427/150px-Royal_Seal_of_ADIsvg.jpg[/img] EDIT: Forgot my fancy seal

They just grow up so fast *tears in eyes*. Keep it real LSN, and congratulations.

Always sucks to see an alliance disband. Good luck to all of you in your future endeavors.

[quote name='mco119' date='28 March 2010 - 05:33 AM' timestamp='1269750775' post='2238917'] This thread has been full of comments essentially implying that ADI is "a different alliance now," and that it "regrets its former actions, and is going in a new direction." With respect, the fact that the current ADI administration has retained you at all shows that none of this is sincere. If an alliance has truly learned from its mistakes, why would it have as an advisor the individual that is largely responsible for its past troubles (to say nothing of its current reputation)? The message this sends is that although ADI wishes to project an image of change, they aren't really all that serious about it. If it were a serious attempt to go in a new direction, to right past wrongs, you would not have ANY position in the government, and, further, you would likely be flat out removed from the alliance. Look at the real world..did the Obama administration, which claims to wish for a new direction for this country, retain President Bush as an advisor? Of course not. One of the first rules of governmental change is to show the people that efforts to this effect are genuine, which is best accomplished by disassociating from those the public holds responsible for whatever the problem is. ADI has failed to do this, and I believe this is because you, John, are still a major influence on the actions of this alliance. However, even if this were not the case, even if you had left the alliance, ADI would not be excused from its past mistakes. They must be held accountable, and that is exactly what is happening now. Whether we like it or not, we must all, in one form or another, be brought to account for our errors. Can ADI run its government as it wishes? Of course. However, it should accept the consequences of this decision, and not spend time trying to convince people here that it really "means well." This will not be believed by most. Now, is John Warbuck the sole problem in ADI? No, he is not. That being said, his continuing presence serves as a constant reminder of past grievances, as well as almost certain future indiscretions. [/quote] [b]"This thread has been full of comments essentially implying that ADI is "a different alliance now," and that it "regrets its former actions, and is going in a new direction." With respect, the fact that the current ADI administration has retained you at all shows that none of this is sincere. If an alliance has truly learned from its mistakes, why would it have as an advisor the individual that is largely responsible for its past troubles (to say nothing of its current reputation)? "[/b] That individual is also largely responsible for the successes that ADI has had. Warbuck is an active and contributing member of this alliance, like many others we have. I consider every one of my members to be advisors to me as a leader, because without their support, I am not a leader. Does that mean I will try and please everyone? No. In the end I will do what I feel is best for the alliance, but not without careful deliberation with the membership, gov, and ex-gov of ADI. If I find a provisional member with a better idea than Warbucks, by all means, I will have no qualms with supporting it. The position of "Lord High Sentinel Emeritus" carries with it: no power and no more influence than that of anyone else in this alliance. [b]"The message this sends is that although ADI wishes to project an image of change, they aren't really all that serious about it."[/b] Aren't really all that serious about it? Are you serious? Since I became Lord High Sentinel I have made friends with former enemies, offered to speak one-on-one with members of alliances (friends and enemies) that had concerns about ADI, I have made almost every effort possible to extend a hand of friendship and cordiality with my enemies. I have spoken with Hoo several times, and would even go so far as to consider him a friend. So tell me, if I wasn't all that serious about it, why would I waste my time trying to correct an image that may never be corrected? I never was one to do something I believe is a waste of my precious time. [b]"If it were a serious attempt to go in a new direction, to right past wrongs, you would not have ANY position in the government, and, further, you would likely be flat out removed from the alliance."[/b] John Warbuck does not have any position in government, and I refuse to remove him from the alliance. You could compare it to how I simply could not find it in me to hate and despise RoK. Like Warbuck, RoK was there for us in the beginning and was a major contributor to the alliance we are today. I will never forget what RoK did for us as a fledgling alliance, I also will never forget what Warbuck has done for this alliance. [b]"[OOC]Look at the real world..did the Obama administration, which claims to wish for a new direction for this country, retain President Bush as an advisor? Of course not.[/OOC]"[/b] [OOC]You're attempt at comparing this to the real world was very poorly done. Was George Bush kicked out of the country and is no longer a citizen? No. Will he also always be able to say that he holds the rather prestigious title of being the United States' 43rd president? Yes. And, whether you want to believe it or not, as a former president, he will always retain some form of significant influence.[/OOC] [b]"ADI has failed to do this, and I believe this is because you, John, are still a major influence on the actions of this alliance."[/b] I still retain a great deal of respect for Warbuck, as I do with all my former superiors, regardless of what I think of their decision-making, I shall always respect them. I also do request his opinions on the internal workings of the alliance (something Warbuck will always be stronger than me in). Does Warbuck have much influence on what I do when it comes to Foreign Affairs? No, because that's where my strength is. However, when it comes to me not entirely understanding certain interior programs and proposals, his opinion does mean a lot to me. As I said earlier however, his influence on me is no stronger than that of any other member, if I notice a member who has a stronger plan, I will always steal it from them and claim it as my own...damn...I just admitted that didn't I? [b]"They must be held accountable, and that is exactly what is happening now. Whether we like it or not, we must all, in one form or another, be brought to account for our errors."[/b] Has ADI been brought to account for their errors? Well...seeing as we lost some friends, and made many enemies, and basically had our entire reputation annihilated overnight, I'd say yeah, we've accounted for our errors. Not to mention the sheer amount of time I have been putting in in an effort to make-up for past mistakes is definitely taking a toll on me. Now I'm sure you'll probably come up with some witty way to turn everything I just said around, but if you do not think I am sincere, then I will also invite you to come speak with me personally. [i]Lord Tri of Tribathia[/i] Lord High Sentinel of ADI

[quote name='Da DreadLord' date='27 March 2010 - 06:06 PM' timestamp='1269709565' post='2238381'] your alliance? your membership? lol, are you a warbuck mark II?[/quote] Far from it, thanks for playing. [quote name='Rampage3' date='28 March 2010 - 03:14 AM' timestamp='1269742472' post='2238764'] I have read this thread and I just have a couple of points. 1) I wish ADI the best in dealing with the rogues. They are no fun and these appear to be particularly difficult. As someone who has worked in this type of situation in the past, I wish them well as I would wish pretty much anyone. 2) Lord Tri, i can appreciate your frustration at the way this thread has gone, but it is difficult for many to "move on" as you insist when very little time has passed, when your alliance members seem to still be rather hostile and...wait for it...WARBUCK is posting like mad in the thread. That signals less change than you need in order to have a civil thread here so soon after the TPF debacle. This is especially true when it is being said that Warbuck is still running the place and the gov change was simply an attempt to get out from under his outright lying about Hoo and what you guys were facing because of that. Just think about it. You may not like it but it is reality right now. Good luck, Lord Tri. [/quote] I thank you for wishing us luck with the rogues. I also will acknowledge that some members of ADI have posted in this thread in a manner not befitting ADI, as such they will be reprimanded for it. Since when has it been "being said that Warbuck is still running the place"? I can assure you that if Warbuck organized it so he's still the man behind the scenes, I am the last person he'd have picked to be his mask. Why? Because I disagree with him...all the time. While Lord of Foreign Affairs, I found myself butting heads with Warbuck over almost every decision the alliance made. While yes, it is true that I will present ideas to Warbuck in the hopes of gaining another take other than my own, but it is my decision that is final, not his, not anyone's.

[quote name='Da DreadLord' date='27 March 2010 - 05:32 PM' timestamp='1269707539' post='2238356'] The fact that this has to be said in every of your topics suggests that maybe you should just keep your members from posting at all times.. [/quote] I don't need your personal opinion on how to lead my alliance, Da DreadLord. This thread has served it's purpose and has, yet again, devolved into senseless argument over the TPF War. Hence why I request that my membership cease posting and not get involved in the same old dance we've been doing for three months now.

[b]I request that ADI membership (including gov) cease posting in this thread. This is merely a request, not an order.[/b] The world has heard our side of the story, we have great friends, and we have our fun-filled enemies. Now, I will once again let all of you know, that the offer of civil discussion is always a standing offer with me. If you have the ability to slander us here, I'm sure you can muster up the ability to speak with me personally on IRC or via private message. [i]Lord Tri of Tribathia[/i] Lord High Sentinel of ADI

[quote name='Kevin McDonald' date='26 March 2010 - 08:39 PM' timestamp='1269632331' post='2237590'] I'm gonna pretend you stopped writing there. I will consider your offer. [/quote] [quote name='My Name Is Romance' date='26 March 2010 - 08:45 PM' timestamp='1269632683' post='2237599'] I have no idea who you or your alliance is, but the second half of your statement is kinda silly. You're really going to tell people not to be emotional and ignore the human condition? Like Kevin i'll live in my blind emotion and believe you stopped after the first few sentences. [/quote] After re-reading that bit I think I may have to listen to the two of you.

[quote name='Kevin McDonald' date='26 March 2010 - 08:26 PM' timestamp='1269631591' post='2237579'] All your points are valid and well written, but you're coming at it from a rational point of view. The people taking offense to ADI in this thread are coming at it from an emotional point of view. So, that will take longer than three months to heal. I also reject the notion that a new gov = all previous problems forgiven. That's just not the way the world works. [/quote] I'll take the first sentence as a compliment. Kevin, I extended a friendly hand to all of our "haters" the day I was given this position. I invited any and all to come and speak with me personally in an effort to shed some of the stigma surrounding ADI, the offer still, and always will stand. EDIT: Took out silly part.

Perhaps I am a little old-fashioned in my way of thinking, but isn't this whole "hate ADI" thing getting a bit old? At the same time, isn't it somewhat unjustified? I mean, maybe I belong in the loony-bin but here's my reasoning: 1. The TPF War occurred three months ago, many in the cyberverse would say "Get over it". 2. Many of you people could never point to anyone but John Warbuck, in case you missed the memo, he's not the boss anymore. 3. Since the TPF War, ADI has installed a new government, one that has publically announced it's disdain for the way the whole RoK situation was handled, and has stated that it does not condone the act of "log-dropping" in any way, shape, or form. So, what is left? Aside from old rhetoric and slander, what is left? Nothing. Also just to clarify, ADI is not "whining" or "begging for help". This type of message is very common in the cyberverse. It basically says "There's a bad guy out there, don't help him." It's really not that difficult of a concept to grasp, but kudos to all of you for thinking outside the box. [i]Lord Tri of Tribathia[/i] Lord High Sentinel of ADI

[quote name='Jack Diorno' date='26 March 2010 - 08:01 AM' timestamp='1269586842' post='2237164'] ADI IS NOT A PAWN1? :> [/quote] Was wondering when Jack would show up.

[quote name='Newhotness' date='26 March 2010 - 07:17 AM' timestamp='1269584246' post='2237145'] uh, what are you talking about? where is ADI putting their infra over their friends. you guys are just dealing with rogues. This isnt even the right situation to use that propaganda. come on now, youre trying to hard. just let Lord Tri and kulomascovia (even tho not in your alliance) do all the speaking. Theyre doing a much better job at it [/quote] I have mixed feelings about whether or not I should take this as a compliment...