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[quote name='memoryproblems' date='11 February 2010 - 10:19 AM' timestamp='1265912370' post='2175145']
Yeah, just wait until your on the losing end of a war or he runs out of money.
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And when that day comes that we take a beating I will take great pleasure in shoving those words down your throat. You can quote me on that Sunshine
El Hefe is one of the finest players in this game and someone who I would stand beside regardless the odds. You and your members have seen fit to comment on El Hefe whenever you have a chance... get over it break ups happen. Just please stop the whole clingy needy thing, we can agree that its him, not you if it makes it easier? -
This is priceless...
Troy please obliterate the lying weasel for me? As always my undying affection for DD and Cossar
and all my other friends at Troy. -
While Polar's (Grub's) recent actions have made this necessary, I echo SpiderJ and Jericoholic's sentiments.
I have to say Polar has some pretty damn fine members. I wish you well in the future. -
Wait, I lied I have way more to say and anyone that wants to point out to me that we are still allies I would be happy to graphically describe where you can shove it.
You attacked an ally of ours not once but twice in as many weeks. Now we dont ask that you sit around the campfire and sing songs with our friends but you damn well could show some respect out of consideration for an alliance you claim to be friends with.
Grub, you had options if you wanted NSO out either you were too lazy find them or your intent was to disrespect Ragnarok.
Either way my original statement stands... I am embarassed to call you my ally. -
I am embarassed to call you my ally.
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Good Hunting Troy!
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While I understand Echelon's desire to assert what they are calling a matter of sovereignty I still believe this was the wrong way to go about it and nothing in these past 16 pages addresses the fundemental point. They agreed to a surrender term and have opted to publically state they have changed their minds, do something about it if you want but this is how its going to be.
There was better way to go about this Neo, you could have gone to each of the alliances that signed this agreement with you and simply asked that it be done away with. Evidently based on what I have seen the alliances involved would not have had an issue with it.
It seems that the only conversation that took place was some time ago with someone that isnt associated with MA now by Caffine while he was in another alliance. Time changes many things, feelings, personalities, hell leadership of an alliance but one thing that doesnt change is the importance of honoring your agreements. Its a fair point that needs to be addressed, god forbid your in a similar situation in the future Echelon how do you expect the CN community to have faith that you will honor any terms that you agree to?
Oh and Hi Tela, good to see you again. -
[quote name='JackSkellington' date='31 January 2010 - 11:43 AM' timestamp='1264966997' post='2148096']
You lot have forced me to agree with KaitlinK for the first time in years. I will never forgive you...
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This [b]is[/b] bad... Nitemare -
[quote name='Solidus117' date='31 January 2010 - 04:18 AM' timestamp='1264940325' post='2147385']
Let it be known that our sovereignty will never again be so egregiously impinged upon, for we are the ones who determine who will serve and who will not.
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How does that work when the sovereignty in question was as you put it "egregiously impinged upon" by yourselves?
The terms of the Karma war were agreed to by yourselves and before everyone rushes to the "what else were they suppose to do they were getting rolled" the Caffine term was not one of the sticking points in the negotiations. The biggest one being the term identifying who pays reparations.
At the time of the Karma War Caffine was more of a liability to Echelon than an asset. Now with time, people can change and perhaps thats whats happened here. If that is the case then I wish Echelon well in the path they have chosen, I sincerely hope it ends better for you than the last time. However, I dont think this was the best way to start by blaming others. Accept responsibility for your own actions, they are yours alone and should be owned by you not just for the past but for also failing to go to those who you entered into this agreement with before posting.
Your word, in an agreement is something you want people to trust once thats gone you become nothing more than a punchline. -
[quote name='Andover' date='30 January 2010 - 09:21 PM' timestamp='1264915264' post='2146726']
Namely how you go to any thread that is not an ADI thread and start flaming Warbuck, Siriously stay away from ADI and leave it be.
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Well not [b]any[/b] thread
You really cant blame us when ADI and their protectorate (and now their Ally) go out of their way to get our attention. Hell, their protectorate went out of their way to make an entire thread about us. WAPA has now decided to do the same once again bringing ADI into the spotlight. Cant really complain that you get a RoK response when you/they mention our names. -
[quote name='John Warbuck' date='30 January 2010 - 08:35 PM' timestamp='1264912543' post='2146570']
It took a lot for him to publicly admit it as well after the reception he had when apologizing to you in private.
If you have issues with ADI, that is one thing, but making an attempt to activate defense treaties over something that is easily solved with an apology is just a poor show.
I'm still willing to negotiate terms on The Aqua Regime's behalf.
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Ummm... its not actually THAT hard to start scrambling after you realize your alliance is about to be turned into a parking lot and post a couple of words with an apology meant more for the general CN community than the alliance that was wronged.
Oh and just to clarify, WE arent trying to activate anything. This was all your protectorates [i]brilliant[/i] plan. Its sad when protectorates act without honor... isnt it? -
[quote name='Acca Dacca' date='30 January 2010 - 07:48 PM' timestamp='1264909722' post='2146455']
Oh please do not start back tracking...You arent Warbuck.
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Evidently, the apple doesnt fall far from the tree?
[quote name='Gecko' date='29 January 2010 - 11:17 PM' timestamp='1264909722' post='2143763']
For the last, and probably first time, [b]this is a serious thread![/b]
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[quote name='Gecko' date='30 January 2010 - 03:51 PM' timestamp='1264895506' post='2145893']
It was an ill-advised prank.
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Too bad you have picked up Warbuck's bad habit of flip flopping on the OWF... -
Way to try and get ahead of this...
Apologizing publically only works when you actually apologize to the person/group you wronged privately and the apology is accepted. Otherwise its just a lame PR stunt so when you get rolled you can cry out, "but...but...I apologized you big meanie"
Now before we see logs of you "trying" keep in mind having Warbuck (a known lying backstabbing weasel) in the channel with you was just foolish... shoulda manned up and came to Ragnarok to apologize IF that was your sincere wish.
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Someone is about to have a really bad day...
Fail thread is just that fail
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For Admins sake he is the only other person on earth that knows what the UFL is.
Unfortunately, I know too.
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since when were the logs proven they were faked? never
Never? Really? Do we have to do our logs dance again with your leader admitting it himself?
Edit: Oh c'mon put it back... its more fun when you boys say stupid things, makes the mocking and pointing more fun!
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In my opinion, and the opinions of several others, this was done in an attempt to lock the New Sith Order into this war or enforce some pseudo surrender that would prevent us from possibly supporting our allies in any peace agreement. So be it.
TOP's paranoia is evidently contagious, I guess NSO should have gotten their shots sooner. You were slapped on the $@!, given peace and sent home yet here you are peddling conspiracy theories to justify hitting FARK.
Entering this conflict wont bring legitamacy to IRON/TOP/TORN's actions. There is no justification for for a pre-emptive attack due to paranoia but hey support away just means there are more dance cards to fill
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Sorry I am late to wish you both well. I adore the both of you so much!
o/ Monos Archein
o/ TTK
Zilla
Rudy
Sev
Icy
Bomber
Wiccan
Cyphon
Okay, enough love... now go hit something already.
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In reading this thread you have to laugh at the fact there is no outrage over Ragnarok wanting to attack ADI... just of us doing it repetitively.
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Lol. That again? We all know what you said Hoo. I know the truth, and you know the truth. And the world has their own interpretation of it but will never truly know. Although your current actions are only proving that your character matches those logs.
I suggest you dont play the character card, it will not end well for you.
Personally, I like the logs where YOU are asking for forgiveness, acknowledging that they were fake, and telling Hoo you are going to post the truth, only to change your mind saying that your allies wont let you. Hoo graciously accepted your apology on the condition that you come clean AFTER you lied about him and backstabbed an alliance that looked after you from the begining.
Well look at that you finally got one right... his character does match the logs.
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At least NATO and Company have gotten ADI's support in writing publically. It saves Warbuck the time of creating false logs, and pretending he doesnt know how to plug in a computer.
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Congrats to iFOK and FCO on drawing the USN.
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This is surprising... good luck to the members of Epicurean.
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Imminent threat of destruction? Come now, John. Everyone knows that isn't true. Rok and Athens never intended to destroy TPF. If you have proof, besides your added line, please show it.
Now now give him a minute, his log editing skills are rusty he hasnt done it in what... 3 days?
Ok, admit it, you spent the last few weeks watching Olympic Curling
in Alliance Announcements (IC)
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22 pages later the fact remains you can't call it an attack on an alliance when no alliance exists to be attacked. PC did their homework and put more effort into the research than most raiders would have.
I am curious (and perhaps this has been mentioned elsewhere) How much has Echelon collected in reparations for these nations in the past (July 09-Feb 10) when these nations were raided before PC latest raid?
Echelon, those that fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it in other words... this has Caffine's style of FA work written all over it. Ummm good luck with that?