Yevgeni Luchenkov
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No, we're not. While we've agreed on the "an attack with one is an attack on all" philosophy espoused by the Equilibrium coalition, we've not made any effort to engage GOONS. We certainly have the option to fight against GOONS, and we considered it, but there's people we'd rather hit. Any of our people involved with GOONS are either in at an ally's request, or jumped the gun based on our discussions. It'll be dealt with.
So your King (well, the other one) jumped the gun and declared war without double checking if his own government had actually declared war? Happy to know.
Boy, it took your government nearly 20 hours to figure out what had happened and that's after we started dropping heavy hints everywhere. You are the very definition of incompetence. Let The Stratephor lead you, it will be merciful justice. -
Sparta, my name is Yevgeni Luchenkov. I act as the secretary of His Highness, the Stratephor.
He wanted me to tell you that, in order to form a more perfect union and because many foreign powers were now recognizing him as the legitimate ruler of Sparta, you should contact him to establish the relative powers of each entity. He is happy to acknowledge that your Kings now officially recognize his right to declare wars on behalf of Sparta, a most welcome first step. He is persuaded that we can reach an agreement on the separation of powers, one that will benefit both parties.For The Stratephor,
Doxa Sparta,
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This is the Fifth Column Confederation.
We believe in a Non-Interventionist Position, with honest, friendly relations with all. We believe that Cybernations was, is, and shall be a wonderful game, filled with incredible people. It is our sincerest desire to build positive relationships with any and all.
So,
Whos next to get their FCC Treaty on? :ehm:
A new FCC or did you just all wake up from that deep slumber you were in?
I'm asking without animosity. We were one of your very long treaty partners but the last year we tried talking to you, folks, we were utterly unable to reach people. Not just government, people.
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What is this, 2007?
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Happy birthday, Deinos.
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Because stupid joke? Haha TOP do stupid joke! Everyone acknowledge TOP stupid joke everyone
HA! HA! TOP DO FUNNY!
All hail stratephor and TOP!
A stupid joke would have been me posting a thread saying "Sparta declares war on GOONS lulz".
This is something else. This is something quite unprecedented in its scope. This is GGA level at its prime.
Hey Enamel, how does it feel to post in a thread about your alliance and not even be able to recognize your own government? -
Which still ignores the minor detail that if the NPL was planning on surrendering, the NPL government itself would have heard something about it? I certainly haven't heard a peep.
The fact that the nuclear nations of GOONs were ever even in RANGE of our group of what was about 2/3rds new recruits indicates that they had already lost. Having lost the real war, GOONs have been relegated to fighting us. They still have cash and/or can be mailed cash, and know that their front doesn't matter in the grand scheme of the global war, so they don't care. Our alliance, in turn, has been flattened below 30k NS. We still have cash and/or can be mailed cash, and we know that our front doesn't matter in the grand scheme of the global war, and so we don't care either. That's it. That's the whole sum of this front. Are we all ready to move on yet, or are we going to sit here for another 3 months debating who's interpretation of victory is less hollow?[16:54] <CA[NPL]> The goal of this is to put major pressure on goons and give us (NPL) some breathing room and a tad break to get our nations in built back up a tad bit to come in for any staggers and fill slots
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[16:56] <CA[NPL]> But due to a lot of the active ones having MP's and decent warchests, our guys are getting hammered[16:56] <CA[NPL]> so thats why these guys are comming inLike I said, from NPL's govt directly: you're in trouble.Which is hilarious. To be honest, though, given the competence level of your coalition partners, I'm not surprised. -
I suspect Zygon1 is incredibly misinformed. So long as the aid drops keep coming, we'll keep babysitting everyone in GOONs that got knocked down here.
I don't know, he was only the NADC rep in the coalition channel that planned the "renewed attack on GOONS" to "give a breathing room to NPL because they are getting hammered". I'd think he is rather well informed about the state of NPL, given that.
Again, hail Sparta.
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Always with you talking. NPL neither asked for nor needed saving. NPL is exactly where we expected to be and are getting to nuke GOONS....when they will come out and fight....at will. Do YOU even believe this dribble you spew? The logs and PMs I saw came from you, Sardonic, pursuing peace. Not us. Your rhetoric is so old and used up that I can't believe you are still using it. Sheesh. It's just sad how pathetic you and your alliance really is.
Not so fast.
Here are a few logs of choice from your own coalition battlefield leaders.
[16:47] <Zygon1[NADC|MOC]> Well widening the fron on GOONS NPL needs help they are on the urge of surender so we will take off heat so they dont
And again, this time from the very mouth of NPL:
[16:54] <CA[NPL]> The goal of this is to put major pressure on goons and give us (NPL) some breathing room and a tad break to get our nations in built back up a tad bit to come in for any staggers and fill slots
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[16:56] <CA[NPL]> But due to a lot of the active ones having MP's and decent warchests, our guys are getting hammered[16:56] <CA[NPL]> so thats why these guys are comming in -
Uhhhh yes, none of yours was waived...as I said. If you were polite and willing to work on moving passed issues as IRON were then it probably would've got waived. Instead you took the high and mighty douchebag path. As was expected, mind you. No wonder you and MK get on so well.
What MK wanted was paid to alliances like us who foolishly let them and CnG dictate what reps were extorted and where they went. What they waived was a token gesture and a fine diplomatic move if I may say so myself. More fool us in the end, eh? 'tis what happens when you trust the old CnG.
I have no idea what you are talking about. You imposed reparations on us. We didn't talk to you afterwards except to know where to send them exactly; that is, which of your nations. Which you produced for a week and then we had to pick nations ourselves.
I don't know how that qualifies as "high and mighty douchebag path".
By the way, I like your new government setup. A lot.
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This is gold. You do realize the last lot of reps we received was at CnG's adament request when we didn't want any? Even then most of it was waived. If TOP hadn't been arrogant douchebags they would've been waived too. Much to your further disgust.
Eh, time to let this cesspit of idiocy to continue. Carry on, gents!
o/ war and casualties
Not a single cent of what we "owed" to Sparta was waived. The only tech that was waived was a sum owed to MK.
I'm sure you'd have waived our reps but your government was too busy being inactive tools, to the point where we had to pick targets in your alliance and dump them tech because I couldn't reach your govt most of the time.
Which, ironically, leads us to this very war. In unsuspected ways.
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I'm not sure what I enjoy more either; GOONS chest thumping or how Sparta even manages to declare on GOONS when they're already at war with ODN/INT/Denios and TLR.
Oh, definitely the latter, trust me, definitely the latter.
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pfffffffffhahahahahahahahahaha
The irony is strong with this one.
Ain't it so?
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Sparta, always dogpiling. Will you extort reps from the GOONS too?
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NPO/MK is probably the one that has affected tactics/politics the most.
TOP/NpO would come close in terms of politics (proving that only a fool would put stock in Polaris to lead something, helping MK realign themselves) but not so much in terms of wartime tactics.
I'd disagree with your very last point.
In itself, TOP-NpO led to fairly boring matches. WotC, we outnumbered them by seven to one. BiPolar, we were massively outnumbered and Polaris played a sideline role. Grudge war, it'd be hard to find two opponents so different in NS composition.However, TOP-NpO, as a rivalry, directly led to TOP-C&G War. That war had serious impacts on tactics and nation building.
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Some of you either don't know what "greatest" means or it's "rivalry" you're struggling with...
I think it gives an interesting insight into how secluded some alliances are and how uninformed their membership is.
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Nah that's horse shit see below.
Or picked on-how MK and Umb shat on Alexandros O Megas and his alliance, when they werent even involved in Dave war.
What exactly constitutes a "super" nation. I'm a man of scientific nature. These designations mean little to me!
Are you kidding me? Umb is perhaps the king of avoiding war.
TOP-CnG
Umb: Hey let's roll TOP. They attacked CnG.....OK Sparta....you go first....we'll back you up!
TOP-NpO/Dave War
Sparta: Umb, TOP is threating to roll us. We need you to back us up. (See sig for details)
~a couple short months later~
Umb: BACKUP? WELL, IDK BOUT THIS SPARTA.
Umb: ROQ'S IN UR ALLIANCE? WELL I GUESS THAT MEANS WE'LL HAVE TO CANCEL.
1)Sparta never came "first" on TOP during BiPolar. You came in as poor seconds, mostly to keep us at war, while we obliterated the handful of nations you sent at us. You were also one of the few non-directly involved alliances who demanded war reparations from us. Not exactly a small sum either. For that, you earned our enmity. Not that you really cared at that point, you were all too happy to tell us that we would never have a chance to get them back, etc.
2)We didn't threaten Sparta months prior to the TOP-NpO war, at least not more than usual or not more than other alliances on our side did. If you meant that we planned to take a swing at you during an upcoming war, that much is true. You were a blob that needed to be taken down because your alliance had a solid upper tier after dodging many wars. We knew that several months before any war was to take place and maneuvered politically to see it happen. Our efforts mostly failed but, for a reason or another, Umbrella finally decided to stop protecting you. It probably had partly to do with you harboring Roq while Roq was openly threatening Umbrella.
You also spent most of that war in peace mode.
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Congrats to UCON on peace! For a small, young alliance with ties on both sides (more ties to Equilibrium's side, in fact), it's indeed unfounded for some to criticize you over this. Besides, your exit has received the blessing of the ally you entered to defend. What more can they expect?
Oh, yeah, sorry, you weren't invited to the victors' party. That might be source of your the delusion.
In other news, our front has been mostly civil, but I'll be sure to file your comment under unnecessarily snarky.
You're getting me wrong.
My second comment in this thread targeted the victors who often shower praise on the early alliances to surrender in the hopes to facilitate more surrenders ("see, it's not too bad, people aren't bashing you as you thought they'd, etc."). Sammy commented about his own motives for praising UCoN. I merely replied that I didn't consider DT as part of the group of "victors" in this particular case (and it's true, unless DT was at war with UCoN and I didn't know it?) and thus didn't target him or his comrades with my initial comment. It wasn't snarky and wasn't meant to be offensive.As a sidenote, my first comment was to compliment UCoN on their fighting.
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Well they have less and less to lose, regardless, those nations on the smaller side keep on losing. That is a constant.
Those of them which are ex upper tier nations (this thread being about them), aint returning up there anytime soon. Hole getting deeper, by the day. Damages they do, are being spread out among far more numerous lower tiers nations of opponents, lower tiers, being more cheaply and easily rebuild. Their pre war counterparts on the opposite side, not sharing their fate.
Considering smaller side has huge majority of their nations in this predicament (being ex upper tier or not), we again return to the fact that longer war is more favorable for the bigger side.
I'd agree with most of what you said, except for the part about their pre-war counterparts not sharing their fate. On our front - maybe it has something to do with a smaller number of nations being involved - we are often seeing the same people DoW'ing on us again and again. The people that used to compose the upper tier of the alliances arrayed against us are now firmly in the 40-70k area, where most of our people have fallen too.
The arrival of fresh forces has changed that to some extent but it is very recent.I was mostly making a point that you can't say: "hey, they had 9k tech, they lost 3k this month, they'll have zero in two months". That's just not how it works.
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Eh, my ulterior motives are that many of my friends live in that alliance, no matter what side they fell on in this war. They're good guys who did what needed to be done. Hopefully for most, that lasts way beyond the fruits of some forum PR push--and well after the last blackened rifle has been set aside in this war.
I don't consider you part of the victorious party either.
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It seems most of you don't realize that people lose less and less tech and infra as they go down.
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For one thread can we stop the bs? Just one?
Poor Brehon, I'm afraid that won't happen in your lifetime unless we all go silence radio at once.
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"Great" rivalries, people.
Not just "hey, we don't like the other group of terrible people and they don't like our terrible alliance either".
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Was this said with an honest desire to see that UCoN and their fighting reputation is preserved down the ages or out of a desire to try and make it seem that your enemies are insincere and not worth talking to?
For what it is worth, given EQ does not regard UCoN as a thread, recognises that they came to this war out of treaty obligations and not out of malice to the EQ side, I think it is extremely safe to say that the well wishing in this thread from the EQ side is genuine.
The only people who truly know how they fought are those who fought them. Personally I remember how well every alliance I have ever fought has fought and remember who fought well and would not state otherwise later on. I have also never praised the fighting of an alliance that did not deserve it.
I assume that those in MW are doing the same.
I think it's safe to say that the biggest reason why your side would compliment them on their fighting and shower them with praise for surrendering is because you want to provoke a cascade effect, not because they were or were not a threat or a malicious opponent.
Again, I'm not saying this is necessarily the case, I'm just echo'ing the comments made by others, especially the warning given by Craig.
Umbrella-AI Propaganda Thread
in Open World RP
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I guess all those years sporting anarchist and communist avatars and signatures were in vain: they found me. I'll have to rename myself Otto Von Luskof and my nation to the Kronstadt Reich.
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