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New Pacific Order Reps Race Day 13 Old Total 1713 Nation Violations 5.139 Billion 171,300 Tech +24 days of terms Today's Add-on's 138 Nations Violated 414 Million 13,800 Tech + 2 days of terms Total so Far 1851 Nation Violations 5.553 Billion 185,100 Tech +26 days of terms Comments: Sorry there almost a day late, (occ: i wrote the numbers down and had to run and i just was able to get on, so thats why there late) and sorry to the mods if i get this many posts in a row. >_< but i wanted to bumb this so people won't forget i didn't just drop the topic. [Disclaimer: Now this topic isn't a debate about those terms, as the title says, I made this to inform everyone what those terms would be, if added up. I am simply informing you what they are, so please don't write mis-informing reports. I am not here to debate how good/bad/ok/not-ok the terms are. I am just simply writing what they would be. So please don't throw tons of flames out there. Pwease ]

I wanted to say real quick, i have the base number jotted down, but i have to run to do some stuff (occ: RL calls me for a little while) so when i get back i will add all the numbers up and everything, so update will be a little late tonight on this.

New Pacific Order Reps Race Day 12 Old Total 1575 Nation Violations 4.725 Billion 157,500 Tech +22 days of terms Today's Add-on's 138 Nations Violated 414 Million 13,800 Tech + 2 days of terms Total so Far 1713 Nation Violations 5.139 Billion 171,300 Tech +24 days of terms Comments: Well were are nearing a certain surrender terms post count. But its slowing down real quick, so maybe we will make it. Thanks for you takeing my topic seriously and not flameing me! [Disclaimer: Now this topic isn't a debate about those terms, as the title says, I made this to inform everyone what those terms would be, if added up. I am simply informing you what they are, so please don't write mis-informing reports. I am not here to debate how good/bad/ok/not-ok the terms are. I am just simply writing what they would be. So please don't throw tons of flames out there. Pwease ] Edit: Codeing Issue

New Pacific Order Reps Race Day 11 Old Total 1438 Nation Violations 4.314 Billion 143,800 Tech +20 days of terms Today's Add-on's 137 Nations Violated 411 Million 13,700 Tech + 2 days of terms Total so Far 1575 Nation Violations 4.725 Billion 157,500 Tech +22 days of terms Comments: No comments today. [Disclaimer: Now this topic isn't a debate about those terms, as the title says, I made this to inform everyone what those terms would be, if added up. I am simply informing you what they are, so please don't write mis-informing reports. I am not here to debate how good/bad/ok/not-ok the terms are. I am just simply writing what they would be. So please don't throw tons of flames out there. Pwease ]

New Pacific Order Reps Race Day 10 Old Total 1306 Nation Violations 3.918 Billion 130,600 Tech +18 days of terms Today's Add-on's 132 Nations Violated 396 Million 13,200 Tech + 2 days of terms Total so Far 1438 Nation Violations 4.314 Billion 143,800 Tech +20 days of terms Comments: Passed over 4 billion today. Anyway, thanks for makeing this thread popular, but i guess its dieing now. Makes me so sad, TT-TT, but oh well. Keep posting to keep this thread alive if you want. I have no clue how long it will be until this is over, but i guess i will keep posting till it is. [Disclaimer: Now this topic isn't a debate about those terms, as the title says, I made this to inform everyone what those terms would be, if added up. I am simply informing you what they are, so please don't write mis-informing reports. I am not here to debate how good/bad/ok/not-ok the terms are. I am just simply writing what they would be. So please don't throw tons of flames out there. Pwease ]

New Pacific Order Reps Race Day 9 Old Total 1175 Nation Violations 3.525 Billion 117,500 Tech +16 days of terms Today's Add-on's 131 Nations Violated 393 Million 13,100 Tech + 2 days of terms Total so Far 1306 Nation Violations 3.918 Billion 130,600 Tech +18 days of terms I have a little add-on to these. I did the numbers real quick. So people will know, i just want to show it. So assumeing that only 60 NPO nations had to aid out as much as they could for reps before there terms was up. Depending on the length of the terms, we will assume they have 90 days for now, and what wonders the nations have, we will assume they all have the DRA because there the top nations, you should get a number around this (also note tech and money would be sent both at the same time): Max Aid That Can Be Given (see above) 9.720 Billion 162,000 Tech Comments: Perma-Ban from #nsa for asking for a link to NPO's history... i feel so loved... the favor is returned [Disclaimer: Now this topic isn't a debate about those terms, as the title says, I made this to inform everyone what those terms would be, if added up. I am simply informing you what they are, so please don't write mis-informing reports. I am not here to debate how good/bad/ok/not-ok the terms are. I am just simply writing what they would be. So please don't throw tons of flames out there. Pwease ]

New Pacific Order Reps Race Day 8 Old Total 1042 Nation Violations 3.126 Billion 104,200 Tech +14 days of terms Today's Add-on's 133 Nations Violated 399 Million 13,300 Tech + 2 days of terms Total so Far 1175 Nation Violations 3.525 Billion 117,500 Tech +16 days of terms Comments: Mmm... i have even got 4 posts from Moo-Cows... i guess this means my thread has reached its peak of preformance. [Disclaimer: Now this topic isn't a debate about those terms, as the title says, I made this to inform everyone what those terms would be, if added up. I am simply informing you what they are, so please don't write mis-informing reports. I am not here to debate how good/bad/ok/not-ok the terms are. I am just simply writing what they would be. So please don't throw tons of flames out there. Pwease ]

i am happy, congratz NV and SSX

New Pacific Order Reps Race Day 7 Old Total 910 Nation Violations 2.730 Billion 91,000 Tech +12 days of terms Today's Add-on's 132 Nations Violated 396 Million 13,200 Tech + 2 days of terms Total so Far 1042 Nation Violations 3.126 Billion 104,200 Tech +14 days of terms Comments: Nothing big, we broke 100k in tech and 3 billion in cash today. Also if anyone has even been looking at my posts... after the second report NPO nations in PM above 5k ns have droped. It was up to a max of 158 now it is 132. Yes i have double checked to be sure! See ya next post! [Disclaimer: Now this topic isn't a debate about those terms, as the title says, I made this to inform everyone what those terms would be, if added up. I am simply informing you what they are, so please don't write mis-informing reports. I am not here to debate how good/bad/ok/not-ok the terms are. I am just simply writing what they would be. So please don't throw tons of flames out there. Pwease ]

That was many months ago, but yes i was at one time in the NPO, for a short time. I hardly see the point why that matters. I joined the NPO to walk a mile in the other sides shoes. That is why i do not hold much anti-NPO as i use to. The style that NPO plays the game and the way i do are very much a like, but so very diffrent. I was in for a short time and left. I owe much of my change as IC to the NPO and for that they have my respect. But only for that... what they have done and what they are doing is illogical. My home has always been and will always be Nueva Vida.

Well I first would like to say that is nice to see a lot of people… (not naming any names but I can think of one that starts with a V) skating around questions and responses that he/she cannot answer, has no answer for, or has been proven wrong and won’t admit it and only attacking ones that they think they can disprove or make others look bad on, or some twisted sense that they can win some argument which is being poorly done. Also I guess no one actually looks at my comments anymore, so I have to actually make another post for people to read what I think. But really in all reality, remaining neutral in this thread and my POV, I do have to point out this is the biggest terms ever given. But… NPO has clearly not put forth an effort in actually getting these questions they have asked to the right people. I am sorry but even I know that you either get asked to surrender or you ask about surrendering. Not to do so and then whine that you have not been approached is just stupid. Peace is not one way… as I have stated before. If the Karma party did not approach NPO with peace, then it is not their fault you don’t have peace. You have fingers… you can type /j #whatever… you can click query… you can ask… but not doing so then turning around and crying out on public forums how Karma is just being mean. @_@ It is mind boggling. From me trying to be Neutral, I would have to agree that Karma is a very complex ever changing group, they have no defined way of going about their goals, and some goals are not even clear or are changing. But then there is a point of trying to use that and say there a wild pack of dogs who want to EZI or PZI us all. If you have not put forth and effort shut up… you know that public forums is not the place to talk about peace terms… if someone did that to you before you were being rolled, you would throw a hissy about it. If you want to cry about some your “Claim” that all karma alliances want to do is EZI or PZI you… doing it somewhere else. What you have done in the past has not given you the right to do so. Oh and before anyone of you reply something like “Well a lot of Karma alliances are the ones who were doing the wrongs in the past.” Maybe its atonement or a change of heart, or something, maybe they just saw that this was the crushing wave and moved out of the way of it and joined it. But whatever it is, there not on your side, so stop bawwing about it. Oh and just in case the slight possibility that they just jumped sides because they know the crushing blow was coming… how does it feel, now that some have done it to you? Now some may state that is very Neutral of me… Logic is Neutral and anyone who uses it and keeps in touch with what is going on, will know what I speak of.

New Pacific Order Reps Race Day 6 Old Total 774 Nation Violations 2.322 Billion 77,400 Tech +10 days of terms Today's Add-on's 136 Nations Violated 408 Million 13,600 Tech + 2 days of terms Total so Far 910 Nation Violations 2.730 Billion 91,000 Tech +12 days of terms Comments: I have not had a chance to read any comments after the Day 5 post. But anyway, thanks everybody we broke 1k in posts... even if most of it is flames... pretty much. Broke 1,000 posts! Also before you ask, yes i did triple check the numbers, and yes there is a good drop in PM above 5k ns. Also, i would like to note that if banks "leave" NPO, then there is no way i can track them. And also if they "leave" NPO, they don't actually count on the terms. So if all NPO bank Nations "leave" NPO for the rest of the war, there terms won't go up, because nothing in the terms says anything about banks leaving NPO. If they just leave the AA, they don't count. Or if they surrender, there is nothing that says he terms will go up or they will get attacked or they will have to come out of PM, IIRC. [Disclaimer: Now this topic isn't a debate about those terms, as the title says, I made this to inform everyone what those terms would be, if added up. I am simply informing you what they are, so please don't write mis-informing reports. I am not here to debate how good/bad/ok/not-ok the terms are. I am just simply writing what they would be. So please don't throw tons of flames out there. Pwease ]

I happy to serve, good luck to all of NV and her bright future.

New Pacific Order Reps Race Day 5 Old Total 622 Nation Violations 1.866 Billion 62,200Tech +8 days of terms Today's Add-on's 152 Nations Violated 456 Million 15,200 Tech + 2 days of terms Total so Far 774 Nation Violations 2.322 Billion 77,400 Tech +10 days of terms Comments: I had a few people ask me to only update on the OP, but I find that for one, my post will get really long. Two, its just as good to get a direct post link on the OP to link to the new day. Three, people will not know when I update and so-on. So I am just going to stick with making a new post and updating the OP with a direct link, since its much easier to me that way. And its like the Sanction Race, which is the way I wanted it. Also Total Reaches over 2 Billion! Also the number of nations and fines drop just a little today. That is why it was takeing so long, cuz i double checked the numbers. [Disclaimer: Now this topic isn't a debate about those terms, as the title says, I made this to inform everyone what those terms would be, if added up. I am simply informing you what they are, so please don't write mis-informing reports. I am not here to debate how good/bad/ok/not-ok the terms are. I am just simply writing what they would be. So please don't throw tons of flames out there. Pwease ]

New Pacific Order Reps Race Day 4 Old Total 464 Nation Violations 1.392 Billion 46,400 Tech +6 days of terms Today's Add-on's 158 Nations Violated 474 million 15,800 tech + 2 days of terms Total so Far 622 Nation Violations 1.866 Billion 62,200 Tech +8 days of terms Comments: It seems I have lost a lot of friends over this text. But If your friends cannot accept you speak your mind, then are they really your friends? Also soon, i will be adding a place on the first page that will link directly to the each day's post. Because this thread as become a mess. [Disclaimer: Now this topic isn't a debate about those terms, as the title says, I made this to inform everyone what those terms would be, if added up. I am simply informing you what they are, so please don't write mis-informing reports. I am not here to debate how good/bad/ok/not-ok the terms are. I am just simply writing what they would be. So please don't throw tons of flames out there. Pwease ]

KingEsus, I assume there was an announcement that you could speak here or you are a high ranking gov official. Other wise, doesn’t this mean you are ignoring your radio silence order? Evidence: here, and here, and there, don’t forget about here, and also there, and lastly this one. Don't care for the rules much, eh? Also are you only saying this is bull because you yourself are one of the ones above 5k NS and in peace mode? You yourself, unless the NPO has given you the right to speak on this thread which I doubt, are disgracing your leaders. Are you trying to prove to the world that your leadership has no control over its members? That is not the pacifican way i remember... unless of course you are not a true pacifican?

woops. Don't know how i didn't see that. My bad, 400 is actually 450. You can check the math yourself. I just somehow put 0 instead of 5. Dang keypad. Anyway, i am fixing it now.

New Pacific Order Reps Race Day 3 Old Total 307 Nation Violations 921 Million 30,700 Tech +4 days of terms Today's Add-on's 157 Nation Violations 471 Million 15,700 Tech + 2 days of terms Total so Far 464 Nation Violations 1.392 Billion 46,400 Tech +6 days of terms Comments: I Have included the full logs, for anyone who has not read them yet: ---- I am sticking to the exact words of the logs, so at 11:38 server time each day I go count real-time display of all nations above 5k ns. The reason you see 307 violations is that I did not post this target till the second day of violations, so the day before there were 150 violations. Day 2 there was 157 so 150 plus 157 = 307. ---- Clear up some mis-informed thoughts, according to the logs, these are not the terms being offered. This penalty is add-on to any terms given. So for example if they agree to 1 billion in reps, this amount will be added on top of that amount. Most people know this, i just want to state this aloud so everyone knows this. ---- Also, while I will take no side in this argument, I will point out that my observation seems to be that NPO will pay a fee for keeping there only means of rebuilding quickly, safe from harm (banks), and they will pay a fee for making sure that there nations do not drop any faster in NS, Infra, so on... At some point in a war in CN you can only pound a enemy alliance nations down in the ground so far. After that, it becomes a moot point of blowing up some tech and keeping those said nations out of peace mode so they can't escape and possibly start rebuilding. ---- Also to Schatt... KingSrgt is correct. Also I am not trying to get the total number of exact nations the violated. If I wanted to show exact nation violations I would have either created a list or i would have simply stated "Exact nations that violated." Your missing the point, I kept a number of how many nations were in violation of such a fine for a just in case purpose. Its like I am listing the number of tickets given. It doesn’t matter if jim bob gets 17 tickets, the total number of tickets won't go up only 1, it will go up 17 times. This just in case method is if there is any change to the terms. Such as if Karma comes a long and says: "We will increase the number of reps from 100 tech to 125 tech for all nations that violated since the first fine." It will be easy for me to just plug in the numbers and get a instant answer then try and take the numbers from totals and rework them based on percentages. Or going about the tickets method in a little more in depth. Look at it as if Karma is writing each nation a ticket. "Total Nation Violations" is the total of tickets over time. If Karma writes 10 tickets a day, for a week. Even if the same nations are getting tickets, at the end of the week there is still a total of 70 tickets. So "Total Nation Violations" means how many Violations in total there are, not the total number of specific nations who violated. If I wanted to list the number of specific nations who violated it I would have called it "Total Nations Violated" see the deference in words? For someone who plays a awful lot on words, I didn't think this would fool someone like you. But hey, can't be right 100% of the time. ---- Vladimir, your words are always food for thought here. I enjoy your works, but I have to be fair on this. NPO can refuse these terms, but that does not mean there off the table. I have tried refraining from bringing this point up, as I still have love for old friends of mine back in my Pacifican days, but just because the Order does not want something, does not mean it will not get it. So you can out right refuse these terms... but that doesn't exactly mean that Karma will say "Oh okay that’s fine... we understand we will take them off the table right now." No... It means that until both parties agree to take them off the table, there still on the table and if they stay on the table and become your only option of leaving is to accept these terms, then War will continue till you do. Remember its not what the order wants anymore, those days are over. Its what everyone wants now. ---- Now if anyone had some comments towards me past page 11, I didn't get to them during this issue... why? Well, I got on pretty late so I couldn't read all 20 pages before it was time to update. Don't worry, I will try to get to them next issue See you next issue <3 P.S.: >_> you flamed [Disclaimer: Now this topic isn't a debate about those terms, as the title says, I made this to inform everyone what those terms would be, if added up. I am simply informing you what they are, so please don't write mis-informing reports. I am not here to debate how good/bad/ok/not-ok the terms are. I am just simply writing what they would be. So please don't throw tons of flames out there. Pwease ]

I take the time at 11:38 server time, to hand count all nations above 5k ns who are in peace mode under the NPO AA. I have devised an easy to view system. I will personally come on here and update this list, if I can't I will post who will, so that way maybe we can keep down on the dis-informing reports if we get any. (I am not a mod so I cannot ban anyone from posting anything, but I am just simply telling you if you want to view a surefire correct report, you can read mine) I have already done Day 1 for everyone on IRC to get this started, I will now post Day 2 and the totals. Please enjoy! (More info in comments) New Pacific Order Reps Race Day 2 Old Total 150 Nation Violations 450 Million 15,000 Tech +2 days of terms Today's Add-on's 157 Nations Violated 471 million 15,700 tech + 2 days of terms Total so Far 307 Nation Violations 921 million 30,700 tech +4 days of terms Comments: Hello Everyone, (Note to Mod: I am not sure if I put this in the right place), most of you do not know me. I tend to keep a low profile. I read the forums a lot, but I don't post often. I tend to stick with IRC channels. The Right People know where I stand, and which side I am on, and what my feelings are. So lets get down to what this topic is about. The dreaded threatening add-on to whatever terms that Karma gives NPO. As stated here: I will keep you posted, every day I will count the nations. Show you what the add-on for that day will be under "Today's Add-on" and the current total from all the add-ons together under "Total so Far." [Disclaimer: Now this topic isn't a debate about those terms, as the title says, I made this to inform everyone what those terms would be, if added up. I am simply informing you what they are, so please don't write mis-informing reports. I am not here to debate how good/bad/ok/not-ok the terms are. I am just simply writing what they would be. So please don't throw tons of flames out there. Pwease ] Report Index Day 3's Report Day 4's Report Day 5's Report Day 6's Report Day 7's Report Day 8's Report Day 9's Report Day 10's Report Day 11's Report Day 12's Report Day 13's Report Edit: Each Edit will be to add a direct link to each day's report.

I should create a script to keep count of how high the reps and days of peace terms, added on, will be. It should be intresting, i do not say i support anyone, but i still think it will be intresting none the less.

o/ Invicta

I just wanted to point out, that the ranges have changed, you may want to change that part of the post. >_> just trying to help

Thank you all NV members and allies of NV, this was a well worth fought.

ah welcome to the war

This is the frist step. A dawn of a new tommarow. Good luck... and may Red be free once again.