Viluin

[quote name='AlmightyGrub' timestamp='1341674575' post='3005948'] Seeing how our wars expire at update I fail to see the rush tbh. I do note that being the complete !@#$ you are you attacked all of whilst agreeing to the terms. Forgive me if I don't rush to assist you escape back to peace mode pixel hugger. Your smug messages don't fuel my desire to be even marginally concerned by your plight, quite the opposite. [/quote] The terms were agreed upon after I finished all of my attacks. I logged in to find an unattractive offer from CB Quinn in my inbox, then I attacked and made a counter offer. A few messages later we came to an agreement. I will only be around for 6 more hours, so we don't have until update. [quote name='AlmightyGrub' timestamp='1341674821' post='3005950'] You can peace simultaneously at our convenience not yours. You attacked us, you do not get to call the shots pal. I am amused that you expect me to bow to your demands because it suits your schedule better. I knew you didn't have the fight in you to make the commitment to fight properly. You are just another wannabe. Also, for future reference, being a !@$%whomper with your communications with me will only decrease my interest in your plight. Reap what you sow? [/quote] Lol, there is no peace deal if I don't get to peace out all of the wars simultaneously. If you want to be a prick about this then go ahead, I will gladly keep fighting. You're arguing about something that makes absolutely no difference to you.

[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1341673952' post='3005942'] Since Grub is your earliest current war against you, if the other two send peace offers (or just the one who declared a day after Grub) you could just not attack them and wait to accept until your war with Grub expires. Then once it expires, accept peace with the other guy. So if its just Grub being stubborn, you could possibly work around him if the others are more cooperative in ending hostilities. [/quote] None of them have sent peace offers yet, in fact Greco even attacked me after the peace deal despite being informed of it. I retaliated but my nukes missed. I won't be online this update, so I can't peace out with Greco right after update to go to peace mode.

[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1341673249' post='3005931'] How many alliances are you at war with? If NpO just wants to let current wars expire, but aren't going to declare any new ones, you could just nuke him for the duration of your current in-game war rather than voiding the whole agreement. I'm guessing what you don't want them to do here is keep you staggered, so another alliance can fill up your defensive slots? [/quote] I'm at war with two or more other alliances via my AA, and god knows how many others want a stab at me. I need to go to peace mode to buy new nukes. I've been staggered, so if they want to let the wars expire I may get attacked by someone else, thus making the whole peace deal pointless. That's why I asked for peace offers to be sent to me.

AlmightyGrub just confirmed (in-game) that he's not sending a peace offer. What a poor show for a former emperor. I specifically asked for peace offers to be sent to my nation so that all wars can be peaced out simultaneously. I have other enemies, and a peace deal is pointless if others can simply declare on me tomorrow. If that happens then I will consider my peace agreement with the NpO to be null and void, sorry.

Still waiting for peace offers as part of our agreement. For some reason my NpO opponents are hesitant to adhere to it, all of them have logged in but none of them have sent a peace offer.

The New Polar Order and I have finally found a solution. I hereby promise not to attack the NpO or any alliance that has a mutual defense clause with the NpO in the future. Let there be peace!

[quote name='Dochartaigh' timestamp='1341620966' post='3005310'] lawlz. Keep running your mouth and Polaris may find several people more than willing to ghost their alliance for a shot at you. [/quote] Then those people would be incredibly dumb, and I would come pay their alliances a visit in the future when Polaris can't contain me anymore. [quote name='zoskia' timestamp='1341630959' post='3005421'] Oh... if you don't like how Polaris fights with you, then simply attack another Alliance... oh wait... you can't. Sorry, pal... it's 100% up to us who you will be fighting with... we own your nation, we declare your wars. ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US. Running out of nations??? LOL... I will be seeing you in the next round. Also, we love all your tech... 70% of your NS is just tech... and we LOVE it that way. [/quote] You love having nothing of mine to destroy while I nuke you for massive damage?

[quote name='AlmightyGrub' timestamp='1341612644' post='3005121']If we extended peace to you what stops anyone with a little cash on hand deciding to attack an alliance for a few weeks to amuse himself at our expense? [/quote] One thing is for sure, [i]you[/i] certainly won't stop them, not with your military performance. It's okay, you literally can't keep fighting me forever because you'll run out of suitable fighters pretty soon. I expect you to stop declaring new wars before the end of the summer.

[quote name='the rebel' timestamp='1341607022' post='3005049'] You obviously missed most of the rogues posts in this thread. [/quote] And you obviously missed the point of this thread.

Nice, the old "surrender and we will put you on a ZI list we'll never be able to enforce" joke.

[quote name='AlmightyGrub' timestamp='1341571443' post='3004733'] I get it just fine. We do not give a fat rat's arse about our stats, no one is going to attack us then dictate terms in this situation. There doesn't need to be a strategy, just pure destruction. It doesn't matter if what we are doing is efficient, we have long ago discarded any notion of having large nations. You should know better to be quite honest. I will keep attacking this nation every single time it is possible to do so... and I do not care one iota what it costs me personally... my pixels are meaningless to me and have been for approximately 6 years. [/quote] So your pixels are meaningless, but your browser-game-pride means everything? I think you're banking on me deleting in a few weeks, there's just no way anyone could genuinely be this dumb. Too bad you're wrong.

By the way, Grub, the reason you still have a navy is because Greco keeps spending a fortune on new aircraft carriers every day, and it's just too tempting not to destroy them because his warchest sucks. Also, I just dished out another 1750(!) infra damage in one volley of attacks. GG. EDIT: BEHOLD THE MIGHT OF POLARIS! [quote]Message: Your nation has been attacked with a cruise missile by greco. You lost 5 defending tanks, 2.00 technology, and 0.45 infrastructure.[/quote]

[quote name='greco' timestamp='1341533441' post='3004353'] Only thing your forgetting is in a couple of days I will not be at war I will walk away for the next round of wars against your nation I will sit back have a drink and wait until the next time I declare on you .. Now in that time u will have 3 more fresh Polars on your nation chipping away bringing u down even lower ( where u say ur victory is lol) Your tech advantage won't be so great your money will not mean that much and Polaris will continue to treat u like the desperate girl that hangs around everyone getting a turn until we are bored with you [/quote] Haha. My nation has nothing to lose. There is no more land to destroy, no infra worth destroying and destroying tech only helps me. You call it a "tech advantage" but it's actually a disadvantage because it inflates my NS. Meanwhile the 3 Polars you send after me next round are gonna lose a bunch of expensive things, all so they can chip away at my... tech. Which I want chipped away.

[quote name='greco' timestamp='1341532831' post='3004343'] Bud whether u mind LOSING or not your still losing Only thing your saying is I don't care if I lost it I wanted to lose it Come on now do u hear yourself .. Your nation by FAR. Was superior to mine thats no secret but bud this little nation is taking part in you LOSING your stuff You will not be the superior nation for long Hence I'm WINNING. [/quote] You're losing 4x faster than I am. I guess that means I'm winning 4x as much then? So even at the act of winning you are not winning, because I win more.

[quote name='greco' timestamp='1341532104' post='3004325'] That's funny your. Trying to dismiss my efforts o you hurt my feelings Let's see what did I do today O yeah I won another 2 ground attacks Got 2 CMs off I defended1attack from you I would say that's a pretty good day being 20ns lower then you and 1/5 ur tech[/quote] You won two ground attacks, but that one ground attack I won hurt more. And no, considering you are fighting 3vs1 this wasn't a "pretty good day", this is how every day should be for you plus air raids. But it's not. [quote] Your down to less then 3k infa Your in anarchy U have 2 nukes Your down 35k NS Down about 1000 infa And less 2 billion dollars Yeah you definitely look unbeatable [/quote] - My infra holds no value at all. It will be destroyed anyway. - Me being in anarchy is irrelevant, since you're declaring wars on me I will damage you anyway. - My 2 nukes are better than your daily nuke. - I'm down 35k ns, which is great, the more NS I lose the more you are [b]helping [/b]me. - Money is irrelevant because I will reach a point where my warchest stops decreasing anyway. Most of the 2 billion I lost also isn't from war costs. Even at my current ridiculous spending rate I can fight for months. Still not winning..

[quote name='greco' timestamp='1341531648' post='3004312'] Oh your mistaken I love having you as a problem and if I can prevent u from bothering some poor aa then so be it And bud I'm winning already [/quote] Lol, how are you winning? You've done such a tiny amount of damage to me you might as well not have declared at all, you're a waste of a warslot. I've CMed you for the same damage you did to me.

[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1341530903' post='3004294'] why would they let you off the hook so you can just rogue them or their allies with built up nukes and the ability to offensively declare war? they're choosing to continue the path you chose to go down, why are you putting the blame on them when you were the one who began down the road, they're simply continuing down it. [/quote] I'm perfectly fine with the situation as is, I'm not blaming them for anything. No matter what happens the end result will be the same, I will become unbeatable. They should let me go because they can't win, they can only lose. At least if they let me go I'll be someone else's problem. There are some micro alliances that declared on my friends who are in desperate need of punishment, I'm not necessarily continuing rogue activities.

[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1341530324' post='3004281'] who declared on who here exactly? did Polaris ask you to go rogue on them, or did you offensively attack them? you punched someone in the face, they're punching you back, and you expect them to stop because you dont want to get punched anymore, maybe you should have thought about that before you threw the first punch? [/quote] You misunderstand the situation. The only reason I want peace with NpO is so I can rebuild my military and prepare for the next war with someone else. If they insist on [b]keeping[/b] me at war then I will be proud to drive them to deletion, it'll be their own fault.

[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1341530114' post='3004276'] $%&@ YEAH! I'M HELPING KILL THE GAME, IT'S MY FAVORITE ACTIVITY! do you really feel proud about that? [/quote] If my enemies insist on keeping me at war, then yes.

[quote name='greco' timestamp='1341528809' post='3004260'] You really are delusional And if that is your victory you will have it you will be a peeon fighting little nations Never amounting to anything Sounds like a great victory Hay bud u also forgot 1 thing the 10 mill plus your losing in the spy attacks [/quote] If the nations are becoming too little, I can just increase my NS a bit and grab one poor Polar sod at a time by the heels and drag him down into a world of hurt. Crawling right back up to your top tier one nation at a time. You're only winning around 40% of your spy ops. And when you're spying my money away, you can't spy my nukes away (which I will soon have) so that's fine.

[quote name='Neo Uruk' timestamp='1341524244' post='3004147'] You should look up how the game mechanics work. If anything, he'll be stuck running nations off the Polaris AA. [/quote] That's my favorite activity. I personally made 5 nations quit the game because they were ZI'd and bill locked last time I was in that position. I was winning pretty much everything even in 6vs1 situations. It seems NpO leaders have no idea what they're getting themselves into. You'd be surprised how easily low-tier people are persuaded when you tell them the nuking will stop if they leave their AA. I've done it before and it is the ultimate victory for a rogue, very satisfying. That's what I do it for.

[quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1341518353' post='3004086'] You'll run out of NS long before Polar does. [/quote] I won't, there's a point where my NS will even out because they can't destroy more land/tech than I gain through my conquests. It's roughly the same point at which my warchest stops decreasing. Because of the way the game works, I am immortal. I've been in that position before and it's quite nice, I'm actually annoyed that they are destroying my nation so slowly because war at this level is expensive. [quote name='AlmightyGrub' timestamp='1341521945' post='3004113'] At the end of this week I will return to the same infra and tech levels as I started, if I so choose. So far I have spent all of $200M on this war which is a small investment, I will back collect about that when I exit the war.[/quote] ...and you'll still be down $200 million because of the war. Which is actually quite a lot, that's almost as much as I've spent so far this round and I'm in a far worse position. I'm actually pretty happy about costing you $200 million, plus rebuilding costs. [quote] So my losses will be actually zero. [/quote] No they're not, if you hadn't fought this war you'd be up $500 million or more. [quote] Someone else will take over for a week and then I will roll back in, his NS wont drop that far being so tech heavy, and I will keep chipping away for another week. I will of course ignore the war whilst I am not fighting it, he will have to be logging in constantly to cover all the permutations of time zones and update. I know who will get bored with it first.[/quote] False. I can drop my NS to under 30k within two weeks. You'll have to sell down to declare on me, which would be hilarious. [quote] Hi Viluin. You have smack talked all week about your navy, it has achieved almost nothing, you have only managed to nuke me once,[/quote] Bragging about blocking nukes you shouldn't have. Yeah that's really impressive. [quote]I have nuked you every day. Even if your nuke does more damage, mine adds up to a hell of a lot more over time. I will always have at least 20, you will never get more than a handful at one time and certainly not enough to consistently nuke anyone.[/quote] Even with my handicap, my [i]expected [/i] nuclear damage per day is around 400 infra, which is a lot more than your daily nuke. So you're not winning on that front even though I have no nuclear stockpile. You're not winning on any front. [quote] You will collect in nuclear anarchy for the rest of your existence, at a greatly reduced infra level and slowly but surely all your cycling and manipulation that made your nation so beloved by you will amount to nothing but some random damages that were repaired fairly quickly.[/quote] I'm pretty sure I'll get out of anarchy eventually. It has happened before and it will happen again. I've been in this exact position before with my nation, I know what's gonna happen when I lose NS and it's not pretty for you. It's inevitable that I reach peace mode, either because you stop attacking me or because of some opportunists who would like a stab at my warslots and will let me peace out under threat of nuclear retaliation. When I rebuild my stockpile of nukes I will be unstoppable for your low level nations. [quote] I told Viluin early on that he was overestimating his position, he seemed to think I was overestimating mine. Somehow I don't think I am. Big warchests are fun, but being in his position has a very limited life. He can talk a good game but fails to deliver really. [/quote] Look, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. I will [i]never[/i] run out of money. With my NS dropping you simply can't fight me effectively for long, eventually I will start to gain money as my war costs are cheap and I loot millions from your unprepared nations. You are right that my warchest is decreasing rapidly at the moment, but I could easily cut my spending by 80% and still dish out more damage than you so don't let it fool you.

Some numbers: Greco: Damage taken (from him) 235 infra, damage dealt (to him) 1180 infra Zoskia: Damage taken: 385 infra (including one nuke!), damage dealt 940 infra Grub: Damage taken: 1200 damage dealt: 1200 [b]Total damage taken: 1820, total damage dealt: 3320.[/b] [b]Total nuke damage taken: 1260/1820 (looool), total nuke damage dealt: 1300/3320[/b] Please tell me again how and what you're winning here. You've been nuking me every day, I've only managed to get 3 nukes off due to your lucky SDIs, and still I'm dishing out far more hurt than I'm receiving. Most of your damage comes from nuclear attacks, you're still performing very poorly in other departments. You are starting to win more ground attacks due to your infra advantage, but my attacks hurt twice as much as yours so you're still way behind, and chances are you always will be. You've done less than 600 conventional damage to me, I've done over 2000 conventional damage to you, and we both get the same amount of attacks per day. Not to mention your infra costs 10 times as much as mine.

[quote name='Zombie Glaucon' timestamp='1341448894' post='3003678'] Nope. I know you don't have the mustard to stick with this. [/quote] What makes you think that?

[quote name='mompson' timestamp='1341440507' post='3003614'] Annoying whiny rouge says "Polar Sucks" in 100 different ways. Nothing else to see. [/quote] *Rogue. 101.