Merovingian

[quote name='grandmonarch' timestamp='1323843384' post='2877497'] OP is a platypus alliance, not a turtling alliance, clearly you are confused. [/quote] [url="http://tournament.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=1000204"]Wrong. RE is the platypus alliance[/url]

So this is separate from the RE one?

Good luck guys

[quote name='paul711' timestamp='1323489248' post='2871654'] I agree with Kong 100% [/quote] I agree with paul agreeing with kong 100%

[quote name='ADude' timestamp='1323473415' post='2871324'] This is me hoping that is you in your avatar... Shhhh now.. Don't spoil this for me [/quote] Confusion's the girl in his avatar too

Shark Week 6 nations 19,019 total NS 0 nukes WAPA 21 nations 61,828 total NS 2 nukes Looks like a pretty big updeclare

[quote name='Mikeyrox' timestamp='1323317054' post='2868234'] I am not quite sure I follow what you are suggesting - is this some sort of battle royale to see who is the best alliance in TE? So people form into 2 main sides. They fight. The side then wins, is then divided into 2 blocs, and then they fight. The side that wins is divided again, so on and so forth until only one alliance remains? If that is what you are getting at I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to it, or to some other form of a tournament between all the alliances. [/quote] His idea might be a good one, but it's realistically unfeasible because the alliances in TE would never agree enough to ever do such a thing.

Don't be rude guys, he's just making a suggestion. However, due to the current political state of TE what you have proposed is absolutely impossible... too many people focus on their own interests, and besides, TE already has blocs of alliances. It's much more common that they fight in smaller groups.

[quote name='kongland' timestamp='1323262682' post='2867253'] TE is a supplement, not a replacement of RL. Let's have holidays like the rest of humanity. [/quote] I am of the same opinion as kong

[quote name='King James XVIII' timestamp='1316149026' post='2801357'] TPC 35 Total Nations 169,979 Total Strength 4,857 ANS 1 Nuke [/quote] TPC has... 1 nuke?

Good luck to both sides

[quote name='Awesome Dog' timestamp='1316123583' post='2801078'] lol @ two more pages of garbage I'm not reading. [/quote] Or perhaps you should actually read it and see that there's no longer any bickering. Be positive

[quote name='paul711' timestamp='1316092033' post='2800828'] This war got way to personnel and the vicious personnel attacks are uncalled for. I would like to apologize to confusion, stevie, and Mervingian for my actions. I would also like tp apologize to therm for being rude in our public channel ladt night when all he was trying to do was eliminate the personnel attacks. Lastly I would like to apologize to anon membership for saying you deserved to burn. This is just a game and it is often to easy to forget that their is a real person on the other side of those pixels. I know I did and I apologize *offers hand to shake* [/quote] I made a resolution yesterday to cease posting here, but I think this warrants an exception. I appreciate and accept your apology, and while I posted I tried to keep it as impersonal as possible and only focus on the argument. If I did offend anyone, I am sorry. I hope that at some point we can move past simply taking revenge for something that happened online - as you put it well, no matter how cliche, it's just a game. *shakes hand*

[quote name='Thomasj_tx' timestamp='1316040705' post='2800585'] Even your supposed explanation only accounts for 2 of them. And for those two, it is obvious that the nations were created solely that purpose, to idle at 3NS and to be harvested if and when needed. [/quote] I don't know whether that's the case or not, but either way that's a legitimate form of war. What do you expect, no counter-attacks at all? We're already so far behind OP and LE in nukes, ANS, total NS, and every other stat that it doesn't even change much. Those guys are trying their best.

[quote name='Thomasj_tx' timestamp='1316036708' post='2800552'] That's not correct because they were not flying the Anon AA at time of the war. Look at their AA seniority date. They were hidden nations that were intentionally created to wait in the wings and called in if needed. I'm not saying if that is right or wrong, good or bad. Everyone playing the game can make their on call on that. But at least be honest as to what they are. [/quote] Well, I can say for myself that I had no idea of their existence until the day they attacked. I'm not Anon gov, yknow

[quote name='Mark8240' timestamp='1316032851' post='2800521'] If they are part of your alliance then they arnt rouges. But if they are part of your alliance and not on your AA then your alliance stats are skewed and your much stronger than you appear. Which in this game is a cheep trick. [/quote] They were those "3 NS nations" that everyone was talking about. Most of them were in the alliance I believe.

[quote name='Thomasj_tx' timestamp='1316031753' post='2800518'] What does? [/quote] Somebody who is not part of an alliance in a war but attacks other nations for their own purposes, usually to take down specific people.

[quote name='Thomasj_tx' timestamp='1316030050' post='2800506'] So me once wherer I did that. [/quote] [quote]And you admit that some of them are rogues. We are making progress. Now, let's see if we can make some more progress. Which are the rouges?[/quote] I can't prove to you they aren't all what you define as "rogues". But boosting after the war and buying MPs doesn't count as a rogue to me.

[quote name='Thomasj_tx' timestamp='1316020744' post='2800436'] Let's see.... [url="http://tournament.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=1001108"]This guy[/url] created his nation 28 hours after the war began and attack OP's bottom 3 nations, all much smaller and all had already eaten 2 nukes each. [url="http://tournament.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=1000622"]This guy[/url] created his nation 10 days ago, was in Anon when the war started but was at 3 NS. He then switched his AA to None, built up, came back to Anon and attacked 2 OP nations. [url="http://tournament.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=1000857"]This guy[/url] created his nation 7 days ago and at the time of the DoW was also in Anon and at 3 NS. He too switched his AA to None, built up and came back to Anon, obviously did a donation, bought an MP and attacked 3 OP nations. [url="http://tournament.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=1000689"]This guy[/url] created his nation on the 4th, was None and at 3NS at theh time of the DoW. Then built up, joined Anon yesterday and attacked 3 OP nations. [url="http://tournament.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=1000485"]And this guy[/url] created his nation of the 4th, idled at 930 NS for 8 days, built up and attacked 3 OP nations. Looks like he was not able to change his AA to Anon because he is the owner of his one nation AA. Is [url="http://tournament.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=1000613"]this guy[/url] the next one to pull the same switch? 10 days old, None AA and at 3NS at the time of the DoW. Built up yestereday and is now [i]Pending[/i] Anon membership. So it looks like your claim doesn't hold much water. [/quote] They're not all rogues. You guys are complaining about something that occured [b]last round[/b]. Evidently you're just holding a grudge.

[quote name='paul711' timestamp='1316010714' post='2800367'] It would never have been a fair one on one fight witj confusion and company. The minute they started losing their hidden rogues would have came out, just like now. [/quote] What makes these "rougues? They're Anonymous members who didn't yet booster when you declared war, and decided to enter the fray to fight to try to even remotely even things up a bit. They're not multis, they're individual players.

[quote name='Thomasj_tx' timestamp='1315978420' post='2800229'] Come on Stevie. You are a good guy. You know better than that. [/quote] [quote name='Thomasj_tx' timestamp='1315978465' post='2800230'] You too, ADude. [/quote] Define "good guy"

[quote name='paul711' timestamp='1315972138' post='2800155'] Just saying things happen for a reason and this is one more in a long litany of reasons for why confusion is despised by many. Like a true child he is taking his bask and going home. [/quote] It took me a few tries to understand what the second statement in your sig meant It's phrased a bit confusingly (pun not intended lol) Edit: Btw paul, these "rogues" aren't multis. I see them online on IRC at the same time.

[quote name='paul711' timestamp='1315971518' post='2800147'] All this talk of unfairness is rediculous as confusion's rogues are starting to enter tne fray, as expected. Sometimes things are more complex than they appear. [/quote] His rogues aren't going to help the nations that have already been stomped

[quote name='jmborwell' timestamp='1315968896' post='2800124'] We dont attack him every chance, we would get bored it we did that [/quote]

[quote name='jmborwell' timestamp='1315968152' post='2800115'] It was to Confusion.. dont take everything as an assault on the argument, there is some subtle Ad hominem debates here as well (if you couldnt tell) I just hope you're not creating a stage for more of Confusions Jabbering and a justification for him to continue... It gets as old as fending off rogues secretly sent by another alliance. [/quote] Confusion may be a bit rash and childish sometimes, but stop picking on him every chance you get As far as debates are concerned, I'm actually a debater I know what you guys are talking about, just don't have the time nor the energy to put everything I want to say as thoroughly as I want to say it.