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After a long wait, the looks for the latest Saborian stealth airplane were made semi-public, though the stats are classified as of now.

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From what is known, its name will be SF Coyote II and it will act where the SF-2 Morgan cannot operate.

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After a long wait, the looks for the latest Saborian stealth airplane were made semi-public, though the stats are classified as of now.

StealthPlane.jpg

From what is known, its name will be SF Coyote II and it will act where the SF-2 Morgan cannot operate.

General characteristics

* Crew: 1 (pilot)

* Length: 22.0 m (72 ft 2 in)

* Wingspan: 14.2 m (46 ft 7 in)

* Height: 6.05 m (19 ft 10 in)

* Wing area: 78.8 m² (848 ft²)

* Empty weight: 18,500 kg (40,786 lb)

* Loaded weight: 26,000 kg (57,320 lb)

* Useful load: 7,500 kg (16,535 lb)

* Max takeoff weight: 37,000 kg (81,571 lb)

* Powerplant: 2× Bwaka AL-41F turbofan

o Dry thrust: 96.1 kN (9,800 kgf, 21,605 lbf) each

o Thrust with afterburner: 152 kN (15,500 kgf, 34,172 lbf) each

Performance

* Maximum speed: Mach 2+ at altitude (2450+ km/h, 1,500 mph)

* g-limits: 9 to 10 g)

* Cruise speed: 1,300 km/h (807.8 mph)

* Ferry range: 4,000 to 5,500 km (2,485 to 3,418 mi)

* Service ceiling 20,000 m (65,617 ft)

* Rate of climb: 350 m/s (68,898 ft/min)

* Wing loading: 470 kg/m² (96.3 lb/ft²)

* Thrust/weight: 0.84 (dry thrust)

* Minimum thrust/weight:

o With afterburner: 1.19

* Runway length requirement: 350 m (1,148 ft)

* Endurance: 3.3 hrs (198 mins)

Armament

* Guns: 2× 30 mm internal cannon

* Hardpoints: 7 Internal, 8 External Addons(Ruins Stealth)

Avionics

* Radar: N050(?)BRLS AESA/PESA Radar (Enhancement of IRBIS-E) on SU-35

o Frequency: 3 mm (0.118 in)

o Diameter: 0.7 m (2 ft 4 in)

o Targets: 32 tracked, 8 engaged

o Range: 400 km (248 mi)

+ EPR: 3 m² (32.3 ft²) at 160 km (99.4 mi)

+ RCS: 0.01 m² at 90 km (55 mi)

+ Azimuth: +/-70°, +90/-50°

o Power: 4,000 W

o Weight: 65 to 80 kg (143 to 176 lb)

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After a seemingly endless months of work, construction and training, the Saborian Navy, Airforce and Army were finally back at their full strength.

All ships were now equipped with anti-submarine measures, modern anti-ship missles, powerful AA weaponry and more. The Submarines had been equipped with newly developed supercav-torpedos, these new projectiles reaching up to 300 kilometers per hour. The heavier ships had, additionally to anti-ship missles, railguns, reaching well over 300 kilometers in range, while the missles had roughly 540 to 550 kilometers range and a ballistic path to ensure that even shooting them down would make them hit the target approximately. Numerous other additions or improvements had been made, not all of them obvious.

The airforce had been fully equipped with the SF-2 Morgan and the SF Coyote II as fighters, while the old prussian bomberdesigns were still being used.

For the military, few major advancements had been made, though it still is one of the most modern and powerful in the world.

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Two new planes have been unveiled.

First is the PZL-230 Skorpion, a new Close-air support attack aircraft.

Pzl-230f_skorpion_01.jpg

The other one seems old, but is a workhorse and capable of bombing any enemy to hell and back. The B52 Stratofortress bomber.

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**Classified**

PZL-230

* Wingspan - 10 m

* Length - 12.10 m

* Height - 4.20 m

* Maximum speed - ~1000 km/h (Mach 0.85),

* Service ceiling - 12 000 m

* Wing area - 25.40 m²

* Total weight - 11 000 kg (4000 kg of munitions)

* Rate of climb - 90 m/s

* Range: 300 km

* Runway needed: 300 m

B52 Stratofortress

General characteristics

* Crew: 5 (pilot, copilot, radar navigator (bombardier), navigator, and Electronic Warfare Officer)

* Length: 159 ft 4 in (48.5 m)

* Wingspan: 185 ft 0 in (56.4 m)

* Height: 40 ft 8 in (12.4 m)

* Wing area: 4,000 sq ft (370 m²)

* Airfoil: NACA 63A219.3 mod root, NACA 65A209.5 tip

* Empty weight: 185,000 lb (83,250 kg)

* Loaded weight: 265,000 lb (120,000 kg)

* Max takeoff weight: 488,000 lb (220,000 kg)

* Powerplant: 8× Pratt & Whitney TF33-P-3/103 turbofans, 17,000 lbf (76 kN) each

* * Fuel capacity: 47,975 U.S. gal (39,948 imp gal, 181,610 L)

* Zero-lift drag coefficient: 0.0119 (estimated)

* Drag area: 47.60 sq ft (4.42 m²)

* Aspect ratio: 8.56

Performance

* Maximum speed: 560 kt (650 mph, 1,000 km/h)

* Combat radius: 4,480 mi (3,890 NM, 7,210 km)

* Ferry range: 10,145 mi (8,764 nm, 16,232 km)

* Service ceiling 50,000 ft (15,000 m)

* Rate of climb: 6,270 ft/min. (31.85 m/s)

* Wing loading: 120 lb/sq ft (595 kg/m²)

* Thrust/weight: 0.31

* Lift-to-drag ratio: 21.5 (estimated)

Armament

* Guns: 1× 20 mm M61 Vulcan cannon in a remote controlled tail turret (optional)

* Bombs: Approximately 70,000 pounds (31,500 kg) mixed ordnance -- bombs, mines, missiles, in various configurations

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The SF-2 Morgan

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General characteristics

* Crew: One pilot

* Length: 22.183 m (72 ft 9 in)

* Wingspan: 14.7 m (48 ft 3 in)

* Height: 6.43 m (21 ft 1 in)

* Wing area: 62.0 m² (667 ft²)

* Empty weight: 18,500 kg (40,790 lb)

* Max takeoff weight: 35,000 kg (77,160 lb)

* Powerplant: 2× Lyulka AL-37FU turbofans, 145 kN (32,000 lbf) each

Performance

* Maximum speed: Mach 2.5 (2,500 km/h at high altitude) (1,550 mph)

* Range: 3,700 km (2,230 mi)

* Service ceiling 18,000 m (59,100 ft)

Armament

* 1× 30 mm GSh-30 cannon with 350 rounds

* 12× wing and fuselage stations for up to 8,200 kg (18,080 lb) of ordnance

The COFFIN System. Made possible by cameras mounted around the aircraft's $@pit and body, along with an array of screens, patterned in a 360-degree sphere within the pilot center. The pilot is also completely conscious and not connected to their aircraft. The $@pit's Front Panels somewhat reduce the pilots view.

While the planes we have from former Prussia, Nordland are quite good in stealth-missions and the like, their dogfighting-perfomance in the short war against Neo Japan proved that they were not fit for such warfare. As we had already suspected this, development of a modern air-superiority fighter. This research has culminated in the SF-2 Morgan, a plane that easily is on par with anything the world can throw at us.

We will, of course, keep half our squadrons as stealth planes from Greater Nordland, but the other half of our fighter-force will be replaced with the Morgan.

OOC: I love when people use mah Ideas, it gives Rep :awsome: anyways, I am working on an upgrade :P

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***Classified ***

Summary on the Test Run of the Land-Based Dennetsu Kagakuhou

Tests of the Land-Based Dennetsu Kagakuhou has been successful. A muzzle velocity of 2,500m/s has been achieved while firing a 500kg shell, resulting in a range of 500 km, with a CEP (Circular Error Probable) of 3 meters. The total force of the impact is over 2000 MJ, meaning that although suitable for land defense, there needs to be adjustments for use as a naval gun.

It is highly recommended that Saboria uses this system to conserve energy while obtaining a further range.

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Summary on the Test Run of the Land-Based Dennetsu Kagakuhou

Tests of the Land-Based Dennetsu Kagakuhou has been successful. A muzzle velocity of 2,500m/s has been achieved while firing a 500kg shell, resulting in a range of 500 km, with a CEP (Circular Error Probable) of 3 meters. The total force of the impact is over 2000 MJ, meaning that although suitable for land defense, there needs to be adjustments for use as a naval gun.

It is highly recommended that Saboria uses this system to conserve energy while obtaining a further range.

OOC: 2000MJ with a 500kg shell is a speed of 2828m/s, and I don't think that gun rounds get faster as they fly. Anyway thats over 7.5 times the speed of sound, and that makes this gun look less likely from the get go.

Thats the first bit of BS,

The second is that ETC is not going to give you a gun, which can for a projectile that is 27 times the weight of a normal tank round, the ability to fire at nearly twice the muzzle velocity and over 125 times the normal effective distance.

Compared to modern naval guns (such as the 16"/50cal) your gun fires a shell half the weight ten times the distance with a muzzle velocity about three times faster than a RL gun.

See why it looks like BS yet?

And the fact that ETC guns are only just getting to 17MJ and you claim 2000MJ, when the guns themselves are 2016 tech, and saboria is 2021 tech... You cannot get a 100x performance enhancement in 5 tech years.

You are making things up, and its getting ridiculous.

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OOC: It shows how you aren't reading, LVN.

OOC: Please PM me with any and all evidence (in english) you have to support your totally impossible statistics.

As far as I can tell, you pulled those numbers out of a hat, or maybe some other orifice.

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***Classified ***

Summary on the Test Run of the Land-Based Dennetsu Kagakuhou

Tests of the Land-Based Dennetsu Kagakuhou has been successful. A muzzle velocity of 2,500m/s has been achieved while firing a 500kg shell, resulting in a range of 500 km, with a CEP (Circular Error Probable) of 3 meters. The total force of the impact is over 2000 MJ, meaning that although suitable for land defense, there needs to be adjustments for use as a naval gun.

It is highly recommended that Saboria uses this system to conserve energy while obtaining a further range.

**Classified response to Kyokujitsu scientists**

We apologize for the delay in the answer, but other matters have prevented us from replying.

We will install several of these guns on Leopard 3A1 and Mammoth Mk.I tanks for testing purposes, emulating real combat situations. Though the performance will likely be less than your tests showed, this is expected and as long as this degradation stays within tolerance limits, we will likely install these guns on our tanks as prevailing standard, leading to the Leopard 3A2 and possibly the Mammoth Mk.II tanks.

Naval vessels are expected to stay armed with Railguns, as refitting them would be too expensive. Additionally, there is plenty of energy available on the big vessels, as powerful nuclear reactors can be installed with ease.

We thank you for your work and hope that it will continue to bring both of us great advanced.

-Ministries of Defense and Science

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Scrap all this. GM-ruling makes this post non-canon

*Classified*

One of the Carrier battlegroups heading into the pacific ocean was recalled - the formation of the Grand European Army was seen as too dangerous, should these chinese puppets be commanded to declare on Saboria for defending Camberlain. Thus, only a total of three CBGs would reach the Pacific, with the other three - technologically vastly superior to the GEA, luckily - staying in the atlantic ocean. The Canary Islands were being reinforced with 6 divisions and 200 tanks, making the total 10 divisions and 350 tanks.

Meanwhile, two CBGs and 15 divisions as well as 1,800 tanks were heading to Saboria's atlantic bases, to prepare themselves to reinforce NZ.

The rest of the army staid, for now, in Saboria Proper, but ready to join the fight in any of the theaters in reasonable time.

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The SkyCity was almost completed, with a mere 4% of it not having been finished. Finally, after a build-time of almost ten years, it was close to completion.

Some changes since the beginning had, however, happened. The SkyCity would no longer house native Saborians, but Saborians of Asian descent - who were, by now, officially citizens of Saboria, which by itself was by no means a secret and added a single percent to Saboria's population.

The SkyCity, having enough space for roughly nearly a million people - almost 250,000 more than originally planned - provided jobs for almost 700,000 people. In the first months, it would likely be 'underfilled', as only few of these immigrants initially qualified for living in the city, but that could, within the years, easily change. As long as they embraced the socialist and communist ideals of this nation, they would be welcomed - though no criminals were allowed, and a number of other regulations would prevent them from becoming real citizens after less than 6 years, unless the Chairman himself intervened, which was unlikely.

It was decided that these Asians would not only live there, in the SkyCity, but that they would govern it themselves - as Special Administrative Province of Saboria. This could, of course, offend some nations of the world, but the Chairman cared not about them. The relations with those that would be offended already were quite low, so it didn't matter much.

*Highly Classified*

Of course, the people who were officially asian, and would live in that city originated from Kyokujitsu Teikoku. Their socialist tendencies had eased it for them to adapt to how Saboria was run and by now, they were hardly different from other Saborians, save for their descent and the fact they looked more asian than the average Saborian.

OOC: This will be a lot like the SAPs of China - Hong Kong and Macau. Also, this will essentially be Sumer's new nation, though it may be somewhat too small to be on the world map. I'll just ask Sargun if it's possible to make it appear.

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*In the Chairman's office - highly classified*

"So many things...So many great accomplishments."

The Chairman was sorting through a number of reports.

>Agriculture Development Program

The ADP, a program to ensure that every Saborian got enough food. It was comparatively cheap and did its job quite well, enabling Saboria's population to grow more easily and allowing the country to support more people. It also created more jobs, obviously.

>Anti-Air Defense Network

A dense AA network had been established shortly after the nation's emergence from the revolution. As new technology became available, it had continuously been modernised to make sure even the best planes of the world would have immense problems getting into the country. Additionally, parts of it were incorporated in the SDI and vice versa.

>Central Intelligence Agency

The CIA was one of the more important agencies, gathering information of countries all over the world from news sources, dispatching spies into several nations that were seen as non-friendly and occasionally working in high secrecy together with the BNops to do some covert operations.

>Disaster Relief Agency

War means destruction and chaos. The DRA had been founded to provide areas where war had happened with some relief, though their work wasn't controlled too tightly by the government - they could send the relief to whatever nations needed it, without governmental consent or approval. Until now, it hadn't been abused, but that would likely happen, eventually.

>Fallout Shelter System

Somewhere in the northern half of the nation, there were several big shelters for civilians and military, reinforced with meter-thick steel-plates and equipped to survive basically everything ranging from bunker busters over EMP attacks to a full-scale nuclear assault on Saboria. Whenever war with a nuclear nation happened, the Chairman would be evacuated to one of the bunkers.

>Foreign Airforce Base

Both the Canaries and the Pacific Islands had airforce bases, allowing the Saborian Airforce to operate on a greater scale, slightly less dependent on the Saborian carrierfleet. Thus, the Airforce could field several additional squadrons.

>Great Monument

In memory of those who built this country and turned it into what it was, this monument a few kilometers south of Ferinh had been built some years ago. It was a tourist attraction, but it made the Saborian people proud of their nation.

>Great Temple

While the previous Chairman had completely forbidden all religion, he had built this temple to honour all religions of the world, regardless of their origin or belief. While many bad things had been caused by them, there also were many good things done because of them, and these things this temple was built for.

>Great University

A powerful country needs an intellectual elite, and this university in the eastern part of the capital ensured that those who were either intelligent enough to get in or worked enough to achieve the same, that these people wouldbecome part of the world's greatest. Generous funding by the state made studying here free, much to the relief of its students who barely had time for a job.

>Internet

Something that every modern nation needed was the Internet. Almost every civilian household in Saboria had a computer connected to the internet, though it was made sure that everyone who used it knew about its dangers and possibilities.

>Interstate System

Modern motorways connect a nation and are, aside from railroads and travel by plane, its veins, keeping it alive. The interstate system reaches even the most remote city, enabling everyone to get everywhere with a good car and enough fuel.

>Manhattan Project

Nuclear weapons are a serious topic, and proper testing for them is needed. That is what the Manhattan project is for. Testing and perfecting nuclear weaponry.

>Movie Industry

What is a nation without the ability to make its own movies and TV series? be it for entertainment, education or edutainment, the movie industry serves this purpose well and provides the Saborian people with something to do after a hard day at work.

>National Research Lab

The Black Mesa Research Facility, in the northern part of the country. Equipped with the most modern equipment possible, it searched for many things in the sciences, be it mathematics, chemistry, physics, medicine or one of the many other sciences. Thousands and thousands of scientists worked there to make tomorrow a better place.

>Social Security System

The SSS was only a small, but very important part of the entire system in Saboria, which ensured that everything connected to it worked just as planned and needed. In a way, it was the heart of Saborian Socialism.

>Space Program

The Saborian Space Program. Known worldwide for its incredible accomplishments, such as landing on the moon and building the space station of the international space elevator, it filled the Saborian people with pride. Additionally to this, it made research in zero-gravity possible and worked together with the Airforce to make not only the shuttles, but also the normal planes of Saboria better, for more safety and reliability.

>Stock Market

While it was a communistic nation, the need for a (regulated) stock-marked was recognised by its leaders. It ensured the possibility that even the common man could potentially become part of the decision-process of a company and, of course, it brought good profits into the nation.

>Strategic Defense Initiative

To defend against the nuclear threat, this complex system of anti-missle rockets, space-based anti-ICBM lasers and many other defenses had been built. It was partially linked to the AA defense system, to provide even better defense against both planes and nuclear attacks.

OOC: This is basically to showcase what wonders I have ingame. :awesome:

OOC comments yay, IC comments nay, due to Classified.

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For reasons unknown to the public, part of the Saborian forces were being mobilised and readied for transport elsewhere.

*Classfied*

Further mobilisation occured, with Saborian forces being sent into the former Arctic Confederacy, while more were being prepared to be sent from the Hudson Bay.

Additionally, the SOSUS network was being expanded, to be capable of watching the newly acquired territory.

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In two, three places of the country, a new project was begun.

Bunkers, deep into the earth, concealed by various means - vegetation, warehouses or otherwise - were being built. Soon, nuclear weapons would be stored within them, to give Saboria the capability of striking back even when its regular silos had been destroyed.

Hidden Nuclear Missle Silos were being built. Under high classification, of course.

OOC: Last wonder for the next months.

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OOC: Just out of curiosity, why wouldn't you announce they are at least there. The whole point of nuclear deterrence is to convince an enemy they can't launch a decapitating first strike, doesn't it make more sense not to announce their location, but that you've developed an advanced difficult to detect silo design. I think that would give people more pause at hitting your first than keeping it secret and still letting someone thing they can hit you first.

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OOC: Just out of curiosity, why wouldn't you announce they are at least there. The whole point of nuclear deterrence is to convince an enemy they can't launch a decapitating first strike, doesn't it make more sense not to announce their location, but that you've developed an advanced difficult to detect silo design. I think that would give people more pause at hitting your first than keeping it secret and still letting someone thing they can hit you first.

OOC: I may or may not announce them once they're actually finished.

Until then, I'd rather keep it secret, so that nobody can be sure if I have them or not.

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Construction of the Silos progressed quite well, while war raged in europe.

The Charman had decided to announce the silos after construction was finished, to bind resources that would surely be looking for them in the event of war - or simple aggression.

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*Classified*

In addition to the silos, a highly unusual amount of uranium usable for nuclear weapons was being gathered and bought by Saboria. The two factories responsible for constructing nuclear weaponry got a huge order, as it seemed.

*In the Chairman's office*

"Chairman, Sir, are you sure?"

"Yes, I am, Gerard. I am very sure."

"Well...Okay. I'll build you those, Sir."

"But make sure we can upscale them at will."

"You mean if you decide to make the payload even higher?"

"Yes. That may very well be a possibility."

"I...I'll try, but I promise nothing."

"I know you're going to do this well, Gerard. I know that."

The chief engineer nodded. "Thank you for your trust, Sir."

"Now, go and do your job."

"Yes, Sir."

With that, the chief engineer of the two facilities left, to make the order truth. Nuclear bombs with an immense payload.

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Additionally to these projects, a significant part of the current Budget-plus will be spent on EMP-proofing whatever can feasibly be proofed. It will cost metric tons of money, but as Saboria has virtually no debts and the GDP was always in the green, a significant amount of the saved money can be used without problems.

This may bring slight inflation, but that is practically no problem in comparison to the entire country being disabled by EMPs.

Work begun immediately.

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OOC: This is sanctioned by Mercy. Please message him if you disagree with this post.

*Very classified*

*One of Saboria's moon-missions, before the war*

One of the missions to the dark side of the moon - the side not facing Bob at all times - had found artificial structures, apparently built my men, but abandoned a long time ago, decades ago. Heavy blast-doors had sealed it shut, and thus the Chairman decided to send modified space-suits, capable of wielding weapons and reinforced against bullet-fire in the front. Two shuttles had landed nearby, with a total of 14 men coming out of them. They would, after quite a bit of work, open the door and be greeted by an old, but still functional automatic defense turret. It was taken care of quickly, though one of the men had to return to the shuttle, his suit being slightly damaged.

After this, they began exploring the facility, encountering other turrets on occasion, but few as functional as the one at the entrance. Within the base, they found things that would be kept secret from the entire world. The astronauts had to make oaths to never, ever tell anyone what they had found.

The entire crew, dead, from starvation; The base was operational, though partially damaged. Genetic experiments had been found, dead monsters, apparently designed for war, including armor for them. Several DNA-databases containing information that could potentially be used to enhance humans. Cures for various sicknesses, genetic problems, even something that could be a cure for cancer! However, they also found records of bizarre, extremely bizarre and very unethical experiments on humans, as well as a biological warhead, apparently dangerous enough to keep it off Bob, on the moon.

Until now, there had been no real reason to use this base.

This war, however, would result in something similar to the apocalypse. The Chairman authorised the construction of a number of powerful rockets - even stronger than the Saturn V Rockets. These would bring large amounts of materials to that base in the case of all-our nuclear war, to expand it, making life for almost 1,200 people possible. It would likely almost bankrupt Saboria, despite its economic power, but that was a necessary sacrifice.

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