Hetman Vladislav Posted December 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 (edited) wow that almost made sense. im asking why nations who have nothing to do with any of my actions are being attacked now how is that selfish. i just wanted a LEGITAMATE reason You are getting them involved when you ask them to aid you. When I look at the written reasons for aid, its easy to see that they are doing this to help you against us. Edited December 17, 2009 by Hetman Vladislav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradik Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Since multiple nations of your alliance attacked multiple nations of CSN, the situation has evolved into an alliance war. Any nations under the AA of Justice are targets for CSN. well lets look at this there was 2 of us untill CSN attacked more which was people giving aid. then after that 2 nations who were minding there own was attacked how was this multiple nations attacking you guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradik Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 You are getting them involved when you ask them to aid you. When I look at the written reasons for aid, its easy to see that they are doing this to help you against us. ok dude ive said this already what did weslandia and budville do? the others aided me yes but why were they attacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmansfield68 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 well lets look at this there was 2 of us untill CSN attacked more which was people giving aid. then after that 2 nations who were minding there own was attacked how was this multiple nations attacking you guys I'm not a member of CSN, but if CSN is attacking you and your buddy, and members of your alliance begin aiding you while you're at war with CSN, the act(s) of their aid constitute an alliance-wide conspiracy to fight CSN. Result: Alliance war. No one in Justice is safe at this/that juncture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxes II Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 (edited) well lets look at this there was 2 of us untill CSN attacked more which was people giving aid. then after that 2 nations who were minding there own was attacked how was this multiple nations attacking you guys Oh? And what two nations were those? Budville declared on Billywhite30 from CSN as a "defense" against Billywhite30's authorized attack against a nation who aided you. Due to this, he was declared on by three other CSN nations. Weslandia was declared on per this DoW. Edited December 17, 2009 by Xerxes II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradik Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 I'm not a member of CSN, but if CSN is attacking you and your buddy, and members of your alliance begin aiding you while you're at war with CSN, the act(s) of their aid constitute an alliance-wide conspiracy to fight CSN. Result: Alliance war. No one in Justice is safe at this/that juncture. ok that is probally the best reply i had and i see where you are coming from but it didnt seem that large scale to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradik Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Oh? And what two nations were those?Budville declared on Billywhite30 from CSN as a "defense" against Billywhite30's authorized attack against a nation who aided you. Due to this, he was declared on by three other CSN nations. Weslandia was declared on per this DoW. that is false information President Niall and Xerxes II attacked budville and nothing else happened and when weslandia was attacked he was 11 days inactive where did you get this from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hetman Vladislav Posted December 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 ok dude ive said this already what did weslandia and budville do? the others aided me yes but why were they attacked Maradik, you were getting almost every single member in your alliance to help and consequently die. It was only a matter of time before you got them to help you. I already am guessing you sent them messages to aid you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradik Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Maradik, you were getting almost every single member in your alliance to help and consequently die. It was only a matter of time before you got them to help you. I already am guessing you sent them messages to aid you. nope actually entierly wrong my friend they offered it to me as they saw my nation needed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxes II Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 that is false information President Niall and Xerxes II attacked budville and nothing else happened and when weslandia was attacked he was 11 days inactive where did you get this from I got it from the fact of actually talking with billster18 and having been active during that time. Billster18 has deleted the records of the original war declaration against billywhite30, just like one of our CSN nations has deleted the war record against billster18 (hence why you can only tie two names to that conflict). Additionally, if you'll check the war logs, you will also see the declaration reason for both Xerxes II and President Niall are both "Alliance Defense". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradik Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 I got it from the fact of actually talking with billster18 and having been active during that time. Billster18 has deleted the records of the original war declaration against billywhite30, just like one of our CSN nations has deleted the war record against billster18 (hence why you can only tie two names to that conflict).Additionally, if you'll check the war logs, you will also see the declaration reason for both Xerxes II and President Niall are both "Alliance Defense". ok please teach me how you delete war records cuz now i know your lying and although they may have been approved to attack weslandia it doesnt mean he did anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freelancer Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 ok that is probably the best reply i had and i see where you are coming from but it didn't seem that large scale to me This is about that time where your thinking to yourself " damn I wish I would have taken social studies more seriously" aren't ya ? When this is over the friends you did have, probably won't be any longer, in-game that is, good job !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 NOW this thread has gotten good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradik Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 This is about that time where your thinking to yourself " damn I wish I would have taken social studies more seriously" aren't ya ?When this is over the friends you did have, probably won't be any longer, in-game that is, good job !! ok im not thinking that im just being honest that reply made more sense than any i had seen so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmansfield68 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 NOW this thread has gotten good. Our perseverance has paid off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Our perseverance has paid off. indeed, this beats calling up Western Digital and cussing them out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradik Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 indeed, this beats calling up Western Digital and cussing them out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Aiding a nation at war has been an act of war itself for as long as I can remember. Aiding you in itself made them 'liable for attack'. I dunno, didn't seem to work that way in the Popcorn War. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradik Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 alright guys well its been fun and im sure it will continue to be but i got stuff to do so have a good night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uralica Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 ok please teach me how you delete war records cuz now i know your lying and although they may have been approved to attack weslandia it doesnt mean he did anything They can be deleted after the wars expire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxes II Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 ok please teach me how you delete war records cuz now i know your lying I'm not even going to reply to that As any experienced player knows, you can delete records of war. Go to the Help Forum if you want someone to explain how. although they may have been approved to attack weslandia it doesnt mean he did anything Weslandia got declared on per this Declaration of War. The fact is, you are a leader within the group of "justice" and you chose to attack TYR with your friend. From this, several of your members aided you and one even declared back on a CSN nation fulfilling our MDP. These actions helped in your rogue attacks and so can be considered "aiding the enemy". You did not respond to diplomacy from Wolfpack and CSN. Whether you meant it or not, you've led to this becoming an alliance war and those members also being declared on so as to prevent them from giving you aid. If you wish to offer your surrender and spare your members from your actions, feel free to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4SnwL Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 I've waited all this time to see a reply from justice on the OWF, and all I got was a series of posts saying "we did that for fun, but why do you attack us back?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 They can be deleted after the wars expire. or peaced out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uralica Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 or peaced out That too. I didn't think that they would have been in this case though. My apologies for assuming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 That too. I didn't think that they would have been in this case though. My apologies for assuming. Dont let it happen again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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