Israfeel

Your moral high ground has sunk. Argue as much as you like but you gained supporters by spewing righteous rhetoric and you turn around and put to use the same tactics you were preaching against.

I get the terms were light. I am implying they were to isolate the NPO and whoever remained. Sustaining an enternal war against 700 nations is easier than one against 1500-2100 nations.

I get the feeling it wasn't out of the kindness of their hearts that they gave light terms to those who surrendered first. Because the flag that people rallied under, the purpose of this crusade against the evil of the NPO was to bring down tyranny. It was to bring an end to alliance ending / Community destruction and crazy terms. Yet Karma has demonstrated it is rapidly becoming what it set out to destroy and the excuses for such behavior are running thin. This irrational fear of the NPO needs to be dealt with, either stop lying or grow a backbone. You can't keep an alliance down forever, if they exist. You just have to play the game.

These terms are down right hypocritical.

I don't think you yourselves take that as a justification for what is being done here. At this point it has become loot and plunder. None of you really fear that the NPO will somehow come back and be able to take all of you apart, it is a mob beating a corpse now.

The game is stats, if the NPO wanted to exist as some online community with no relation to the game they could but they are an alliance in the game. Their existence relies on existing in the game. With these terms, no rebuilding can be done at all for every NPO nation save the 50 or so that have sizable warchests. They go beyond asking the losing alliance to stagnate or remain broken but ask for further damage and reparations that would force servitude for indefinite period. The 14 days of war will simply leave most of the unable to recover, perhaps even risking bill lock. Don't let vengeance blind your judgment. These terms were carefully written to be refused and leave some room as to not invoke too much outrage.

Wow, crazy terms. So options are, face war or disappear. These terms were written to be rejected.

Smart move by the NPO

NPO played the game, they played it too well. Right and wrong (fair and unfair) is always subjective. I think we are ganna miss them.

I am not justifying NPO at all, if you want to paint yourselves as another NPO go right ahead. And again, nothing has happened yet but time will tell.

Yes

... You effectively do so when you call yourself Karma and justify your every action with "what comes around goes around".

Didn't know this was about Francoism. I just joined in the hypocrisy pointing out party. Executioner of Karma, as in carrying out Karma.

Masking hypocrisy under some absurd idea is good propaganda, but don't fool yourselves as well in the process. This is revenge, this is greed, and most of all this is opportunism. CN works like this, and NPO made a bad decision they are paying for but claiming the moral high ground by saying that you are executioner of "Karma" is ridiculous. And Tyga, i'll be preaching while they come.

I'd rather wait for the terms... Maybe then we can see Karma is just a group of alliances wanting to knock the top dog off or something else.

Its taunting for now. We'll see if that manifests itself on terms.

I'd say not yet you havn't but you should read around, popular sentiment seems to be leaning toward the harsher side. The war is still young, as frustration grows we can only expect more.

True, but you could read the posts instead then.... They don't say anything much different. Been told that before. I feel the same way. B what?

I meant not unified to present a common message. IE, some of them are calling for draconian measures and ones that were previously used by the NPO. That statement meant to say, I can't really blame you. And I don't remember exactly why. I think it had to do with summer two-a-days and a job, just lack of time. You remember me? Good point, I doubt that they organized to all vote for the harshest measures but its a possibility. It doesn't take away from what was posted though.

If you really doubt me, read the peace poll thread. Well over 50% want extremely harsh, might I say "NPO"-like, terms for the war. Remember it isn't only Karma voting. In fact some people, if you read in, are calling for punishment for the peace moders. This war has nothing to do with right and wrong, I see the advantage of claiming the moral high ground but I am ganna call you guys on it here. Then again, Karma isn't exactly unified.

Again, that could be true. My memory of war is kinda outdated now. Still funny to see that the very thing that this coalition preaches against it seeks to imitate in every step. I doubt anything is going to change, just the names.

Who knows, things might have changed but when I used to play it was a good idea to keep nations in peace mode to have some insurance because at this point it doesn't matter if 600 NPO nations or 1000 NPO nations get beat down against the thousands. Tactically, staying in Peace mode serves them better.

... Or they plan ahead and have a plan B. (Its not like peace moders can't come during the war to give the aid) Meh, its just because there are so many Karma guys hungry for tech. In even fights, correct peace moding usually won the war.

This peace mode taunting is really ridiculous. The guys in there, the ones with half a brain, understand some nations stay in peace mode to recover, some to bring aid later, some to bring recovery aid after war and others to come as a second wave. While I can see this as a tactic to get them to come out, I hope none of you believe what you are saying.

Nope, not yet.