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have fun o/ WFF

well then, is surrender term a legal document? anyway, i can't find our old GP, and i'd be surprised there wasn't something similar since OPP is in fact protectorate pact. i don't care about GP all that much, or whatever reason they attacked us, whether it was justifiable or not. it's important to note that TPF is totally capable and willing to attack its protectorate.

their attacking us gave us lots of trouble internally, especially when it came to FA. i say by convention, people generally think of GP a treaty.hence, you usually announce it when the agreement is made, otherwise you'd see an alliance with multiple protectors, which i think is not common. I supposed there was a non-aggression clause in GP, if not, our mistake for signing it

TPF attacking Soldier had substantial effect on our relationship, i lost trust in them after the incident, and really wanted to stay away, but i was just the minority. i couldn't stop soldier from joining OPP,so eventually i left. and soldier disbanded shortly after. i consider TPF caused soldier's downfall, directly or indirectly.Just to be fair, if we stood together regardless of continuing our relationship with TPF or not, we wouldn't fall. nonetheless TPF was the trouble.

lol, i didn't even realize there were ex-vox in soldier, but no one ever talked about it.

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tell me you're not serious, though i'm not too surprised....i know what's in your head

18 mil

NEW whined a bit though i wish i saw something like this in DF's DoW

friends before treaty. o/ ARES

NEW fought really well in this war

AUT's always been logically inconsistent

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obviously, so far, we're the only alliance willing to risk everything for friends whom we have no treaty with. other DF members have already explained it well enough, i don't think i can do anything other than putting up a good fight with you guys. ignore him, he never stays true to his word, soon you'll see his change of opinion. (friendly reminder, what's with your radio silent?) what?

the honorable DF doesn't care about what our enemies throw at us, flaming,trolls,CMs,nukes..etc anything you name it.

i can't speak on my alliance's behalf, i don't know how people would interpret this, but do you think it would be ok if all we want is just take the pounding for our friends, not to claim the victory? cuz that's basically what we're doing. we're coordinating our attacks with all the participants, so it doesn't matter how you view/twist our intents, this is the same war

TPF gave us $0. tech deals =/= aid. youwish's situation was largely your fault, you brought a pro-TPF guy here when most of us weren't too fond of them. just ask around any former soldiers, how many of them actually like TPF? our relationship with them simply wouldn't work, too bad you couldn't see that. did anyone in soldier blame for what you and jack got us into? do you honestly think that TPF had a valid reason to attack the entire when none of us outsides you two deserved it. if you tried to keep an open mind, why are you denying our contributions to soldier? is it because TPF has done more for the soldier or is it because you're not a man of reason. i think the following passage suggests the latter. no disrespect to king, but this is non-sense.

well said, AUT, stop blaming others but yourself. Before youwish came, no one liked TPF, he converted you and he betrayed you. thereafter, you were the only one who wanted tie with TPF. DF aided us lots of money, and what did TPF do? 100 mill tech deals? i couldn't understand why you chose to ignore the collective wishes, between DF and TPF, anyone would know who'd make a better friend. you never respected mel, and those who helped soldier in hardship. you tried too hard to please the new people and forget them few days after. mel, i hope you can have good time in TGR, they seem to be a nice bunch

you came to soldier and AUT appointed you as a chancellor. You were the reason why soldier was drawn close to TPF, and AUT put so much trust into you, yet you left for NSO for some cheap thrill, who's the real traitor? i'm 100% sure that everyone in soldier was just pretending to like you.

lol, how many alliances dropped their treaties during the war? by your logic, the whole point of the game seems to be ditching your friends when they're in trouble.

TPF had no intentions of honoring their treaties doesn't mean soldier had to do the same. stick to OPP, lets what you were supposed to do. we had treaty with TPF ,not with mhawk. i wouldn't care if you didn't badmouth me/my alliance, this post has nothing to do with soldier, but your acts in general.

soldier is in OPP, no? why did you join Elysium? if your loyalty/friendship was to mhwak not TPF, then why not just merged soldier into Elysium? why signed treaty with TPF? just to let somebody else in soldier to honor it? i also noticed that your AA changed several times, but you're acting like soldier is still yours. i think you should let it go.

i disagree, i was the first one to leave, however, as a member for political reasons.the other two left as gov, i'd think they should take more blame, but that wasn't the worst part of all. The leader (yes THEAUT) valued his loyalty to mhawk more than that to his alliance, and left soldier behind in the midst of the war. Not only did he not fulfill his duties as a leader, he also failed to fulfill his obligation in OPP. (and remember he got soldier into this). And then, he felt the needs to kick/ban/troll me, thestig, and melutar on irc, and take shot at our alliances. You can pretty much tell he's very irrational, irresponsible, and irritating during this period of time. i'd say AUT accounted for 80% of soldier's downfall. i had good time in soldier, it didn't end well, but i had good time. i regret a bit of being so involved, due to how it ended. in general, i think AUT can be a good person, but he's sometime quick tempered and loses his cool.

o/ THE Darkest FIST is coming