Kristjan Laidoner

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Chester, you're irrelevant. He said nothing that was "bang on"; he had an immature meltdown and went after people because of their religious affiliations. He's a narcissistic racist at best. Your Discord messages have been spewed all over the place, so don't think for a moment we don't know you belong at the bottom of the barrel with him. Also, nice try; we have no multis. Literally everyone in NoR is fully vetted and known via third party social media and Voice Channels. Sad that that is the best argument you can grasp onto. Try a little harder. PS: Nimitz was a Fleet Admiral, not a Grand Admiral. "Grand Admiral" was Karl Dönitz's rank. So you're using a German High Commander's rank; according to your constituents that makes you a Nazi. Smooth move, Exlax.

Can a Mod close this? It ran its course when the not suspicious author posted it. See what I did there? You will

Apparently helping someone turn their life around, and then honouring them when they are murdered, is despicable behaviour. TvM dropped his life of hate and rehabilitated himself before he was killed. Know what you are talking about before you spew your filth about those whom have passed. Easy to talk about people behind their backs when they're dead and cannot defend themselves. And you say we are the despicable ones! Also, you do realize "skinhead" referred to a culture that had nothing to do with racism or politics for decades before it was tainted with filth, right? And that anti-extremist & anti-hate skinheads outnumber racist ones hundreds of thousands to one, even today? Hate to break your illusion of the world after all these years, but you're blanket branding a music subculture as something that is the antithesis to what they represent, all because of <1% of their population. A really simple Google search could yield this fact. Also, a majority of our "Propaganda" is based on Norse mythology and/or the German & Danish Empires. So, congratulations; you're not just historically ignorant, you're blinded by your own bloodlust. Of course, based upon your inability to string together coherent sentences, I can't say that I am too surprised by your inherent inability to see logic and reason. You are fundamentally wrong, and your ignorance of our members and their history is overt. Glad you joined Aevrum; you fit in well with them based upon your intelligence alone.

OOC: Grow up, man. If you would actually talk to any of us, instead of sitting in your own echo chamber, you'd quickly realize that literally none of us are Nazis, "White Nationalists", etc. Even the two Nordlanders you declared on and claimed are "White Supremacists / White Nationalists" are a Bosnian and a Jew. Your argument is so baseless that one cannot even formulate a response beyond "no, we are not" because there is simply zero evidence to support your baseless lies and slander. Many of us are friends outside of the game, and we consist of individuals from literally dozens of different backgrounds. We have multiple Jews living in Israel and elsewhere (that are seeeeriously over people like you that assume Nordlanders are Nazis, and people like Bormann that call them "fake Jews" or "token Jews"), we have multiple Muslims living in the Middle East and South Asia, we have Asians from Singapore and Japan; we're legitimately multi-national, multi-creed, and multi-ethnic. If our members were hate filled White Nationalists (which is a seriously ignorant term to begin with; "white" isn't a nationality), then these aforementioned members would not be around. Nobody in this free game is forcing them to be Nordlanders; they stay because we are all friends, and the Nordreich goes well beyond CN. This baseless warpath you're on is not seated in reality. I guess if you lie to yourself long enough, you'll believe anything. Grab the keys to get out of your echo chamber of lies and find something more productive to do with your life.

Haha, ok. OOC: Guys I'm done responding to posts like these. I'd rather watch paint dry in Florida. Have fun.

Join the Nordreich! We do incompetent Alliance heads the favour of keeping them up-to-date on their own Alliance's warchests!

Resolve it how I wanted? If you're going to bring me into this, we may as well talk about how I told you to drop Kindle & Yolo, literally an hour after the DoW was posted, if you wanted to see a de-escalation of hostilities. Regardless of what anyone else could have possibly told you, regarding de-escalation, failing to remove them constituted immediate sanctioning of their actions on your behalf, which led the war to where it is now. But, none of this apparently matters, anyway; you crafted a no-surrender clause for your alliance. As I told you in private, there will absolutely be a full formal surrender on behalf of Aevrum, as an Alliance, to end this war prematurely. The Nordreich will positively not accept anything else. I have said that since the beginning, and will absolutely not waiver. Call anyone and everyone a liar, if you must; but know that if ever there were truer words, they are as follows: The Nordreich will accept no less than Aevrum's surrender or death. Just as a side note, because I don't immensely feel like going down the rabbit hole of intangible arguments: The Nordreich's "brand" has, if anything, been immensely improved due to this conflict. I have told you this in private, and I will repeat it in public: Meth, you've really put yourself in a position of global repugnance. You improve the Foreign Relations of Alliances just by going to war with them. There comes a time when you need to look at yourself in the mirror and ask, "is it worth it?" That time was years ago, and the answer is a very hard no. The bluster has worn off, and folks are pretty privy to your M.O. Tell you what, though; I WILL make a deal with you right now. Order Rheinlander out of PM and I'll order three Nordlanders in your range out of PM. I want to see which of the 4 can rebuild their losses more quickly.

This is useless. The kid is psychotically delusional. His nation isn't worth the brain energy to think about. Perma ZTI for him and anyone that sticks close to him.

He told Jewish Nordlanders they belong in an oven; please go on about how that is vague. More complicity; you are truly a piece of &#33;@#&#036;.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA the irony in your post is....incredible. Keep diggin' the hole, kid.

Are you that delusional? You removed a legal and warranted sanction without asking ONE SINGLE OTHER SENATOR, and are blaming us for the Sanction War? At this point, it's not even slander to call you delusional and incompetent; it's flat-out factual. Enjoy your destruction; you earned it. This prancing around of your ego is hilarious.

Congratulations, your reading comprehension skills are as pitiful as your Leadership competency. Go back and reread my first post and look for the bit where I posted links. You COMPLETELY ignored what I had to say when I gave you a way out. You're playing the victim and fooling nobody. Literally not fooling anybody here over the age of 15. Seriously.

Calling you out on being a pathological liar. That is BS, and I provided PROOF in my first post that what you just said is a lie. Cut the bs; you're not fooling a soul.

This is a prime example of setting the bar so low, an excavator is required to reach it. This is nothing more than a personal pity party infused with an exceptionally desperate reach for assistance. You were given two opportunities (1 & 2) to get you and your Alliance members out of this, but you instead chose to escalate the war into what it is now. I specifically stated: "Noctis, failure to remove Sir Kindle from your Alliance constitutes complicity....Your ineptness is not an excuse for indecision. Fix this problem before we fix it for you." "You (Yolo) and Sir Kindle brought Noctis into this, and he is going to have to make a decision here. That is how Responsibility of Leadership works. You (Yolo) put the noose around your necks; whether it is Noctis or the Nordreich kicking the chair out from under you all is up to him.....Whether or not the rest of the Royal House of Aevrum (is destroyed) is up to Noctis. I implore him to make the correct decision." Two times I made it clear as day that you had a decision to make that would mean the difference between the Nordreich slaughtering two nations or an Alliance's worth. You made the wrong decision, and here we are. Literally everyone but Kindle, the second to last (behind you) person on Planet Bob I'd ever want to find myself in agreeance with, sees the reality of the situation. You lost control of your Alliance and chose to side with the mutineers for the pure purpose of giving the illusion that, because you "agreed" with what they did, they technically did not usurp your power. Which is so laughably ignorant that I cannot stress enough how much you earned your own destruction. You can spin rhetoric and twist facts all day long, but literally nothing you say or do can erase the fact that you were given the chance, early on, to end this war before it started, and flat out ignored it. Don't bother going with the excuse of "I spoke to one NoR Government official and they told me war was mandatory" because that is a flat-out lie, and I implore you to prove otherwise. Not to mention you had me, the Commander of the Nordreich's Military, telling you consecutive times IN YOUR ALLIANCE'S DECLARATION OF WAR THREAD, that you had a way out of this. You could have asked in that thread, you could have PM'd me in the forums or in-game, you could have asked other NoR Gov members about my posts; you did none of these. You, in your ever so unforgiving warpath of incompetency, instead ignored your shots out of this war. At this point, you can't even blame Kindle & Yolo for Aevrum's destruction; you and your incompetency of leadership are to blame. So, go ahead, beg past acquaintances for help. That's all you're doing here, afterall; begging. You can claim otherwise, but this desperate reach for help will be met with no helping hands from anyone more competent than yourself. Everyone has reached the end of their patience with your egotistic endeavours. You couldn't even accept Bormann's loss without blaming it on us; claiming we "needed him banned to win." Had nothing to do with the fact he went on a long, Anti-Semitic, racist, and hate-fueled in-game diatribe against multiple Nordlanders, right? This is just another example of you and your ego being completely unable of understanding that actions have consequences. The terms are not unacceptable; you just don't want to surrender because it would mean you got yourself in over your head. Surrendering would be a blow too big for your ego to handle. Ironic, really, that you're claiming terms are unacceptable when you, yourself, had your name slapped upon the most humiliating and ignominious surrender term ever laid at the feet of an Alliance in the history of CN. Forcing TTK to vote for you in the Maroon Senate was flat-out disgusting, and I have a feeling even those responsible for that term immensely regret it. Your surrender terms are not unreasonable; you are. Enjoy your continued destruction; you earned it. With Regards, Kristjan Laidoner Reichsmarschall Nordreich

ACHTUNG! After convening with the head of the AGW Overlords, the Nordreich formally declares full peace with their Alliance. All military operations are hereby terminated, and all Nordlanders have been ordered to send Peace Offers to AGWO nations. The initial issue that gave us cause for war has been fully rectified and, as a result, we no longer have any reason to pursue conflict. Diplomacy reigns once more, and we have found peace through its comforting hands. All peace terms that were discussed in private channels have been fulfilled at the time of posting this address. The Nordreich claims zero authority of future initiatives on behalf of AGWO, and makes clear the sovereignty of the latter Alliance. We in the Reich wish the AGWO well in its future endeavours. Warmest Regards, Oro Ibah Aozpi, Reichskaiser Latexi, Kronprinz Kristjan Laidoner, Reichsmarschall Keysariyt Hanssen, Reichskanzlerin Johan Pitka, Stabsoffizier PS: This thread seems to have been derailed by an unrelated discussion. I kindly ask that this discussion be ended in the name of the Peace declared by this Announcement. Thank You

Are you serious? Everything I have said I have rationalized and explained thoroughly. As for name calling, I immensely disagree. Calling someone a liar and providing proof of it is simply calling the truth for what it is. If someone does not want to be called a liar, then they should not tell lies. Also, you realize WE were declared war on, right? How in the world am I blaming others to justify our actions? I cannot even begin to rationalize an answer to your post simply because it makes such little sense. As for no empathy or compassion: I called a cease fire on AGWO the moment their leader returned our diplomatic accord. Stop acting as if the Nordreich is inhuman, and recognize the detailed rationale stated in our posts. I am detailed for a reason. With Regards, Kristjan Laidoner Reichsmarschall Nordreich

I literally provided links to me telling you to drop Kindle. Had you dropped Kindle and Yolo at the same time, and not escalated the conflict by declaring wars yourself, the fighting would have been limited to just those two. THIS IS QUITE LITERALLY A FACT. Your forced senate seat is coming to a close and your alliance is as insignificant as they come; we had absolutely no demands for you at the point of DoW than to drop those two. We literally gave you a way out, but your colossal ego prevented you from kicking them both, as it would have forced you to admit fault. You are a pathological liar that cannot accept responsibility for your actions, and you're not fooling anyone over the age of twelve. Lie and speculate to yourself all you want, but the proof is out there. You were given immediate options that consisted ONLY of kicking them. I provided the links to the posts already. You let this conflict turn into what it is because your ego is larger than your ability to see near-future consequences. There is absolutely, positively nobody to blame for this other than yourself. Welcome to the Real World, where people provide contextual proof of your lies and call you out on them. KOE, Kristjan Laidoner Reichsmarschall Nordreich

You may want to pick up a dictionary and look that word up. The Nordreich has lost less than 4% of its pre-war NS The Royal House of Aevrum has lost over 68% of its pre-war NS We have gained Allies since declaration date You lost a Protectorate completely as a result of your actions You literally cannot do more damage to the Nordreich that cannot be repaired in one day. It is physically impossible. Your delusions of grandeur may trick children into believing you, but nobody here is fooled by what is obviously pure incompetence and flat out delusion. You yourself are only winning wars against NoR nations because: You declared on nations that were just over three weeks old at DoW date You are actively using nuclear weapons against them when they obviously have no SDI You declared ONLY on inactives when active nations were within range You've lied about the third point in an attempt to hide your cowardice, but Carlos Serrano and Andrew McNaughton were both active and within your range when you declared. Klaus Henkel was, as well, though he was "Active This Week", as opposed to "Active Last Week" like the guys you declared on. You can claim you were unaware, and paint yourself as fully ignorant (an excuse seated in reality) ; or you can admit to shooting fish in a barrel. But don't outright lie when charts and statistical data are readily and publicly available. You're a peon that showed the world that you cannot properly lead an alliance, nor can you fight nations without them being unable to properly fight back. Claiming you're a victim would be laughable, at best, if it were even funny. Don't want terms thrown at you that you don't like? Don't lose control of your own Alliance. Don't want your Alliance slaughtered (which it is; you can deny it all you want, but numbers never lie and the numbers underscore the destruction of RHoA)? Then remove those responsible for the mutiny and apologize for their actions. You lied earlier, as well, about the timeline of events and not knowing whom I am, so I'm going to call you out on it and post the proof. http://forums.cybernations.net/topic/131218-declaration-of-war-on-nordreich/?do=findComment&comment=3537105 http://forums.cybernations.net/topic/131218-declaration-of-war-on-nordreich/?do=findComment&comment=3537109 Both of these posts were made before ANY terms were sent your way, and I literally stated "Noctis, failure to remove Sir Kindle from your Alliance constitutes complicity.....Your ineptness is not an excuse for indecision. Fix this problem before we fix it for you." I signed my name and my position, as I do on every post. I do it as I am a member of the Nordreich's Government, and every post I make is a representation of the Reich as a whole. You EASILY could have gone on our forums, where you have an account, and checked the Government page which is VERY easy to find and open to the public. You could have checked our Wikipage. You could have done the absolute most basic thing and thought about the linguistic context of "Reichsmarschall" and broken it down into "Reich's Marshall" (Imperial Marshall). Stop making excuses for your pathetic inability to be a leader. If I was able to find out whom was sending secret aid to an enemy of the Reich by checking external databases, then you absolutely could have figured out whom I am. It's called doing your homework; something you are supposed to do as a leader. You can make childish excuses all you want, but literally nobody on the face of the entirety of Planet Bob is buying a word you say. Your own Protectorate just dropped you because of your inability to accept responsibility for your own actions and inaction. Grow up and learn your place. You will not destroy the Reich; ever. You are too small and insignificant to ever be able to even put a dent in it that can't be buffed out in an hour. If delusions are all you can bring to the table, then so be it. You act as if we seek your surrender and need it to "win". Your nation is insignificant enough to warrant a plan of action on the desk of the Týr (Student) Division, let alone the Initial-Tier Arminius Division. Your Alliance has lost a Protectorate due to your direct actions. The world sees you for the delusional pathological liar that you are. Quite frankly, we won this war the moment you allowed your peons to declare it without consequence. Your opinions of the definition of victory are less relevant than you, yourself. Enjoy attacking students of the Reich; they're the only Nordlanders you'll ever be able to strike, anyway. Frozen Regards, Kristjan Laidoner Reichsmarschall Nordreich

That may work on other people, but I'm not playing that game. Cut the straw man arguments out. You escalated it when you didn't remove both of the two guilty parties. That, alone, would have immediately de-escalated the situation and likely meant the end of the war for RHoA. Your failure as a leader is what brought the conflict to where it is, not our terms; especially since our terms were given to you after the war was open conflict between our Alliances. Now Serving: Your next excuse Cold Regards, Kristjan Laidoner Reichsmarschall Nordreich

It would seem the problem was less about political differences proving to be too large, and more about your potential as a competent leader proving to be too small. You cannot even accept responsibility for your Allies leaving you, even when they call you out by name in the initial address. Pathetic. Excellent situational awareness on behalf of UCR.

Your inexplicably colossal lapse of judgment kicked this war off. Afterall, it was you that posted the initial DoW on us; as well as launching initial strikes alongside Sir Kindle. Your attacks on our own triggered an immediate defense that has left your nation annihilated in a smoldering heap of embarrassment. There are consequences to actions; let this be a lesson in due diligence of running cost/benefit analyses of initiatives you plan. Think before you act. The Nordreich will not give you peace until at least the 8th; our soldiers don't have return tickets back home until then. Your nation will continue to be target practice for the Luftwaffe, and a temporary Nordreich weapons testing facility until then. We will talk on Friday. Until then, stay crispy. With Regards, Kristjan Laidoner Reichsmarschall Nordreich

This matter has been addressed internally, as all errant declarations shall be. Reparations have already been sent to one party; the other nation that was attacked shall receive them shortly. As I stated earlier, orders were given to stand down. If Nordlanders fail to follow updated orders, they will subsequently be ordered to pay reparations for their error(s). A mistake was made on behalf of one of our members, and has been rectified. I apologize for his temporary lapse in judgment. He was away for a period of time and, upon his return, only read the initial strike order. Only after his strikes did he read the follow-up stand down order. A mistake, and one he will fix. I have confirmed that all other Nordlanders at war with AGWO have indeed not launched attacks of any kind since the cease-fire was ordered. With Regards, Kristjan Laidoner Reichsmarschall Nordreich

Nordreich forces have hereby been given orders to cease offensive military operations to help facilitate Peace Talks. Defensive Operations will be carried out if we are attacked, but we will not declare any new wars* or make non-retaliatory strikes in existing campaigns* whilst we deliberate on Peace. Diplomacy was our initial avenue of approach, and will always be our preferred method of solving such problems as they arise. Thank you to the Diplomats from CotM that came to us so quickly to help resolve this. Unruly, thank you for your cooperation. Please understand that a quick, peaceful resolution is what we sought initially. We do not harbour any ill feelings towards yourself, your Alliance, or any of its members. We simply were forced to take action when it appeared that Diplomacy was not leading to a proper resolution. I look forward to speaking with you in private channels within the near future. *: Note: These updated orders strictly apply only to AGWO Nations. Military Operations will continue against RHoA nations for the indefinite future.