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  1. Section 2
    An attack on one signatory is an attack on all signatories. All signatories shall provide military, economic and diplomatic assistance. This clause supersedes all other treaties held by signatories.
     

     

    The last sentence of this section should be called "CubaQuerida clause"... Basically all signatories of this document are stating here that they may attack other alliances despite of non-aggresion provisions. They may even attack their allies. If we were allied to any of this bloc members, we would cancel on them immediately. Fortunately, SPATR doesn't have that problem.

  2. I  didn't comment on the outcome (i.e. who "won" or "lost"), just that "some things are best left unrecorded."

     

    My point was that, since the war apparently ended without formal peace resolution, the outcome should be decided based on the statistics. And statistics point out to DBDC victory. So I was baffled why DBDC member would not want their victory recorded on the wiki.

     

     

    On going...

     

    I don't think so. WTF had a chance to declare war on DBDC nation which had something btween 190-180k NS (that nation joined VE later on) but they didn't. Plus they are not attacking Noob Cake anymore (he is in war mode now). All that indicates de facto white peace. There is a war between WTF and DBDC nation taking place now - but that nation switched from WTF to DBDC and I think that is the reason for the war (especially if one looks at the in-game war declarations reasons).

  3. Walsh - with all due respect, there are some things that are best left unrecorded.

     

    Why do you think so in regards to the DBDC-WTF war? DBDC won decisively. DBDC razed WTF top tier to the bare ground and salted the earth. Sure, they also took some loses. But DBDC loses are minor compared to complete annihilation of WTF top tier.

  4. How the times change... Not so long ago Immortan Junka alias Tywin was insulting SPATR just because we were allied to DBDC. And now he himself signs a treaty with them. Well - with Doom Kingdom, but to all intents and purposes they are the same entity. Nonetheless the fact that Supernova-X was only allowed to sign with DK, not with DBDC proper, has its meaning too.

  5. Since SPATR is also involved in this war, I know what the SRA peace term is. I asked Walsh about that when this war was begining. The peace term is still the same. It is extremely lenient. I'm baffled why Limitless Monsters Confederatio Coalition is not interested in accepting it. Perhaps they think that they are winning the war?

  6. Freelancer, Knights of Ni are not at war with Monster Inc. Apples and Oranges. The Last Spartan is an approved member of SRA that was at war with Methrage and then aided Methrage. Looks like SRA has a mole in its midst.

     

    Now I know what has happened. The aid was to get Methrage in range, so war can be declared against him (so a bait which he took). Plus Methrage removed the mention of treaty with Badlands from his alliance description which can be interpreted as de facto cancellation. Hence the redeclaration.

     

    And I think Jaiar that you should apologize to THE 300 for the suggestion in the last sentence of your post.

     

     

    No body else does either, it make's no sense which is why it get's blown off as somebody's idea of asshattery, I thought the same thing about THE 300, but murtibing's account clears all that up, laughable, but hey isn't that what were here for.

     

    What is "laughable" about what I said?

  7. The Last Spartan is an approved member of SRA that was at war with Methrage and then aided Methrage. Looks like SRA has a mole in its midst.

     

    The Last Spartan a.k.a. THE 300 is a member of Swash Plates And Tail Rotors who joined SRA for the war to help our allies. When our warriors were leaving for SRA to join the fight they were instructed to not attack Limitless Nexus and only limit their involvement to Monsters Inc. and Confederatio Aesir. That was due to the treaty between Badlands and LN (and Badlands merged into SPATR), albait this treaty is not binding for SPATR (as per the stipulations of Merger Treaty between Badlands and SPATR). Nonetheless that treaty represented something and we wanted to avoid direct confrontation with LN. That is why THE 300 was told to peace out the first war (which took some time because Methrage wanted to be "smart" and sent peace offer after his own attacks...). I'm not sure why THE 300 sent aid and why she redeclared the war now. I will look into it.

     

    That being said taking into account Methrage's attitude and especially the current thread - which is Methrage's attempt at cheap propaganda utilizing material taken out of context and thus completely twisted - I'm less inclined to care whether our warriors fight LN or not. The Badlands-LN treaty is not binding for SPATR, so nobody can accuse us that we are involved in CubaQuerida-like situation.

  8. Though only by a few minutes.

    Also, you ever heard of an alliance importing 250,000 tech in a month?
    No, you haven't.

    And that's because we're that awesome.

     

    Out of curiosity: what (if any) precautions does NPO take to avoid situation in which a member who received alliance-sponsored technology leaves the alliance taking the riches with himself?

  9. Lord Hitchcock is quite unlucky: first sanctioned on the pink team by Cuba for raiding unaligned nation and now sanctioned on the brown team by Lady Dakota for the reason of "manners". Apparently Cuba is now against raiding unaligneds and Lady Dakota is now supporter of good manners...


  10. But all that aside, this is in the context of methrage and frankly I think its time for him to go. Lets allow him the self fulfilling prophesy he wanted, lets make him the martyr. Who knows, maybe someone will emerge as a legit "bad guy" I mean, electron sponge isn't walking through that door, Moldavi isn't relevant, Dilber's best moments are long gone.

     

    Methrage, sadly, is the star of the show. Who better to make an example of to refresh the discourse?

     

    If you are so keen on it, you can always join forces with Lady Dakota (who already declared "eternal" war on Methrage).

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    Normally its considered good diplomacy to let your ally know of the cancellation in private, and not post it on the OWF without notifying them first. The exception is if you're really pissed off and want to shame the ally that you're cancelling on.

     

    Unilateral cancellation stems from grave deterioration of relations between two involved alliances, dosen't it? So why need for a "good diplomacy"? What you said kind of reminds me of a message which Hershey - styling himself as lord - send to SPATR Leadership after last cancellation of our treaty with DBDC.

  12. The Untouchable Nexus pact lives on if you've ever wanted payback.and would like to assist Limitless Nexus against unprovoked aggression at the same time.

     

    SPATR supports SRA side in this war, as we are directly allied to SRA.

     

    Besides I'm not holding the whole PPO accuntable for the attack. It was one of their memebers decison to attack me. Their internal rules allowed their members to attack unaligned nations. That being said I think it was somewhat tactless for PPO leader to try to recruit me under such circumstances.

  13. No one on our side wants to surrender for an aggressive war started by SRA, who you have several allies attacking with you and ghosting your AA to mask the damages.

     

    A few SPATR members decided to switch to SRA AA for this war (which I assume you call "ghosting" - athough they are on the SRA AA with approval of SRA Leadership). They didn't do so to "mask the damages". They didn't do so to mask the damage either. They did so to show the support for our allies. Only one of these nations is able to attack anyone in the Limitless Monsters Confederatio at this point of time though. Personally, I think that this war is unfortunate. However the bottom line is that we (SPATR) are allied to SRA. So we support them.

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