Daenerys Targaryen
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We are defending our nations from spy attacks, yet some people have been incredibly persistent. Also, we've never had any private conversations so i'm not quite sure where this is coming from? All I have said is that I don't think it is Misfits (or WD / D1 for that matter) - I have no evidence it is you so will not point any fingers, but that doesn't mean you're not on my list of suspects :)
As for BG, i have no control over who he talks to or what he says. He is not a member of tA and is well outside my jurisdiction :) As for multis, again, please stop this blatant finger-pointing. If you think someone is a multi report them, or hell, let me know and i'll do my own investigations - I may not have the same access as the game mods but I have experience in this field.
@Samwise - that is a beautiful spreadsheet, just pulled from the daily csv files? Good way of looking at things!
I thought i was talking to you, i never actually bothered to cross check nation names :P It was Adamah who said that.
I don't care about BG, it looks like he'll be getting his own alliance rolled.
Anyway blame whoever you want, put it all on me if you want, if it makes you all feel better do what you need to do but I can guarantee you that blaming me isn't going to solve your problem.
I don't care if I'm a suspect, heck I'd put me on the list of suspects too but directly accusing me and placing all the blame on me without a single piece of evidence of something i know i didn't do only tells me you don't care who really did it, you want it to be me and nothing will change your minds. Even if the real culprit comes forwards and confesses, you won't care because it still isn't me.
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Apologies on my part, I thought you were just posting to say you'd joined the lot of people who had been spied by that idiot trying to $%&@ things up. This was not something tA organised, condoned, or even realised had happened until it was posted. As I had said we have also been hit with such ops even into this war and are aware it is not WD doing them.
@DT, you're correct, we haven't been given any special disadvantage other than the few dozen IRS / destroy money ops that keep getting forwarded to me. We've discussed that someone is trying to beat us down and 90%+ of our AA being impacted in their first collect is not the same as one or two people from other AAs who seem to have been hit solely so we can't say someone is only hitting us. Yes, we countered misfits as at the time our logical conclusion pointed to them, thus has been explained dozens of times, but I know you'll always argue against it.
As far as using dirty ops, at this stage I imagine a lot of tA membership is also wanting to use them if only to make them feel better for people constantly spying them - you realise we're doing this for the exact opposite of what you said, to ensure our opponents can rebuild and be able to fight again. If someone does fight us with the full intention of using dirty ops from the start I can guarantee we will respond in kind
@blockades - correct, Das had to blockade out in order to remove his. I too will need to hit an opponent with no navy now in order to clear (hopefully all) of the blockade I received today.
P.S Sorry for any misquotes or things I missed and not more replies. Finger is getting sore from replying on my phone lolAnd now I'm responsible for all of these destroy money ops too? Why does Stevie still blame me after you said in our private discussions the Avengers don't think its me? Hes the leader so that can't be true. I know he'll blame me for everything and anything but that isn't going to stop your nations from getting spied. if you want my advice, start defending your nations from all spy attacks.
Also if you really think its not me, can you put a muzzle on your pom pom shaking Chihuahua otherwise known as BG or is this the Avengers spokesperson? He obviously has great interest in Avengers and he likes to accuse others of using multis. It doesn't take a scientist to put those 2 things together and figure out whats going on.
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There's my princess, glad to see you could grace us with your righteous words!
Yes, yes you are responsible! Except you were not able to get your buddy/multi into my alliance! But I know how badly you wanted to pull it off just to sit there and flip things onto us. You just couldn't handle it anymore as the wait was killing you, so you just spied as a pending member hoping that might get by. It didn't work!
What are you talking about? There is no contradiction in my thoughts of this war or in any of my post about this war. I've ment everything I've said and said it exactly in the order and how I wanted to say it. But I'm glad you've taken interest in my thoughts and post about it though....I knew you were lying about not reading my post :) oh and I'd be careful who you call dumb for following me, your biting off more than you can chew there ;) besides don't be jello us that you can't get anyone to follow you :P
Paranoid, lol! That did make me chuckle. But I don't blame you for everyone's misfourtune, for instance I didn't blame you for NM inability to build, that you graciously pointed out yet still seem to allude the fact that this war is not much more than a witch hunt for TA. I only blame you for your pathetic despicable actions which include dirty spy ops, alliance spying, nation planting, and lying!
That's just it DT, you have never posted any spy ops against Fata1 or TPC, nothing but you saying it happened. That's odd because your the very first person to post everyone else's business, messages and what not. So where is this proof? At the very least you could post where they told you they were spied, if that even really happened! Also your right none have posted to deny it, but at the same time if they are even reading these post, they also see I call BS on you and aren't backing you either. Your always saying show proof or STFU, well now I'm calling you out on the same thing!
Avengers are not the only alliance that see IRS ops as dirty, there are several others as well....TDO, TPC, NDO, RE and so on! There have been many people posting in various post from each of those alliances and more that agree.
Here you go, just more proof that YOU are behind TA's dirty spy ops!
The more you open your mouth the more you put your foot in it ;)
Your turn baby girl
BGThese large walls of BS you keep posting get more and more desperate with every new post. You're trying so hard its just hilarious but keep trying noob. Your time will come too.
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Lets just make this a world war and see where we all stand.
How did i miss this gold.
I like this idea but then again i don't want TE to turn into SE but I'm pretty confident in saying the victors will be the side TPC/OP decides to join. If anyone has been moving in this direction, its the Avengers with their coordination with other alliances. I've informed everyone what they're capable of from the inside and its not hard to put it together from the outside.
I said it before and I'll say it again, don't play this game because you won't win against all of the veteran alliances. The new alliances are those trying to create blocks. Avengers showed this to everyone when they had all of AOW top nations help them against TPC/OP last round.
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Its not that it was a harmless comment just dont single people out. It makes it look like you have a personal grudge against them. I dont know about you but my calculator of who I want to roll resets every round because thats how it should be in TE.
You're the one who said it was early so who else was i suppose to address? We've had wars on day 8-9 before and i don't recall anyone complaining about those being early too, if you guys want to say "this is early", at least be consistent.
Didn't the Avengers hit someone on day 8-9 about 2 rounds ago? I wasn't singling you out as a personal grudge. I have no grudge against you, you attack me with words so i respond.
Wars are allowed as soon as the game allows it. In first round wars I'm sure most will agree that stats aren't that important. Of all people, DD and WH know this, who recalls the "Money vs Nukes war". It was a first round war and this could be said for this war except its stats vs money. Avengers have bank rolls, why don't they use it instead of complaining about it being a down declare. You have more nations on your side, you all started with 10 mill so unless admin has it out for Avengers, he must have given them disadvantages, or i don't see any problem. As for getting combined with an alliance you'd rather not have been combined with, Avengers ask yourself the same thing when you did it to many alliances last round, and the round before that. You're the biggest opportunist alliance out there and everyone knows it.
I have nothing against those who hold no grudges but not everyone will move on like nothing happened, we all know what OP's motto is, "God forgives, not OP". I know from experience that War Dove are an alliance that doesn't forgive either and i see nothing wrong with that, the Warriors/Misfits vs OP/WD saga went for awhile. How long did the TPC vs OP war wage on for while everyone else stood back and watched two of the most powerful and elite alliances consistently smash each other round after round. TE has been built on grudge wars and the knowledge of the game has advanced because of it.
In the case of the Avengers, let them complain, they've done far worst to others and we all knew they'd cry foul play once the same happened to them. "And you will reap what you sow." - StevieG
Look whose reaping now.
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I'm not government. I didn't conspire anything against you. I got my target list 5 minutes before update if you couldn't tell by my abysmal blitz. I didn't even know we were attacking that night. You can keep addressing me like I still represent WD, but I don't. I'm just a member who came back for one last round with zero responsibilities. So there's no need to threaten me with what you're going to do to me next round. I won't be here.
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I'm not upset that the above happened. But if we agreed to a friendly war and your guys are going to hit me with them, then you'd have to expect that I'd retalliate. Stevie even responded to that post alluding to the fact that WD allegedly spied Avengers so the op I received was in retaliation. That was the only response I got from anybody in Avenger's camp. I assumed from the lack of response besides Stevie's that these ops were back on the table. Somebody from Avenger's should've contacted me saying the attack wasn't sanctioned if that were the case.
Edit: format was offI wouldn't have expected anything less from an old school player. :gun:
Avengers are trying to convince everyone that econ ops are dirty but in reality they're really bad for them. They wouldn't be so eager to wage as many wars as they have if their opponents were more willing to use them. This is the main reason why they're on this campaign to demonize econ ops as "dirty spy ops". They suffer a lot more than the average nation who uses them and then gets hit with them in retaliation. They want their wars to have nil econ ops so they can maximize their collections and continue to roll the next alliance who gets too strong. Don't be fooled by them or their minions in TDO. These two alliances are one of the same, they only have different names.
The purpose of econ ops is to stall your opponents post war rebuild. If you don't want to consistently get rolled by Avengers again, hit them with every econ op you can, they'll be less eager to try and roll you again.
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To Nightmare Movement :
Do not make the same mistake I made at the beginning of 2013... Go ahead Raise your people Up, and fight with all the might and the numbers allows you to do it... And keep an eye on the rest of TE, since they are obviously keeping theirs on you... Have Fun and a blasting TE adventure...! :popcorn: :nuke: :excl:
You could take some of the games most experienced leaders and have them manage NM, but it'd still be a nightmare. If they're truly serious about playing TE, they should have started their TE journey in a more established alliance. IMO, most of them just want to have some fun blowing stuff up and then they'll leave when they lose interest or their nations are too weak to put up a decent fight.
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Sure! Wait what? How do you know there was 5 alliances spied? I thought TA got spied from one of your "approved members" Then TA spied back.....I did see that DT said Fata1 got spied but as of yet have seen no proof, (like you and everyone else has posted) and also DT said TPC got spied, again no proof. I'm thinking DT might have falsified information.
Now to the point on hand, DT or someone for DT made a nation and tried to plant them into our alliance for the purpose of spying. After gathering info, this planted nation was to spy one of the avengers in an attempt to discredit TDO. Why? Because DT knows I'm right about her and this is an attempt to throw the truth off, but mostly just to have BS to say about, that a nation in TDO doing the same thing that a nation in Misfits did.
What DT didn't take into account is that 95% of our members are all known in some way by one person or the other, or a combination of multiple people. Also that we just don't approve everyone that applies to our alliance.
I don't hear any complaining, he is just stating the facts....There is a difference!
Yeah, you got that right "a war between vets (TA vs D1 and WD) and newbies (NM vs D1, WD and everyone else they raided like RE, Fist, and NLoN). Sure the numbers and stats line up, but everyone knows NM is full of noobs, probably 90% and the war scenes back that up. NM is taking a beating, and is hardly doing any damage at all. This is more less a huge raid on them, and the majority of D1 and WD elite players are focusing on TA. So this may not exactly be a down declare, but it definitely is a focused attempt to hurt TA.
Look at the stats prior to war, WD by them selves were a good match for TA, and the same goes for D1. Truth is neither alliance could take on TA by them selves with out being beat down, EVERYONE knows this! Thus the throwing in NM to make it look good.
I don't see anyone in TA complaining, the closes thing you can say is that SG is exposing the truth.
If the shoes were reversed, you can damn well bet you and several others would be on here screaming and crying about how terrible TA are and everything else. Yet another thing everyone knows!
I also don't see SG going around blaming everyone, matter of fact I distinctly ready that he and TA know who is behind it.
It's pretty much a fact that all veteran alliances know WAR prior to DAY 10 is not condoned, I recall a few alliances getting beat down last round because of it. The sad thing is, this has probably just opened Pandora's box. I know this, if I were TA I would attack the same alliances on the same day I was attacked for many rounds to come. TDO believes that alliances should have the ability to build properly with a minimum of 12 days prior to war, and we also believe a minimal of 10 days rebuilding after each war.
Everyone talks about getting numbers back up, and allowing the sovereignty of new alliances, well what do you think is going to happen to NM after this war, I'll bet they loose upwards of 20 nations or more due to people just plain quitting.
Has anyone noticed that numbers are even down from last round?
BGOh so i was responsible for another spy but this time in TDO? I sure have been busy.
I knew this is what you really thought of the war and not this http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/126558-wds-d1-declare-on-avengers-nightmare-movement/?p=3380528
I can't believe people take you serious and some are even dumb enough to follow you in an alliance.
Out of everyone in this thread that has said that you pick up my post and have some comeback already. Any reason? Or can I just get along and post a harmless comment like everyone else?
I know it was a harmless post and mine was as well, i was only stating some facts.
Yeah I know, and so was I :) I just started typing and thought this would be the perfect time to recap and point out that there was never any proof behind anyone else getting spied. I suspect that the reason is it never happened, just more fabrication from DT.
I also wanted to point out this petty act by DT of trying to get someone into TDO was pathetic to say the least, the second we saw it posted we knew who was behind it. Obviously we don't have the tools that admin does to to prove this, as if the IP address was even in the same state as DT's I'd have her war slots full till end round. Just the same she is not fooling anyone.
BGNo one cares what a paranoid freak thinks who goes out of his way to blame me for everyone's misfortunes in TE. Just because you repeat the same BS over and over, doesn't make it true. Your're only taking advantage of the situation so you can convince everyone to roll me because your hatred for me over takes any rational thinking, now you blame me at every turn. How do we know its not you doing it so you can blame me?
When you have proof then we'll all take you serious, until then do us all a favor and STFU!
Also why would i publicly post spy reports if they were false, that means the owners of those nations can see i stated it and none of them have posted to deny them and i see many TPC nations that come in here. You could easily see that Fatal was IRS spied because of his first collection, it was about the same as DD's who was also IRS spied and they both collected on the same day, Avengers knew that when they saw it. You'd know this if you weren't a noob pretending to know everything about this game.
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Re read it.
Adamah likely blockaded you to remove his own blockade. I myself had to blockade 3 nations to remove the majority of mine.
All I see that Samwise could possibly be retaliating against is 1 failed IRS op from one of our trade mules. Your accusation that we are running destroy money ops on you is baseless.
So does that make it alright then? You guys sure are good at punishing those who weren't responsible.
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Follow logic. A dozen IRS ops on us, then an IRS op from a misfit nation on one of the only ones not already IRSd. Whoever revenged IRSd you has my full blessing.
Continue on with walls of nothing please DT.
We do not have more nations with more money this round.
Down declaring suits you.
So if someone was to join, as an example, War Doves. It shouldn't be difficult, like most alliances you probably only have to fill in the application form and you'll be granted membership in-game. And now all i have to do is decom 49 spies and IRS spy multiple Avenger nations or even one and that will get War Doves government members mass IRS spied.
If this is your alliance policy then you're a potential danger to everyone. Without checks and balances why wouldn't people take advantage of this?
Anyway Stevie, you should focus on your current wars, we wouldn't want you getting more for some of these baseless accusations.
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This is all of WD's and D1's fault according to the leader of the alliance that constantly down declares, hits alliances while they're still trying to get their nations off the ground, has his friends in other alliances help him when his alliance has to fight a challenging war, declares war on other alliances already at war. I think you may have hit it right on the head, it is all WD's and D1's fault!
I on the other hand applaud both WD and D1 for working together and taking the fight to the Avengers for once and not wait around to pull all their early BS chess moves for the past 3 rounds. Looking at the Avengers, I say even with WD and D1's nations combined, you still have more nations with more cash, you easily have the most elite players in fact you seem to be amassing more and more every round, you have more activity and almost all of you are using temps and many donated. I'd say the Avengers have the advantage but your not worried about this war, you're in fact worried more about others growing while you get left behind.
Not this time Stevie, you can fool them once, twice and maybe three times, but you can't fool everyone all the time.
If you are denying an obvious irs against me from avengers for revenge then we might as well put a rock in front of your computer and remove you, it's obviously smarter
He is using the spy ops as an excuse to justify his complaints about the war. He has been accusing many people now, I heard Cowboy and he even messaged Fatal and blamed him for being responsible. People need to open their eyes and realize how big of a joke this guy is.
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Excellent temp traders definitely play a large role in our success. It would be much easier if we had three or four nations who were temped and all other nations sit in 3BRs. Several alliances do that. D1, Misfits, and TPC are examples of this method. What The Avengers have done to revolutionize the game is have our own nations (such as myself) be the temp traders for collections yet still build along with everyone else.
Not ideal but better than nothing and we've always known about it but whats the point when most of us just want to have some fun wars. We don't all necessarily want to utterly dominate everyone and win everything round after round. That might be good for you and your alliance but not so good for everyone else. Unfortunately many of us have very busy life's so we don't take all of this that serious.
Everyone to their own though.
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Isn't avengers the enemy? Why would you care if they got spied? Stop showing some class, cowboy, we dont want people to start to like you.
Clearly Stevie is throwing his tantrums at Cowboy.
Why did you leave out the good parts Cowboy? You know the parts where Stevie is crying for hitting him?
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We dont want peace. We want to fight, lol.
Declaring on the OWF? Or actually declaring in game and winning the war are a hell of a different thing sweety.
Go ahead and put the stats into NS tiers. And then try to proclaim this as an even war ;) To be fair you cant fight an even war against us or you would be wrecked.
Weve took about 15 of these from day 3 to day 6. Seing as you 2 are now attacking us we could now assume that it was you, in preparation for your attack.
Or maybe you have your own guys doing it to you so you can say "hey The Avengers are spying my IRS" :facepalm:
We have also been fielding numerous requests for treaties and various other pacts from a number of AAs. Surely we arent the only ones?
These guys are brand new and dont realise. Get over it. You are looking the fools for being so surprised.
At least the new AAs are rolling into TE and bringing some numbers with them.
I said that because you clearly seem to be more interested in complaining rather than warring.
Don't worry, I'll get my turn at war. You can count on that one, pumpkin. ;)
The way i see this war is a fight between vets and another between newbies/some experienced but still using newbie build methods.
Most of the wars with Avengers are 3 v 3 so i have no idea why you're complaining. The wars are even, you just turn into an emotional wreck and break down over the slightest thought of having to fight a challenging war. No one cares if you got spied, you IRS spied us remember and most likely D1 and TPC's top builders.
Seriously, you look like a fool going around blaming everyone for spying Avengers. You should let the other Avengers do all the talking on these forums, you do your alliance no favors.
Well this is early but meh have fun everyone
A day or 2 from the usual first wars isn't that early, this is a 60 day round, wars should be more frequent. I've seen wars start on day 9 and 10 in 90 days rounds.
This was agreed early on and was overlooked by DEFCON 1 and War Doves. We agreed to assist Nightmare Movement if war broke out. Since it was a joint declaration of war, there can be no complaints if two blocs form against each other. As the old saying goes, all is fair in love and war, and this sure as hell ain't love.
Go on make our day. :)
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Brand new AA. Half built completely wrong with nuke position not even set to default but plain wrong. This is how you pottentialy get rid of new nations who will be screwed from a day 10 war through some vendetta against us and a desire to make the war even in numbers.The Avengers will be fine for the most part even after your clear irs stunt.
Id have rather either D1 or WD hit us 1v1.
Stats are irrelevant.
Maybe do it like last round and have 1 AA attack a day or two before the other? Dont try to pretend like we havent been against odds before. And we fought WD/D1 plus the remnants on tpc/re/mmisfits. Already being at war for 5 or so days takes its toll when presented with 40 odd fresh nations.
AoW did not back us up for that war.
We also have the record up declare in our first round when you were with us babe :)Lets not bring this irs bs in here, we already have a 5 page thread for it.
Its a friendly war, like Cowboy said, if you want peace then send it, I'm sure they'll allow NM nations a way out. These are honorable terms not many get given so quit complaining. Do you play TE to war or to complain?
I've seen alliances declare on everyone many times before, you can't beat those up declares.
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Samwise just burned all of you. I've only done 3 or 4 of those things.
I miss getting burned by Samwise. ^_^
Paul has been quiet for a while..... Just putting that out there :P
I've been trying to get Paul to play. He agrees he will and then i don't see him. :o
No, your not to blame....your just a conspirator, an instrumental precursor in a methodical plot to take out TA early on.
Your turn
BGYou still have no proof to back up your claims and I'm the last person Avengers need to worrying about.
You definitely have a lot of interest in Avengers than just being their friends, I wonder what it is.
I've had two RL friends make temps and start playing CN because they found the game interesting. As for donation selling, I don't think that will ever change. What makes it different from using a TE prize is money goes to the game and allows for upkeep and other inprovements, which is something I will never conplain about.
Its interesting to see how so many Avengers are able to temp trade. You guys clearly are running the most advanced and efficient temp trade program I've ever seen. Temps seem to be just as active as your members. It really is impressive.
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Updating stats is never a bad idea and i thought you were already doing a good job updating them. :P
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You mad Stevie?
No dirty spy ops, no nukes and you can have peace if it gets too hot in the kitchen. Your own member posted stats and they look pretty even to me. Why is it you always get upset when you have to fight a war where you don't have all of the best advantages such as massive war chest levels and more ANS?
Will you be calling some of your friends in now?
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So now I'm to blame for Avengers getting attacked by WD and D1? Seriously dude just shut up already.
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I just want to clarify that we had absolutely nothing to do with WD forums going down. If anyone here thinks that is an acceptable action to do over a game of pixels I am thoroughly disgusted and would resign in a heartbeat if I thought that anyone in my team had anything to do with it.
In fact my first response to it was ways to help prevent it and I will make a standing offer now that if they want assistance fixing it I'm happy to do so.
If anyone was WD wants to discuss this please please please let me know either on here, PM ingame, or on IRC.
As for the rest of this people will think what they want, but last round we managed to fight you guys and would have welcomed more of a challenge. Sabotaging opponents before anything even starts just ain't our way. Yea, we declare wars people don't agree with, but we do those up front and announce them.
And again I really can't fathom the logic that we would set up rogues to spy ourselves - I just had to collect on 23% and it was just a little bit !@#$ - and then use it as a way to set ourselves up for what, a valid CB? This is TE, a CB is barely needed - why would we cripple ourselves to set ourselves up? And you say we did it just to hit TPC and OP? No way would that ever be worth it. If we had it our way no such spy ops would even be possible at this stage - in fact I think I'll make a suggestion thread to exactly that point.
Out of interest if an avengers member had been caught doing a similar thing to you guys would you also not want an apology? It seems you'd be stating it is all a conspiracy and demanding that we be be held accountable for it. Especially as like DD said, we have no way of knowing who a veteran member is and who isn't.If the apology came from Avengers gov then we'd have to assume your position is to not only defend this member and their actions but keep them as a member. We'd take into consideration the apology and the reason for the attack, whether it was a mistake, we understand everyone makes mistakes. I'm sure it'd be dismissed with a good explanation and apology.
The other option is the one we carried out and it happens to be the most common option alliance leaders do, its common for unknown newbies to be instantly removed as most alliances state in their charters the rules and what happens if you break them. The newbies are kicked and that alone is a clear message we've condoned their actions by removing them from our AA, hes all yous! That speaks juts as loud as an apology to us, this isn't SE, you're playing TE now, we do things differently around here.
BG, I'm not even going to waste my time reading more of your BS lies and fairy tales!
Retaliate against everyone because we are getting unidentified spy ops, I don't even know what to say to that. We've already explained why the spy ops against yung flow happened and apologised for them, and the only other identified spy ops have come from rogues on None with a CIA. We have literally no idea who is behind this, same as you. Whoever are hitting us is more than likely the same people who are hitting TPC/D1, and could be responsible for the WDs forums DDoS, although that may be just a coincidence, but who knows at this point. All I know is that it isn't us, it isn't D1 and it isn't TPC, as we have all been targets of the spying, and more than likely isn't you guys otherwise D1 wouldn't have gotten spied, TDO otherwise we wouldn't have gotten spied or WDs since their forums are down. It could be anyone else in my opinion, but more than likely is someone who finds us three a threat, which leaves another pretty obvious candidate, but I won't go pointing fingers until there is actual evidence of this unlike you and half the people in this thread.
The thing is you don't know if its someone in your alliance or any alliance, it could be anyone and they may not even be competing for flags, they may be doing it for giggles and to cause havoc. Some people just want to watch the world burn. Chances are we'll never know who it is or they are unless they come out and confess, the best course of action now is to defend your nations like you're suppose to do. Build up so the nations spying have to build up to be in range to attack, the more NS you have, the more expensive it'll cost them to be in your range and IRS spy you. I will say this though and that is giving them not only their own thread for them to watch first hand all of the fighting going on over their actions but it will only encourage them to do it again unless rules are either changed or everyone has to break the bank notes early and begin defending your nations from day 1.
Does this problem need to be fixed by the admin? Most definitely. Its probably too late now this round but next round spying needs to be delayed for as long as declaring war is. That makes more sense.
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When you have proof it was me DD, then you'll have a case, until then, whats the point? I also have no proof it was you's but I will stop blaming Avengers when you stop blaming me and Misfits. How about instead of crying at innocent people, we get on with the round. I lost more cash than you but i wont let a small hurdle ruin my round and I'd rather not give the culprit the satisfaction of starting this but I'll leave that up to you's.
I may have been the most vocal against some of your actions so you not only think its me, i think you want it to be me. I've been the most vocal at every alliances action that i don't agree with and many can vouch for that, i don't discriminate unless you've done it to others. But you did know you've got half of the game against you and all of that was your own doing. That is a lot of enemies so don't pin any of this BS on me.
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i'm not pushing the issue, that was just an answer to your last comment for me, the issue is over, i'm glad it is, live and learn for next time. me commenting here does not reflect anything about TDO the reason i'm doing it is because i was Khal Drogo last round, and with that name i could only make jokes, because i couldn't take my self seriously arguing against you :D, that is why i'm commenting here, it has nothing to do the TDO, and i don't know the history between you and the other leaders, but i know that in all the wars i fought (4 wars) with AoW and FF dirty spy ops were not allowed. but as i said it is over, nothing will be gained from discussing it further, i just wanted to answer your last comment for me.
i really hope we end up waring against one another (don't care who wins, just hope to have fun doing it :) ). murdered by a boar is how the realm put it, but you know exactly what murdered robert (and no spoilers for end of 5th book please, i still have about 200 pages to finish its getting really exciting).
Don't worry , I'll hit you if we war TDO, i expect you'll do the same for me. :)
Murdered by a boar is exactly how that drunken fool usurper put it. :p
I would have just sent you a pm Nick but since you are posting every message I send to you in here I figured I would cut out the middleman.
You talk about the way I reacted when your guy got caught spying one of our members less than an hour after WarHammer and I got hit with 4 of the exact same spy ops but you don't talk about how you responded to the very first spy op you guys had done to you.
7 hours after my message to you you get hit with the irs op and the first thing you do minutes later is to do the same spy op to an Avengers nation.
Was an Avengers nation caught doing any dirty spy ops to any of your nations at that point?
1 spy op mission against 1 Misfits nations and you immediately do the same mission to one of our guys where as we had already had over a half dozen of our nations irs spied down to 23% when your guy was caught less than an hour after the last missions done to us and I am the one who was flying off the handle? Really?
And how in the hell are we supposed to know who in your alliance is a veteran member or someone that just joined you guys 10 minutes ago?
The names don't help a whole lot since you can change them at will every damn round.
Whether he was a veteran member or not of course you are going to boot him from the roster after he gets caught doing one of the worst spy ops you can do to any nation in this game, only worsened by the fact that the nations he hit had not even started to build or even did a single collection yet.
And DT your theory about the missions being done to any nations that were the top nations last round or what not holds absolutely no water as I have gotten messages from every ruler who did not even join the Avengers this round and were not even close to taking any awards or flags and all of them have had their irs spied also. 2 of them even have the CIA and still they were spied multiple times until the mission was a success.
I don't have a clue as to why they spied any members of any other alliances other than the Avengers but then again I only have you saying they did to back up the fact that they were even hit. Not saying they were not hit, just saying that your word means about nothing to me after reading the pages and pages of posts of you bashing the Avengers at every fricking turn. Even when we did some of the biggest up declare wars this game has ever saw you still bashed us.
I will admit that I no longer think that Nick - Kaboom knew about all of this happening since the very beginning of the round and that is a shame as the damage done to he and I's friendship is already done and is most likely beyond repair. That is probably the worst thing that came out of all this when I think back to all the times Nick has stayed at my house and all the things that he, myself and my 2 sons have done together.
I can still not fantom why he cannot see like everyone else that DT is the most likely culprit in all of this. That one eludes me.
We had no idea you were getting spied on a mass scale and why are you trying so hard to pass the blame on myself when a ruler named sgt stryker was the culprit? Can you not read exposed spy ops? A member of 1-2 days tops, granted membership after he agreed he'd follow our building lead and coordinate wars with us. Then there were 2 more exposed ops, am i behind them as well? You think i have lots of friends that play to spy others for me? Do you even realize how ridiculous your accusations sound?
Even now, one of our members was spied after he built up and before he could collect, but of course i must have spied him too right?
Fatal thinks Avengers spied him and so do TPC nations so do you really want to find out where most of the fingers are being pointed at? Blame me all you like but they all know it wasn't me. I heard a rumor that War Doves think Avengers are responsible for their forums going down. They can't prove it which is why they'd probably never accuse Avengers and I applaud people for that. Clearly not all of us have the will power to restrain ourselves from accusing people without any evidence. My point is you're not trusted, you're not respected and you have more reason than anyone to pull this crap.
You can all point your fingers at me but there are 5 times more pointing at you!
Anyone who really knows me, knows i don't operate like that and would never betray their confidence. You only see the DT who calls out all of the BS that goes on in the game and I've been doing it since i started playing. The real me is in-game helping others improve, and enjoying TE with friends.
It'd make perfect sense to use me as your scapegoat considering my past with Avengers. As to why I'd have a Misfit spy Avengers with minimal spies, i have no idea, it wouldn't make sense for me to set up Misfits when I'm actively helping Misfits, they can all vouch for this. Why the hell would i bother with helping them and trying to set them up to get rolled at the same time? I'd be also getting myself rolled, clearly according to Avengers, I'm the dumbest person in all of TE.
DD, you should start by growing up and quit blaming me without any proof or using stories that don't make any sense, after that have a good think about what rogues are capable of, you should know, you ran an alliance but i think you don't want to know that fact so you don't have to admit you wronged us. You're only fooling yourself here, i could gather statements of multiple leaders and i assure you that they'd all agree that their alliance should not be held accountable for the unauthorized actions of war from an individual member. Seriously, you screwed up, stop trying to blame myself or Misfits for it.
Most alliances would have considered your retaliation a CB for an immediate war, you IRS our leader who had nothing to do with the rogue and neither did any Misfit.
Either you think I'm that stupid to do something like that or you really are using myself as an excuse to push the blame to cover your own tracks. If you've been getting spied on a mass scale then it'd make sense for you to retaliate against everyone else who you oppose.
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I don't know why TDO feel so compelled to keep pushing the issue but it does raise suspicions. You're the only alliance not involved that has been trying to push the blame on myself and Misfits, you present absolutely zero proof in your accusations.
BG stated that my IRC friends are saying its me, I know this is a lie because the only two people i talk to on IRC have already confirmed its not true. Both of whom have never talked to BG on IRC. I wasn't t going to bother to defend myself against malicious lies, but since you're all trying so hard to make me look like I'm responsible, i will start exposing them for what they are. BG assumed i talked to many people on IRC so i wouldn't be able to pin point this friend and prove its a lie, you were wrong. If you have proof then show it here BG or STFU and GTFO with your BS already. Your hatred for me is why you'd resort to these malicious lies.
I've already explained our position regarding rouges and Robert the usurper is dead already, murdered by a boar. ^_^ Rhaegar will be revenged in the books, on the TV series and of course on CN:TE, mark my words. :gun: I think your own brother will suffice. :P
WD's & D1 Declare on Avengers & Nightmare Movement
in Tournament Edition Open World Forum
Posted · Edited by Daenerys Targaryen
Oh come on Avengers, no need to rage quit. :P
https://youtu.be/fdBrYfxSXWc?t=1m40s