Daenerys Targaryen
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Like i sad, i don't care who you nuked or who you spied, there were no rules after you dropped nukes on nations who had no chance of fighting back. You preach about fairness and scorn others for down declares but then you go and do the biggest down declare of them all.
Like i told you in-game, you would have only gotten complaints from me for the down declare but as soon as you dropped nukes, you got my nukes as well but luckily for your SDI, it wasn't as many as i had hoped.
From now on, you have no right to call others out for down declares and using dirty tactics. You're the example i will use for scale if others do it from now on.
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This is the 2nd time your leader has pulled the same stunt and left NM so i hope the 3rd leader isn't the same. For the record, the first leader ran to Avengers, yeah were watching everything you's do.
http://tournament.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=1000047
Check his wars, one is on Kaboom101 for obvious reasons, we saw this guy drop all trades so they wouldn't get traced back, he was an Avenger last round. This game of connecting the dots is fun. :)
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Lets just hope this is the last time you attack RE while they're at war.
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Come on, really? Says the guy who's posted several crappy statements in our War Dec, about TDO!
I think Misfits in general are ok peeps, but "YOUR" assessment of Misfits and TDO are just that of your opinion.
I have had countless messages from people that said,"Thank You" for putting things right again (summarized), and
few of those messages came from TA. So I'm guessing there are more people that agree that we stood up against
a bloc who IMO represented tyranny and havoc. You see many remember the days prior to TA when other alliances
like D1 and WD did exactly what they cried about TA was doing. Some have even said that once they got a taste of
their own medicine, they couldn't handle it.
I don't know for sure what happened in my 2-3 year break but apparently things were no better prior to TA.
Someone who is not biased and actually stands for fun, even, and competitive wars such as you claim, should be
happy to see TDO step up and put a stop to an unjust retaliation and Vendetta against TA. We would have done
the same for just about every alliance in the game.This ruined the start of the round, and more than likely even the
next few rounds. I mean where does it end? You think WD and D1 are not thinking vengeance? Hear DT tell it, yes
they are.....she even made as much of a statement that it would be next round that we see the retaliation against
us for standing up for what we believed was right. So what follows after that? TDO is just suppose to sit and
take it, a bloc on us? Hell no,I can tell you that for sure!
Something else I can say is, I didn't come in here running my mouth about how much of crappy war this
is with RE, like you did in our DoW.....and trust me I can point out some really good points to support this.
No in fact, I pretty much have bent over backwards to keep from doing just that and even as much to change
things up and not war you guys yet again. I have no problem taking criticism and neither does TDO, but your
accusation of TDO being the most disrespected in TE is just your opinion and maybe a few others who are
butt hurt about the fact we stopped a destructive force in TE that is most certainly ruining not only the game
but also forums and the morality of most people that play it!
It is just a game, sometimes you lose, sometimes you win, sometimes you do both.
The point being is to try and get better, and make some new friends along the way.
If nothing else, keep it fun and have good sportsmanship or say nothing at all.
BGThat was the first time D1 and WD's had gone to war together so quit with the lies about this block they have.
D1 and WD's gov have never complained about TA, you're pretending i represent both of those alliances but i don't so this is another lie.
I said D1 and WD's will come after TDO, and I'm sure of it, do i know that for certain? No, i have no idea but i know exactly how TE operates and how certain people in these alliances play. WD's and D1 aren't the only alliances that like to get one back, I've seen TPC, OP, Citadel, RE, and Misfits so more or less everyone, its not unusual. I've even seen TA themselves hit alliances that previously hit them.
TDO hit alliances that prior to this huge down declare had no issues with TDO and a down declare this big while using nukes on non-nuclear nations is one of the best ways to create a very strong grudge. I know WD's and D1 had settled their grudge with TA and i know TPC have as well, they can now all move on. TDO should not have involved themselves in all of that and it wasn't necessary.
You're full of the most BS propaganda to not only justify your actions but you're constantly trying to manipulate and lie to achieve your goals. You sweet talk many leaders in gov, you directly ask leaders if they are going to attack TDO, you lie to your enemies about not using nukes and then use them and we know half of your nations are voting for DD to win the senate flag so we know how close you's and that TA/TDO are the only alliances that have a block going on, i mean you attacked D1/WD's for them attacking Avengers, that is exactly how a block works. The only nations in TDO voting for Hellas are the Spartans, all of the multis you're harboring are voting for DD.
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Reading many of TDO's PM's to me in-game, its mostly complaints and trying to shift the blame towards me for everything that happened to D1/WD's. I'd only have expected Avenger members to post this and maybe 1 or 2 in TDO whom already were posting similar stuff with their nations.
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Obviously you've been around for awhile because i haven't referred to Kurdanak for anything for at least 3-4 rounds now. I was also quite surprised to find that many of you seem to be just as update active as many of Avengers members. A war between you's would be interesting.
I think me and Kurdanak had more in-game gif wars than actual wars.
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"i could care less about donations to SE and i could care less if my nations gets obliterated or if i get econ spy ops."
This is why you'll enjoy this game far more than them that do care about all that stuff.
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Fairly sure you've supported a down-declare, more specifically, every single down-declare Avengers did while you were in Avengers. I mean, I see the point on that one, but don't pretend you've never supported them. But, that's besides your point, in fact, that is just my attitude to this war on your side.
Wasn't talking about my time in Avengers. Round 33, I was a top tier nation, Round 34, I was bottom-mid tier and managed to hold my own. This round, well, I reckon I held my own against almost all of my opponents that declared on me, with exception to fatal. I was making reference to my first two rounds, as well as other games. Just saying I've experienced a lot of beatdowns before, and I expect a lot more to come :)
Lol, I didn't cherrypick them, I just did what I did for the last two wars I did them on, but if I do them again, I'll be sure to include them if they aren't included :)
And if no one cares, then no harm done to me. I will continue to do them, whether people care or not :)
Again let me repeat this since you still seem to be confused by this position I've followed throughout all my rounds in TE, i support equal down declares on those who do it to others and even more from those who were the victims of it.
Avengers didn't have to face these odds against WD/D1, you didn't have to deal with nukes at all and the tiers weren't this loop sided. Maybe you're just inexperienced so you can get a past for not including the most significant stats. It screamed complete bias when all you've been doing is defending TDO, in fact many of Avengers have been but no one else?
People do care which is why I called you out on your stat posting.
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I'm sure it was relevant, I just didn't include all of it as I was posting them because TDO either forgot to put them up or didn't include them and I forgot to put up nukes and didn't have tier-breakdowns.
Yes, yes they were, however, (excluding nukes) so were our beatdown's. You're saying here that if a down-declare is on an alliance you don't like, it's fair, but if it's on one you do like, it's absolutely unacceptable. Hypocrisy \o/
I don't know where you getting on this sentence. I never mentioned they used 25% of their nukes. At all.
I haven't complained about our beatdowns. Ever. Just more casualties right :P
My history has been full of beatdown's against my alliance anyway. In fact, my time in the Avengers is the longest time I've spent in an alliance in any nation sim without it being beatdown lol. I'm so used to them by now.
It's likely they'll have their own stats that time. And if they don't, I'll still have the same stats, probably add in nukes. Why? Because I do this from the Display All Alliances screen at update (or did, RL's prevented me from having the time to do this unfortunately). Does the Display All Alliances screen have tier breakdowns. No. So will I include those. No. It's up to the alliance declaring to sort that out.
How many more times i have to say this but if you're down declaring others then don't expect me to cry foul play when others do it to you.
Avengers have been beaten down once so I'm guessing you just joined Avengers, Das even said they were undefeated prior to the D1/WD's war and i agree. If you've been a bottom tier nation then you probably got beat down quite a few times, they don't seem to care about their bottom tiers, only when their top tier is getting rolled do they care and pursue an early peace agreement.
And i know you weren't the one that stated TDO only used 25% of their nukes. But seriously, no one cares about your stats, you cherry picked all the stats that made the war look even. Do you think most of us just started playing this game and we don't know any better?
Best to keep it honest on the forums, too many people know exactly how this game/politics/propaganda works but most will never point it out or speak up. You'll only make yourself look bad by being dishonest and bias towards friends by cherry picking stats. Don't do the dirty work for others.
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So now I'm a part of TDO :P
The nukes are my fault, I always forget to put them in there, but I just did update stats from the display all alliances screen. Last I checked, the tier breakdown isn't a part of that screen :P
They didn't show stats at all but you showed the stats that were irrelevant in this war. TDO's two major advantages were the tier break downs and nuke count. Its irrelevant whether or not they only used 25% of their nukes, because those nukes were used on nations that TDO only hjad to use them on as they were putting up a fight.
Basically if you endorse this down declare then you shouldn't complain when it happens to you. Also I'll bet you wont miss the important stats when you're the alliance getting unfairly rolled.
One of the nations that attacked you made a far bigger up declare than you ever have, did so at like 1,800 infra to your 2,200 infra (at the time), your bigger AF and bigger navel that keep doing block aids (which is why I gave some to Fatal) and one attacked you right around your infra. And yes, your right....you attacked to nations a bit bigger than you with you having a Tax collection from that day and again before you were nuked. You entered the war 2 days later after we were already waring several nations during those 2 days. You also forgot to mention that Fatal hit those same 2 nations you hit which gave you the 1vs1 odds and me and GC the 1 vs 5 odds. So don't act like you came at me all brave, posting on here like you were going to beat me and GC down when you had all the advantages in this war over both us. Those 2 nations that hit you only gave "you" odds a bit closer to mine. You fighting 4 nation, me fighting 5.
Let me also point out that I did more damage to you then any other nation hitting you, and you didn't do shiat to me in comparison! Also I could have had that last slot of your filled and I didn't, God knows that if I took your better odds away from you and gave you my same battle odds that you would have really cried, so no I didn't get all the help I could have. ;)
The war is over, you had your rear handed to you, it happens get over it!
Yes, they did! Obviously I can't prove some of what happened cause they were not caught, but process of elimination Says they did. Unless someone from your side was doing dirty ops on people they were not even at war with. Oh wait, that was you! You were the one doing dirty ops to nations you were at war with, and ones you were not.
Even though some ops were not caught, it was believed Fata1 had his hand in them as well as you. But you getting caught doing them to people you and he both attacked, that's what got Fatal hit by nukes. Here's some proof;
Message:
-----Original Message-----
From: Daenerys Targaryen
Date: 5/4/2015 1:27:09 AM
Subject: Spy Operation Attack
Body: A spy operation has been launched against your nation. In the attack the enemy spies targeted your federal reserves and managed to destroy $1,000,000.00 money. In the attack your counter spies managed to kill 20 enemy spies and your attackers identity has been publicly revealed.
So he can thank you for the nuke that GC gave him, I didn't one time do ops on him and he nuked me (cause you couldn't) :P And unfortunately you spying other people with dirty ops is what got CB nuked.....so yes all got what they had coming to them if for no other reason because of you. Pat your self on the back!
You know what's really screwed up? The fact that after the first few you did you were warned that your actions would cause other nations to get nuked and your reply was "I don't care, I'm going to do all the damage I can". I'm more than happy to post those messages, lie about it and I will.No wonder D1 nations are stating to not like DT.
DT, let me wish you good luck rebuilding, I mean that!
BGTDO are just full of excuses, I've looked over everything already, first a nuclear ceasefire was agreed, many D1 nations bought Pentagons since this was agreed and they were advised too, then TDO does a complete u-turn and changes the full ceasefire to a limited ceasefire because TDO nations are getting dirty spy ops and there was no evidence it came from D1 members, not to mention whether or not it was true or complete lies to use nukes. You're scum and so are the rest of these TDO leaders.
I don't care if i was caught doing econ ops, i said this earlier, you'll know its me if I'm running these ops. You started this dirty war, i was just playing by the same rules. Go and tell the world what i said, D1 nations knew they would get rolled anyway, you already started dropping nukes way before i joined the war and you were only looking for the first excuse to drop nukes on fatal as me and him were coordinating against you.
Like i said, if you hadn't nuked nations without nukes while having every statistical advantage over them, i wouldn't have told D1 to approve my membership.
The foundation of peace has been settled. Cazaric espiring leader of TDO has accepted D1 approach on peace. Peace will be one day early update 5/5/15. No further attacks or dirty words allowed! :huh:The TDO declare was fair, plently of time between wars and a surprise. The staggerd nukes help all involve, mushrooms did make a few glow. All in all it was a good war, certainly could have been worse.The Dark Order DoW vs D1 & WD's peace out at update tonight May 5,2015.Cowboy, go home you're drunk. :p
Funny how every war TDO has involves them taking little to no damage. Shows a lot about their declares
Another alliance that doesn't play TE for an actual fight.
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So you only nuked nations that used dirty spy ops? I already know this to be a lie and you do too. Both of their leaders Cowboy and Fatal never used dirty spy ops and both were nuked. Are you going to lie about that too?
RE is half the size of both D1 and WD's, they should be careful about telling others to beat them down. That is not what a smart member of RE would say, its actually some good advice.
You needed all the back up you could get, i make 2 up-declares, you still get 2 down declares on me. Absolute cowards!
I don't run anyone, i just know how TE works and i know how D1/WD's operate when they've been unfairly and cowardly attacked. Asking everyone to give them 15 days doesn't mean anything. After all the damage you've caused with superior nukes and more nations in the top tier, they will likely get that anyway before someone attacks, unless someone else makes a massive down declare on them. It doesn't mean you'll see them this round either.
You had the easiest war I've ever seen, by far. There is a reason why you's cheery picked stats. You couldn't even show the nukes let alone the tier break down.
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Also I'm sure you'll be seeing a lot of references back to this war when BG and TDO call out others for others down declaring and using unfair tactics. This war should go straight into the hall of fame for biggest down declare ever and not surprising Avengers have been doing nothing but supporting it.
Their heroic leaders:
Cazaric
BG
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????Yeah who cares.
Sponsored by Avengers.
What i find amusing though is the fact that many people get upset over these tactics (most of whom are alliance leaders) yet you think its only me because i speak out against all of it on the OWF. Sure, keep thinking its just me, I told the Avengers this and I'll tell TDO, I'm the least of your worries. I'll just sit back and watch the fireworks when it starts. Probably reference back to this war. ;)
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First real war? Lol, get out. My statement about quitting was not about getting hit, by the way. It's about the community, the hate filled messages I have received, and all the rogues.
http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/126596-heavy-is-the-head-that-wears-the-crown-a-tpc-dow/ (first one to reference Avengers down-declaring on TPC or ANY other prior war)
I didn't even have to look further.
You sure are trying hard about the down declaring reference but keep trying as if its going to achieve anything. You should tell Stevie to stop going into threads and complaining if you didn't want me complaining about his complaints. If i recall right, wasn't he the one that said he plays to fight. A change of tune when the the boot is on the other foot.
On the bright side, at least you weren't hit by an alliance with 10 MP's/+40 nukes and used on you while you had none.
I don't think that's what they are !@#$%*ing about- This round has been dumb. Avengers were getting dirty spy ops by nations created to simply ruin their round.
I'm all for war and destruction (as I just ate my first nuke today)- but creating nations just for the shear purpose of dirty opping and then coordinating dog piles on avengers is just poor taste
if you want to beat them so bad- than do so like alliances do all the other rounds- the immature call-outs and unethical spy rogues and the "treatying" and "bloc" garbage is just that.
I hope TDO beats the hell out of Defcon and WDs
It wasn't just Avengers getting spied and D1/WD's didn't need to resort to dirty spy ops to beat them, these dirty tactics only took some of the credit from their efforts. Sure some Avengers would have had an extra 5 mill but most of them still had +20 mill prior to the war and they sat on big piles of cash while Stevie pursued an early peace. TDO on the other hand, refused a nuclear ceasefire when they were sitting on +40 nukes and 10 MP's while WD's/D1 had 0 nukes and MP's. D1/WD on the other hand have a long history of not using nukes on opponents with no MP's, and D1 have always offered an early peace to their opponents if they feel they need it, D1 and WD's aren't out to completely destroy nations and alliances and cause people to leave the game like TDO have been trying very hard to do in this war but i think they may make an exception for TDO in the future.
The result of that war would have been the same except Avengers would have finished that war with more cash, this is how i know WD's and D1 aren't behind it, and their leaders aren't the type of people that would use these dirty tactics. Those responsible are likely flag runners or a disgruntled person wanting to get some form of revenge but its more likely to be a flag runner creating advantages, probably someone who temp trades but isn't a very good builder so he made sure all of last rounds top earners were penalized early with dirty ops.
If we look at all the alliances Avengers had unfairly rolled and would have reason to retaliate, no one has taken the brute of it more so than TPC, WD's and OP, if the culprit is from either of these alliances, why didn't they happen 2-3 rounds ago when they received very similar treatment from Avengers. At the end of the day it could be anyone, even if you caught a nation, they're highly likely to be using multis so they don't care if they get caught, they're throw away accounts. I recall about halfway through last round, the total amount of nations was around the early to mid 300's, as of now we have 425 nations but i could be wrong on my estimate of last round. Someone might be able to correct that.
Also I'd be careful about telling others to beat down WD's/D1, i mean, you're only in RE.
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To paraphrase the great DT: I know many people who feel strongly against xyz, they just don't come on the owf.
Also, we never got "rolled". We handled ourselves with D1 and WDs without blowing too much cash, and then stayed even with TPC. We may have actually out-damaged them. You're also completely missing Blacklight's point. Come back when you grasp it.
Finally, I think it's kind of ironic that you're reprimanding a person bringing up another war in a thread which isn't about that war. I think you've either brought up a past Avengers war or implied our past "underhanded tactics" in nearly every thread.
The facts are you complained and said you'd quit over your first real war, you made it sound like you got rolled. I don't class a rolling as getting completely destroyed, far from it. I never said you got rolled by TPC, because you didn't, that was obvious. You fought far better and against greater odds, everyone knows you have the best coordinated war alliance and you proved that once again.
We know how close you's are with TDO just by observing the trade circles alone in our intel reports and you're trying to pretend WD/D1/TPC have a block. Its more like Avengers/TDO have a block but keep pretending you'll fight each other and i don't need to grasp manipulated and bias BS coming from anyone on your side.
Go back to those threads and show me that i was the person who FIRST bought up these previous wars.
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And here we have another TDO that feels extremely bitter about the Avenegrs getting rolled for the first time ever. Its almost as if you's are in there as well, I don't see anyone else caring.
Alliances get rolled all the time but as soon as Avengers actually have to fight a real challenge for once without having the major advantages they're use too, they complain and told everyone they wold rage quit and you're calling WD/D1 flag runners? D1 have one nation that is capable of winning flags who i already know doesn't consider that priority. WD's might have flag chasers but none that are capable, this is just an excuse your using to justify your own down declare.
I like the irrelevant stats you're showing for the D1/WD vsTDO war.
This thread isn't for any other war, if you had something to say you should have said it there and then.
There are no blocs, only alliance coming together to help keep the playing field equal.
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Its amazing how well these nations already know the game and you don't play SE. You have a total of 19 post so I'd assume you're also new? I suppose if you're bringing new nations into TE, that's a good thing right?
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Hia sweetness! I do love our little talks and walks in the park :)
However I do hate when you lie and we fight. It's just not worth it baby girl *BG blinks, blinks *
So please stop your BS now, stop the crying and complaining and telling lies.
Also, could you explain to me and the rest of TE what "every major advantage" TDO has?
I'll give you the first one, nukes :) but now you have helped them, and several other nations in D1 have them
and even one nation had a MP when we attacked. You guys also have SDI's to help against those nukes.
Now your turn, what's the rest? It's definitely not numbers as that side has 18 more nations that US.
While your at it explaining things, please explain why it's ok for you and your side to do everything
You have berated and scrutinized TA for, and now US? Everything!
Thank you most honorable and moral person that has ever gifted us with your presence in TE.
Your most humble noob :)
BG
Your turn player!Infra levels/soldier count, tech levels/air-fighter levels, naval vessels, CIA's, ANS levels and of course nukes which you've been so good at using against non-nuclear nations yourself.
The only thing they have is more nations in the bottom tiers which doesn't help with anything.
Keep trying my little princess.
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No, we don't order and ask other alliances to attack. That would be your "coalition". You still have much more NS than TDO and are winning this war, so there really isn't anything to complain about.
This is the rubbish you guys keep spewing to justify your own down declares, more NS is because they have more members but that does not make them the stronger side so quit lying out of your teeth about not knowing this.
Do show me how D1/WD's are winning? TDO have every major advantage, they're taking very minimal losses and going by the war chest levels we've seen, they can't afford heavy losses so they waged one of the softest wars on record to cover themselves.
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These are the types of wars that make TE fair and fun for both warring sides.
Good luck everyone!
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Then why didn't you oppose WD&D1 attacking NM (forget about avengers here) just NM on the 8th day of the round? that was an unfair down declare and i did not see you doing anything to oppose it or stop it.
well said :D but i'm sure there are somethings you don't know, i just really don't like inaccuracy :D
If you had noticed all of D1/WD's vets were fighting all of Avengers vets.
The inexperienced and bottom tiers fought NM, not to mention NM was all over the place, almost all of their TC's were incomplete. NM had some statistical advantages such as high tech, infra levels and high leveled aircraft fighters but they had no war chest levels and it looked like many of them bill locked themselves. This is not the fault of D1/WD's who were more organized, better trained and fought together.
This war is nothing in comparison to that war. This isn't about bad organization on D1/WD's part, its that they have every statistical advantage stacked against them. You're desperation to justify your down declare and to make me look like a hypocrite is showing though, keep trying..
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No amount of BS you's post is going to change that fact that i don't just talk about trying to keep TE fair like yourselves, I will put action into opposing those who are making efforts to do the opposite even if that means my nation burns in the process. You made a massive down declare avoiding stronger alliances that hadn't yet warred and to rub salt in the wound, you also used nukes on non-nuclear nations. This is the worst war I've ever seen and it was started by those who are preaching about fairness.
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Its funny how you sound just like BG. We know whats going on in TDO, your not fooling us and yes we've been watching closely.
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Down declaring noobs that use nukes against non-nuclear nations deserve far worst and it'll come one day. If you want to exact revenge for D1/WD's rolling Avengers so be it but don't complain when it comes back around.
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No one can take way the fact that Citadel do their best to play fair and I'd expect everyone else to treat Citadel in the same manner which i think you'll find that others do. Just because we almost never agree on anything, does not mean I want to attack you in-game. While i look forward to that fight, i will wait until our paths cross without any direct influence from me. If i get to choose my own target and our NS levels are similar, of course i will and i expect you to do the same.
But to be honest, i don't exactly spend all day dreaming about that war, not at all really. TE to me is a team game, not an individual game so i do everything for my team, regardless of my own personal ambitions.
RE - NM
in Tournament Edition Open World Forum
Posted · Edited by Daenerys Targaryen
I know hes not connected with you's, they have their own agenda, also we're not watching NV, you's are fine, just keep it fair, play TE like its suppose to be played. We're watching specific members in NM all of whom were Avengers last round.