Daenerys Targaryen
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i would like to say sumthing,
you kidz r just jealous that the avengers are better at you at everything. Better builders and better fighters (with a few exceptions like me, fatality, and a few others). So yall spy, gang bang, rape, and declare errday cause YOU ARE SCARED TO FACE THEM IN A REAL BATTLE. You are such !@#$%*^.
Are you trying out for the Avenger cheer squad?
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Lol, this isn't the first time I've been in an alliance rolled by TPC, and D1 was a cakewalk, only Fatal outdamaged in that war, and I was down-declared by three nations twice my size :P
I'm not a builder, I'm a fighter. I don't care if my precious temporary pixels get destroyed, that's part of the fun for me.
My point is, if I'm wrong then why is it you's that are getting rolled by multiple alliances? None of you want to admit to any wrong doings so these alliances that are managed by probably the most honorable people in TE, are doing it just for fun? There are reasons behind the declarations and all of them felt they had been wronged by you's which is a nice way to say it.
I haven't played for the last 2 rounds so what dirty tactics have i been using exactly? You really think making me out to be the bad person is going to prevent these alliances from coming after you? I'd say it has the opposite effect because you're really only insulting them by denying the truth.
Saved. Il edit this post when I have the time to be bothered digging through old logs/threads, and once again using facts to back up my claims.
You are 100% wrong. And I will outline point by point how.
I look forward to seeing these manipulated copy/paste jobs you've been good at presenting as your evidence in the past.
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And for the record Stevie used his winnings to donate for 5 of us in the alliance, including yours truly, Das, Tim, DD and either The Vision or Logan X if memory serves me correct. (correct me on this one if I am wrong guys) Yeah that is truly a man who is playing for nothing but SE donations isn't it?
But this only confirms what i said, your funneling donations to SE nations in return for TE donations.
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So... you're right and everyone else is wrong? lol k
Say what you want but I'm not the one getting rolled by multiple alliances.
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I think Stevie would rather have her complaining in the forum :D man you wronged some pretty messed up girls :D
DT, it seems to me that you only complain about down declares if the avengers are doing it, but if people are doing it to the avengers you cheer that.
and please don't use the media article key words crap like "Many consider" which is equivalent to "some people say" "experts believe" and means nothing.
you want me to draw conclusion about what you say you'll have to use numbers, exactly how many people consider...?
You are 100% right and I've stated this many times, I don't discriminate unless you do it to others.
Why are they allowed to down declare alliances but when it happens to them, they complain about it? This is the same concept as using econ ops and having those ops returned and them complaining bout you doing it back. You all have your morals wrong, i don't and i stand by those morals anyday and everyday. Go back to the old threads where we had these dramas with OP/WD's , even then i held the same beliefs and stated it many times over.
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being an un-biased 3rd party in this matter, isn't it a little &$(#*$ up that TPC is hitting Avengers after they literally just fought against 2 other alliances and also receiving controversial dirty spy ops?
it's a little ridiculous. I'd rather see the community 'copy' avengers for their ability to grow so fast rather than 'punish' them for going the extra mile.
Yes, I get it, everyone wants to batter them into submission for winning the last few rounds- but at the same time- they are quite ethical. I remember fighting an avengers nation last round and he hit after peace was negotiated- and rather than being a $*)#_ about it, he apologized and offered to donate to my nation.
So anyway- I hope Avengers prevails- TPC has never done anything anyway (expect pretend they hold relevance)
Its not so much for winning but for how they're winning.
Many consider their unconventional tactics underhanded and immoral to achieve these round wins. If you watched them closely, their early wars are very calculating, because they mass donate/temp, they're able to use this economic advantage to stall others still trying to get their nations off the ground so they can't offer Avengers a real fight later. They know they can never hold down a full strength, TPC, WD, and OP at the same time so they shut them down early.
When i was an Avengers, we hit WD's with nukes while they had nil MP's and nil SDI's, and after they bought wonders so they really couldn't do anything even with double our nation count, i believe they use this war as an example of their biggest up-declare ever. This is an inside example of how calculating and underhanded Avengers operate.
Their words don't mean anything if their actions contradict their words.
They play all the cards when it suits them, the pity cards, the rage quitting cards, you name it but like i said, its the actions that matter the most to everyone and its the actions of their alliance, not on a individual level, no matter how many charities they donated too , only the alliance matters at the end of the day.
They had 3 rounds before anyone did anything about the same BS they pulled in all of those 3 rounds. They cried about they were going to wait this time but only after D1/WD rolled them.
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What is wrong with you? You used to be an Avenger.
Did Stevie sleep with you and never call or something? I ask as I have only seen this level of hate and revenge seeking before from a woman scorned.
And I 100% agree with Stevie about how you just make shiat up to suit whatever story you are telling atm.
I remember the war you are talking about with TPC and I also remember how 5 of our top guys (including myself) never declared on a single TPC nation due to orders from DD (man is he regretting that decision now) as he had quite a bit of respect for TPC and their leader. (hell he might still have it but after this stunt I really can't see how)
How is it that someone such as yourself that notices every crap that an Avenger takes does not remember those facts about that war? Is it because it would make that war seem a hell of a lot fairer than this one that you leave out those facts?
And before you keep on spreading your lies and BS about Stevie and what you claim the Avengers are all about just know that I still have all 5 of my donations.
Put $150.00 in my PayPal account and I will have all 5 of them applied to your SE nation.
And for the record Stevie used his winnings to donate for 5 of us in the alliance, including yours truly, Das, Tim, DD and either The Vision or Logan X if memory serves me correct. (correct me on this one if I am wrong guys) Yeah that is truly a man who is playing for nothing but SE donations isn't it?
btw I am sorry for posting DD as I have refrained from even reading the OWF for over a month now but I just wanted to see how TPC was spinning this attack on us and I really just wanted to see if there was any mention if this conflict is going nuclear or not before update rolls around and everyone but us starts buying up MPs and nukes.
And instead all I see is DT spreading her lies and BS in here just like she has in EVERY fricking thread that even mentions the Avengers.
I can't be the only person in TE that is tired of seeing her wall of texts in every damn thread with our name in it am I?
Just give it a break will you Daenerys Targaryen?
If you hate Stevie so much then just go over to his house and shoot through his windows like every girl I have ever wronged has done to me and quit the damn hate posting like a crazy love scorned biotch. :gun: :lol1:
It is truly getting old my dear. nuff said
Lets not pretend i was only addressing Stevie, I was addressing Avengers which means all of you in every one of my post so quit with the BS your spouting about some obsession with Stevie. Stevie was once again the first to complain, i started by addressing that complaint.
Just because you didn't use 5 of your top nations against TPC does not change the fact you rolled them while taking minimal damage. Do you really think people are going to fall for this BS, and of all alliances, TPC? The reality is you's didn't need to commit anymore resources towards TPC because you already had your foot on their throats and your hit on them while they had minimal defenses up and low war chest levels was intended to stall their growth so you wouldn't have to fight a competitive TPC later. You've been doing this to TPC, WD and OP every round since your founding, you don't play TE for fair wars, you play to dominate everyone before they can grow enough to compete against Avengers so it makes winning everything very easy.You can pretend this is not what Avengers are about all you want but many on this side see it exactly like that.
You think you can play everyone for a fool and get way with this by posting BS on the forums to justify those actions and accuse anyone calling it out to be liars, then you're only fooling yourselves.
Proof?
Seriously, the only person who's saying they were hit by econ spy ops is you. Do you have any evidence of this other than "I heard this happened from another player". Any spy report logs? Anything? If not, I'm just going to assume that this is BS from you :)
But anyway, I wouldn't be surprised that you all would be so occupied with keeping us down that you let TDO win the round, because they're well on their way to doing that right now with highest score, highest NS and second highest Avg. NS :P
PS. No stats, really? Fine, I'll provide mine:
TPC
Members: 27
NS: 231,465
Avg. NS: 8,573
Avengers
Members: 24
NS: 155,441
Avg. NS: 6,477
TDO has never down declared anyone or hit others while they were at war so while i can't speak for everyone regarding them, i don't think anyone has anything against them. They had nations alliance hop to help Avengers against TPC/OP last round which some felt sour about but so far they have stuck to TE principles and have not interfered in any of your wars as of yet. If they continue to grow and prosper then good for them, the amount of nations temp trading there matches your own, it really is quite a feat. We have issues and delays temping for just a handful of us, this organization could possibly only be matched by those running a 1000ft aircraft carrier. Most alliances can't get a complete set of temps yet here we have an alliance with multiple sets, impressive!
Edit: I forgot to add but if you really want to know if TPC nations were hit with econ ops then why don't you message Rock n Rolla/Limits and find out for yourself? I'm sure they'll tell you if you asked. Chasing unknown op messages are probably long gone by now so you'll have to take their word for it. I know nobody that would question their honesty, also ask Fatal as well and see if he was spied while you're at it, he had his ops forwarded to a number of people as a early warning to defend your nations.
lol, he has double my WC right now. This is going to be fun.
Thanks for the stats though :)
KJ - the main one bringing up the war from last round is DT haha. We're quite happy to let things be and just deal with this war as it goes.
Yes i bought it up because it was a good example of your own down declares against TPC.
I see BG is still talking BS and cheer leading for Avengers like he does in every Avenger thread. No one cares what you have to say noob!
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Yea as long as I dont get deleted for multis again
Don't use multis then.
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Two or three flag runners getting hit (from what I've been told) is quite different than a whole alliance, but you can keep telling yourself whatever you'd like. No one likes to lose, and since no one could beat us without forming a huge coalition, I recognize why you're doing what you're doing. I'm not complaining, I just find it funny that D1 disguised there war as "friendly" and you're acting like these tactics are similar to the ones we've used in the past. If you think we've played dirty in the past, I don't think you realize our potential.
I don't have to tell myself anything, you rolled all of the danger players in TPC except for Rock n Rolla. It took them weeks to recover but you can keep telling yourself whatever you'd like.
You didn't create a coalition but you did concentrate a group of experience and advanced players into a single alliance, most of whom look like they're ex-players returning for an easy ride. I found it strange that you invited new players from SE this round to burn for you, I'm sure you knew this was coming, why set them up?
What you've created would be equivalent to TPC, OP ,D1 ,WDs and Misfits taking their most experienced and active players and uniting them to form one alliance but why would they go to those extreme lengths? Unless they wanted to dominate everyone and win everything which i still stand behind is the primary purpose of Avengers and that is to funnel donations to SE nations, one of whom i know is the # 1 ranked SE nation and i know this because i was suppose to have a donation sent to him.
Anyway we know whats going on and has been, no need to try and justify your actions now, its too late for that.
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Shut up noob no one gives a pooping !@#$. Nerd. Who Plays te seriously. I'll see you next round, !@#$%*. Blow me. But wait in line first
Can you build up? I need some XP.
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Avengers are noobs they dont have cash.
Some of them are still in the mindset that they can use their massive war chest levels to carry them through tough wars except they forget their temp and donations advantages haven't been allowed enough time to give that to them. Welcome to the real world of TE. ^_^
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TPC has much more cash than our nations. They didn't just get done with being hit with double the NS and taking over a hundred dirty econ ops. The majority of our nations are nearly broke.[4/17/2015 1:29:10 PM] Das: I expect we'll be hit fairly soon after by TPC[4/17/2015 1:29:53 PM] Das: If I saw this as just one war, I would agree with Tim[4/17/2015 1:30:54 PM] Das: However, I see it as a tactical move on D1's part to blow all the money they can alongside WDs in order to give TPC, OP and Misfits a head start on us. They did this last round too.Dance, puppets, dance. I'm happy to know it takes 76 of you plus your rogues to touch 18 of us.
OP and Misfits have hit you too? And did you fight D1/WD alone? TPC nations were also hit with econ ops but i don't see them complaining about it.
They're doing what they should have done 2-3 rounds ago and lets not pretend you don't know why. This will be the first round we get to see Avengers put to the test without having every major advantage there is. You didn't fair too well with your first war, lets hope you can improve on that performance and bounce back. :)
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14 vs 4 though? Negro, please
They have cash, why don't they use it like TPC have?
Also they caught Avengers with their pants down and combined with a very impressive blitz, of course the post blitz stats would look like that, that is the goal of any blitz and its to create more advantages.
Avengers hit TPC with their guard completely down early last round, with almost twice their ANS. They fluffed the numbers a day or 2 later by adding more alliances one by one as they eliminated threats with effective blitz concentrated on their high tier nations, they didn't even get a fight which is what they wanted. These guys have taken the dirty tactics to a whole nother level.
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Avengers are allowed to down declare TPC but they can't return it? Or so you thought.
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haha I wouldn't say the weakest kids....they were a step or two up from the weakest kids on the playground......
The wolves needed a win to start off with. Im sure the wolves will loose some down the road but their first war is going good.
Wolves don't pick fights with bears, they look for sheep...but if a bear messes with the wolves then we got a fight on our hands.
Typical wolves, always hunting the sheep, watch out for the sheep dogs though. :p
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Wow...! Probably the shortest "speech" from Daenery's Targaryen in a lot of time, here! :o Lol! :laugh:
I'm no stranger to wishing warring parties GL.
You assume i complain and start dramas everywhere i post but if you were to take a closer look at all those threads I've argued in, I'm rarely the one who starts them.
As for the war, its good to see new alliances and i welcome them.
Its a down declare but they're young, its their first war so they have a lot to learn, I'm sure they'll get better at finding fair wars in the future but its always good to see fresh fish. :P Go easy on the old timers at NDO, they're not as young and resilient as they once were, except Road Rash of course. ^_^
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Good luck everyone!
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Another one playing the victim card and telling everyone hes deleting. Sounds like the theme in this thread.
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Ah, so on us it's provoked but on anyone else it is unprovoked? Hilarious.
When did i say that? I said "I'm against the unprovoked spy ops but anything else, i support." Where in that post was i addressing you's?
Provoked spy ops are war related and economic spy ops should not be demonized, they're a legitimate and strategic weapon. When i started playing TE, it was unusual for wars not to end with full out economic spy attacks on the last day.
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Lol, you are so ignorant. Please show me the repeated maulings we have put out on D1/WD.
Plain wrong, yet again. You dont have a clue.
We did lose this war. When WD have 150ish k , D1 about the same, and we have about 110k with LESS ANS than either AA.
You join up to hit us. And, you take the simplest oldest trick in the book of adding in a new big AA with a lot of total NS to make your war seem fair.
Defcon1 can only win down declares. WD of course are happy to tag along.
This BS is almost at BG level.
"Rolling the same AAs every time"
Sorry what? Who else is there to hit?? We've hit pretty much everyone over the course of the last few rounds and pretty much everyone has hit us lol.Well you just got rolled by two of them and I have a good feeling you'll get to see more of these AA's first hand. ^_^
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I'm still getting spied, should i lose my mind over it and quit as well?
Well, DT does lol.
I'm against the unprovoked spy ops but anything else, i support.
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@DT, you seem to be very good at ignoring my posts when it's convenient lol
Respect to D1 / WD - as always they have been fighting brilliantly! Much honour and respect to them.We don't have a problem with this war. It is simply the constant way we are drawn into the OWF drama as the bad guys all the time that is getting to me. It's like you aren't even willing to give us a chance and as soon as we try and do something to prove it to you we get it thrown back at us as if it's our fault for every bad thing that has ever happened here.
The first page of this thread is almost entirely Avengers members saying gl / hf and all that. Exception being Stevie who wanted to point out that he thought the stats were not entirely representative of how the war would play out and would have preferred a more honest fight. I suppose that's a bit of a complaint, but he never said he didn't want the war - he simply said that he thought it was obvious that NM were added on to make the stats better. (not something i'm going to comment on here as i don't really care either way).
In fact I have no problem with WD / D1 at all - Samwise and I resolved our spy ops issue. Cowboy posted to try and get others to help alienate someone caught doing the exposed spy ops. Danger Mouse is a just a good guy all around from what i've seen.
Please try to tell me again how we're such terrible people who are the ultimate evil of TE and deserve to be eradicated from the game and how you applaud anyone who uses such tactics as IRS ops / destroy money ops etc on us! (I believe that last was basically a direct quote!)
Are you really going to pretend the Avengers don't have a problem with this war? Maybe you don't but you don't speak for all of the Avengers and Stevie has already complained about it multiple times. Stevie didn't want the war and hes the one who approached D1 and WD's about an early peace. I know both D1 and WD wouldn't have wanted it to end early, because they never do, they will win or die trying. It seems the only alliances who won't die trying are the newbies and the Avengers who don't want to weaken their position further and stranglehold on everyone.
Using the OWF dramas to blame everyone else for your problems is just an excuse and everyone I've been talking to has repeated this sentiment. The OWF has been having dramas forever but as soon as you're on the back foot and you can't bring friends in to defend you this time, well you could and we'd get to find out who has the most friends, you pull the pity card, spit the dummy and cry about all of these OWF haters being responsible for you wanting to leave the game. Why don't you ignore the forums or haters if it bothers you so much, this why is admin implemented an ignore function.
What you're experiencing is nothing compared to what many others have gone through in this game and they still play, most of us don't take the game as serious so we're not too bothered when we get rolled, rogue attacked, etc, most of us just play to war and not win everything which is the main reason why many of you are upset because that goal looks a little harder to obtain with all the enemies you've made yourselves.
And i never said you were terrible people, in fact all of you are decent people but you take this game too serious and that is going to be your undoing when everything goes bad so lets not blame everyone else for that.
If you understood our posts, it has nothing to do with War Doves and D1. They were fun to war with, and being "defeated" is pretty subjective. I told most people in the alliance to hold back, because we expect to be hit again. Do you think I couldn't have told everyone to pull a defcon 1 and buy a punch of tech, always keep full air, and statistically win this war? I could have, but it's a marathon, not a footrace. I'm also not rage quitting. I can show you Skype screenshots of me telling Tim I didn't have much motivation to play anymore, if you really want. This round, the outspoken members of the community, getting rogued and people being unable to get over old grudges have pushed me away, and RL has gotten much busier.
Ironically, you are the one with the SE mindset. In SE, people continuously hold grudges (if grudges doesn't scream DT, I don't know what does). Each round, you are fixated on the past and hold such a strong bias against us. In SE, people make coalitions to take down a single alliance. In TE, the goal is to get rid of those grudges and have each round be a new slate. But I'm sure you'll retort with something about quitting because I can't win.
Edit: Oh, and we've never denied an alliance peace when they've asked for it. Just because we don't post it on the oef doesn't mean we offer it.You's asked for peace early, that means you's lost this war. Lets not take that away from D1 and WDs after they agreed to your early peace proposal.
And believe me, they were hoping you'd spend your cash, this is one of the most destructive things you can do to your enemies because it only serves to make you weaker in the future, this is what many very experienced vets aim to do to their opponents, its what separates the newbies from the elites. For most newbies this is a case of inexperience but for the experienced its a case of ego overtaking experience and both sides have minimal war chest levels.
People hold grudges in TE as well, but they can end faster because they're not divided by treaties unlike SE. SE is more focused on building the stronger side which could be compared to Avengers who have increased their membership of elites every round. Did the Sengoku guys join you this round, i see one of them there? You seem to be stacking your alliance to strengthen it more by the round as if you's weren't already dominating everyone else. This will only force others to come closer because of the imbalance, it was always going to naturally occur and this imbalanced you've created is why TE may slowly move towards a miniture version of SE. No one wants this but what other choices are there, you guys are actively making it very difficult and there is nothing no one else can do but to bring their strength together to match your own.
Its easy to want everyone to get rid of those grudges when you're the one who created them and has been strengthening them every round by rolling the same alliances but I'm sure you wish they would forget about it. Obviously you don't know some of these alliances very well.
I have my reasons for opposing your actions in-game and out, and I've explained those reasons in the appropriate threads. No one else seems to be pulling any crap so they don't require my attention, i don't discriminate unless they do it to others.
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But seriously just grow up Avengers, spitting the dummy and quitting over a game is something I'd expect from toddlers. The truth is you're more mad because you're going to find it hard to dominate everything and everyone like you've been doing since your founding. You don't want to play if you're going to be the same strength as everyone else and can't roll everyone when you want too which is why i always said you don't play TE to help keep the game balanced and fair, you just want to dominate everyone that gets in the way of your flags and records.
No one should feel pity for you because you never gave anyone else this compassion when you rolled over alliances without any offers of early peace and i know you asked D1/WDs for an early peace and they've agreed and they first offered peace to you's in their DoW, would you have done the same? There are those of us who do try hard to keep the teams balanced and fair, perhaps you should leave the SE mind set in SE and start playing TE the way its always been played otherwise you're allowed to leave, that is up to you but you're also allowed to stay.
We will go on regardless of your decisions and continue to try our best in bringing back fairness and fun into TE but also to all those you've been doing a good job at denying it too.
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Everyone should stop picking on Avengers so they don't quit. It only took one defeat and look what you've all done! Shame on you!
Don't worry about everything they did to you, its a new round, just forget it so they can do it again but it doesn't matter because you'll get told to forget about it and move on so it can happen again and again. Just move on and fight those who don't consistently want to destroy you.
What D1 and WD have done is the most despicable thing I've sever seen, i can't believe you took the war to them before they could roll you for the 5th time in a row, the horror, we the community of TE will never forget!
When Avengers came into this thread and were the first to start complaining, we should not have complained about their complaints i mean they are the Avengers remember, they can complain at everyone else but we shouldn't be doing it to them, if we do that then they will call us haters!
After all these super heroes are protectors and servers of justice and they do it all for us so do not resist when they nuke your nations, slaughter your soldiers, assassinate your generals, sink your naval fleets. If they're doing that then its clearly all your fault so you better spread em and assume the position or else!
If you get blamed for spying them then it must have been you because they have super powers that can tell if you're lying so clearly I'm guilty of all of the spying. Shame on me!
And who the hell is going to pay for all of those donations if they quit? Now that all of the donators will be quitting, i guess TE might now be coming to its final days. Its been fun but we can't play if all of the donators are quitting. I guess this will be everyone's final round, it was good while it lasted!
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No one has anything against planning and strategies, like i said, its how you're doing it.
But keep trying buddy, this attempt was a lot better than the attempt to undermine me using some type of Stevie obsession.
I fought WD's at the time and i rolled as many of them as i could, after all the BS they pulled on Misfits in earlier rounds with OP, i couldn't wait to give some back and i never denied i didn't fight in that war. We bought MP's while they had no MP's or SDI's but triple our nation count and double our NS, but keep in mind we both went into the war with zero nukes as MP's were bought on the last second. That is why we could hit them and if my memory serves me right, we crushed them because of this military wonder advantage and OP who attacked 3 days later with +90 nukes, with the help of D1 nations. Stevie can pull all the logs he wants but it doesn't change the fact that is what Avengers planned and executed.
How exactly did Stevie make you fight in that war? Not that it matters but I'm pretty sure there was a target list.