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Just now, Devialance said:
LOL
Careful or you're going to get told off by Mr. Wyatt.
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25 minutes ago, Neo Uruk said:
Weird how declarative you are as a non-leader
Don't worry. He's just "advising".
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Ladies and gentlemen, I agree with Mr. Wyatt. We need some damn decorum here. And I, for one, am sick of it. Let us continue speaking of Junka's humiliating resignation.
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Just now, gowfanatic said:
Who wants war aid?
Thank you for your kind offer of zakat. I think you'll find that Junka needs it most.
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1 minute ago, King Conrad said:
Bless me War Jesus, for I'm going blind in my old age.
May Allah forgive you for your polytheism.
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1 minute ago, King Conrad said:
I think you ought to put that bit about being the Flail of God back in your nation info, personally.
Still there, brah.
Nation Slogan: I am the Flail of God. Your sins must have been great indeed for Him to send such a punishment as me. -
Just now, Immortan Junka said:
Jack Layton is the ultimate barbarian, attacking anyone for any reason for the mearest opportunity. He was once our ally, but I fear he is beyond redemption now.
Holy !@#$. That's badass. Can I use that in my signature?
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Just now, AtlasXero said:
I'm fine where I am, thank you. Though I would rather you guys settled this dispute with Galerion. I'm not here as an instigator of war, I'm just trying to diffuse the situation. Of course, not everyone likes what I say anyway lmao
I get it. You don't want to look like an Italian and switch mid-war. No offence to any wops present. That's a respectable position to have. After this is done, send me a message. I'll take care of you.
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Just now, AtlasXero said:
That sounds so wrong.. lmao
You seem alright. You want to join the winners?
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1 minute ago, AtlasXero said:
Have you tried turning it off then on???...
If you're advice and Guidance are in the form of threats, I honestly don't blame him. Look, I get that you both are angry and upset because you don't like who he chose to take over, and you don't like that he posted an ultimatum. Thing is, he's not threatening either of you in the OP. Yet, both have you have been quick to threaten the alliance, purely based off of a misunderstanding and past instances. "I'm the guy nuking you. and I'll keep nuking you till you choose correctly"? That's not Guidance or advice, That's bullying people into choosing something for your benefit. Notice, I don't call people barbarians? I rank lower than Junka, Yeah I'm new. Clearly, I see something else here that none of you do. Perhaps, instead of nailing a snake to a post per say, you should get together with Galerion and discuss the issues with him. He's in peace talks with slap, chances are he doesn't want a war with anyone, and would be more keen to listening to you if you didn't sit here spewing this bull@@@.
I've been nailing Junka's snake to a post for quite a few rounds. Still haven't gotten tired of it.
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Just now, Immortan Junka said:
"A people's voice is dangerous when charged with wrath" - Aeschylus
"Get out of my house" - Exodus
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1 minute ago, Immortan Junka said:
If that is true, the permawar may be inevitable.
I haven't yet calculated the margin of error, or measured the sample bias. But it seems pretty safe to draw a conclusion.
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1 minute ago, AtlasXero said:
Well, honestly, war count doesn't tell me anything but that he'd rather be quick to fight than to talk. I mean If I went to war that much over a series of words being put together in a way I feel insulting, guess what, I'd be at war irl everyday. You don't see that happening. Besides, attacking someone just because you disagree is a demonstration of how incredibly ignorant people are about making decisions. No offense meant of course.
He's nuking us because we respect our former leader rather than control what someone posts, when he's perfectly right to post this. He believes in eye for an eye and so far the only ones doing the attacking are SLAP and Jack lmfao We didn't start the attack, they did.If you want to talk, I'm here, baby. I'm your shoulder to cry on.
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2 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said:
You threaten a permawar, but how many of your collective members support such a war?
We took a poll and about 15/17 of respondents said yes. That's 88% approval rating for permawar.
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Just now, AtlasXero said:
You'll eventually get bored. We aren't interested in fighting a war with you anyway.
Look at my war count in my signature. What makes you think that I'm going to grow bored of war?
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2 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said:
Except your sword is not all that fearsome. All the armies of doomsphere put together do not match our most difficult adversaries of the past. Perhaps the hubris is yours.
There is so much irony in this statement.
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6 minutes ago, AtlasXero said:
Cool, but then again, who cares what you think lmfao. We know what junka is doing in our alliance better than you do. Who are you to decide that for us?
I'm the guy nuking you. And I will continue to nuke you until you choose correctly.
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1 minute ago, Immortan Junka said:
I suppose it is convenient that our enemies determine who should be allowed to post and provide advice.
No. You make that determination. But you will also live with the consequences of that choice. A choice that YOU seem to be making and not your Emperor.
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Just now, AtlasXero said:
Better naive than jaded lol
If you think that Junka's "advice" will ever go opposed by Galerion, I have a bridge to sell you.
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Just now, Immortan Junka said:
Only a fool and a tyrant fears the sword more than the truth.
Only a fool thinks there is nothing at all to fear from the sword. Each and every SNX member is paying the price for your hubris every day. Every post you make is another day they stray further away from rebuilding their nations in peace. Vomiting out these platitudes and linking to random movie clips will not get you any closer to resolving this conflict. I've spelled out how this can be resolved. The ball is in your court to proceed with it.
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2 minutes ago, AtlasXero said:
I don't believe you understand the term advise. Advise means to give recommended actions. It's not a leadership position, it's just one that is used to help Gal. If gal chooses to step down he too will be a relief officer in charge of advising the next Head of our alliance, so on so forth. That's the idea and so far that's what we've seen junka doing. Advising.
You're cute in your naivety.
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4 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said:
Your analysis that my posts are intended to influence people's opinions are not actually that incisive. It is immediately obvious that my goal is to inform people. The fact that the aggressors demand I stop posting for us to see peace, is proof they feel insecure of their own narrative.
The aggressors have built themselves a trap, because they do not understand the motivations of free men. They are used to bulling and intimidating others into submission, but the Imperium, after all our wars, has not proven so simple to intimidate. And so they are forced to carry out an attempt at extermination which will grow increasingly unpopular amongst their own membership, who have no say in this war of subjugation.
The real danger is not that people will flock to the defense of ISX. The real danger is that SLAP and their doomsphere cohorts will not appear in control of the situation, and that will threaten their position against actual strategic rivals long term.
That may be your goal, but that is not what you are achieving. Each post you make is full of hubris and sophistry, and each post further alienates you from the possibility of resolving this conflict (either with us directly, or via the intervention of another powerful alliance). If you think that people despise your essays because they're afraid, that is a delusion of grandeur that is perhaps unparalleled and unprecedented. -
2 minutes ago, Serberus_I said:
You don't foster sympathy by making threats.
That's precisely why it's so inept. He might have even fooled some people on our side had he not done that. But some symbolic transitions of power like giving Galerion AA ownership mean nothing if Junka continues to "advise" him. It will still be Junka's alliance, just through a mindless puppet.
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The point is that endless essays on fighting a "moral war", and how your made up ideology is righteous, and how all your enemies are "barbarians", are frankly all irrelevant. Anyone with a brain here knows that a military victory is practically impossible for SNX (and Junka has basically freely admitted this). And anyone with a brain should also realize that Junka's pontificating about how his war is "moral" isn't meant for the consumption of his aggressors (and as Banned freely admitted, it is us). We don't give a !@#$ about how immoral or unjustified he sees our attacks. If we did, we wouldn't have attacked in the first place. Rather, his essays and martyrdom posts are aimed at the spectators here. He knows military victory is impossible against us, so he is trying to win a "moral victory" in the public eye. Perhaps in the hopes that he can save face and forge a new relationship with a protector alliance (officially or not). Either one who will step in and enforce peace between the two sides, or better still, one that will militarily intervene against us. I can only imagine the endless posts in that event. There is only one problem with this strategy.
The very reasons we launched wars against SNX are the very same reasons why nobody, at least nobody with significant enough power to matter, will come to his aid right now. In a desperate attempt to convince Bob that these attacks are unjustified and precipitate foreign intervention, he even gave up his position as Emperor of SNX, while pretending that this would take away our actual reasons for war. But, again, anyone with a brain knows that his relationship with Galerion is analogous to that of Putin and Medvedev. With Galerion in charge and Junka still "advising" him, SNX will still continue down the same terrible path, executing the same terrible policies. Galerion is nothing but a mindless figurehead and the evidence is the fact that his presence here has been minimal while Junka is still allowed to bury SNX deeper into the hole they are currently in. It's a journey to the center of the Earth.
Junka's strategy of playing the victim in order to gain public sympathy and support is a crapshoot because the public is fresh out of sympathy. It's the reason why his allies have abandoned him. He suggests that his aggressors read The Art of War, yet he is losing massively on all fronts. Had he read that book and actually digested its contents, perhaps our positions would be reversed. It is insane hubris to attempt to give advice to the winning side when you are quite firmly losing. That insane hubris is the reason for these wars.
Resignation and Ultimatum from the Imperium
in Alliance Announcements (IC)
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If you're the lion, I'm the rich British guy in a pith helmet on safari.