Unknown Smurf
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Out of curiosity, are these logs posted somewhere accessible?
I also am interested in these logs. Someone PM me. Kthxbai. -
Politically active alliances.You keep saying that, but I don't think you have proof; hell, if hartfw gave you the full logs of our conversation, you wouldn't have any proof.
How are you defining "active NS"?
And @Charles - Rey has the PoW AA because he probably thought at some point it would be fun to have that owner power.
I doubt he is doing it for (at the request of) oculus. -
Well, no. If all the people crying foul had the testicular fortitude to do anything about it, they'd have quite a sizable coalition to call upon.
If I took all those people and all the alliances and added it all together it'd be smaller than NPO+Umb.
Oculus is ~72% of the active NS in CN. -
Hey look we're the big bad ebil NPO again! TPF didn't exactly have issues with us being ebil pre-Karma when we were allies. Clearly TPF isn't at all responsible for the fact that they chose to align themselves with an AA Oculus was clearly gunning for, and subsequently has ended up in the war alongside MI6. Sure Pacifica chose to align with AAs TPF had issues with as well, but that's why we're no longer allies.
Both TPF and Pacifica have had divergent FA paths for a very long time now, but only Pacifica's at fault for the situation we find ourselves in now? TPF hasn't really been on the same page with us in terms of FA really for almost 2-3 years now going back to when we signed treaties with NG and NSO, but clearly we're still the only ones culpable for being in this situation now... Come on I know you're smarter than that...
We've been ebil for a lot of our existence and it's created dynamics in CN that actually made it a viable game for a lot of people, So as Branimir's already said multiple times bring on the controversy maybe that will shake CN out of the comatose state it has found itself in for a rather long time now.
By preemption them and bringing massive amounts of NS you don't shake CN out of any comatose, you induce it. -
Do you think people believe your bullshit? There was plenty of targets, all the people you were fighting on the smallest 8 day thing were being wrecked more so by your compatriots than you.Yall's mockery is pointless. Last war I put almost every single target on the smallest 8 days nations gains and I'd be happy to do it again if I could get some. (I think my peers just beat me to the slots.. fast bastards.) Hey, if you have people in my range. Just have them declare on me. Since I'm such a push over.. can't hurt so bad eh?
War system won't fricken let me :P Hell, last war my six man squad did more damage than most alliances in the game, with me being cause of a good chunk of it, we tracked it.
But yall free to caterwall all yall like til ya put your face in front of my warheads and I fry their expressions off.
Be on the losing side of a war that is this lopsided.. even karma wasn't 2:1 and this is much worse than that (edit: that ratio is off with STA entering but still). You need a reality check. -
Good call, Cobra is competent.
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I agree with the second part but I have to echo LH here.Just want to clarify a thing or two.
ODN. Seems some in this thread and others are questioning ODN's character as an alliance. Bunch of crap. Since our signing ODN have been exemplary allies, always keeping the lines of communication open without compromising their commitments to their other allies. Every time a political issue arose they came to us to discuss. Whenever they were looking to sign a treaty with they came to us to discuss. A simple sign of respect which we appreciate. We discussed the upcoming war on multiple occasions long before it happened, we knew exactly where each other stood, because that is what allies do. I explained to OsRavan personally the STA would not expect or ask ODN to defend the STA in this conflict unless we were pre-emptively attacked. I hope this ends all the BS speculation regarding ODN.
NPO/TPF. It has been argued by various NPO members that as TPF and NPO are no longer allied and as such NPO owes TPF nothing, that ex allies fight each other all the time. That may be true however there are very few alliances which had such a long and storied relationship as TPF/NPO. Very few alliances which have stood by through thick and thin as TPF has for NPO. Oculus had more than enough firepower there was no need for Pacifica to declare a single offensive war against TPF. In no way shape or form would such a policy compromise the operational effectiveness of the offensive. NPO you easily could have stepped aside allowing other alliances to fight TPF as a sign of respect for your past relationship instead you chose otherwise. It was a PR blunder, I hope it comes to bite you in the ass. I am sorry for TPF that NPO members don't see how such a small gesture is a sign of respect for an ex ally who sacrificed so much for Pacifica.
To our allies in TPF and my fellow tigers. Fight with honor, fight with dignity.
Za Sibir!
The point is that ODN is either actively plotting a war that gets you rolled for no reason other than boredom (if were being honest because they are preemptively taking out the oppositions potential coalition) or at the very least enabling it by standing aside and putting you in a position where you have to defend an ally without even the threat of them entering for you.
Just because they are open in communication (and old friends) doesn't mean they should be allies. -
You're the same guy who went on IRC claiming to post nude pictures of his ex-girlfriend, right? I believe I was there. Funny how you became a staunch feminist since then. What provoked that change?
When did I claim to be a feminist?
My jab was directed at WC for being critical of something that was a milder version of what "her" side implied a few posts previously. That doesn't necessarily mean I believe the implied content was unjust. -
If Letum had posted something Oculus disagreed with, it would be readily apparent by now.
Doubtful. Oculus is/y'all are competent enough to keep their displeasure internal.
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I'm a girl. Is my nation large enough for you, sweetie?
Pfft. Okay get mad at Doornail for responding to a comment that is derogatory against women and ignore the original offender completely.
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Huzzah.
Viva la revolution
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If you give me a time-frame, I can attempt to clear up what I can in regards to that.
Screenshots from dec 2013, I reckon that's a good place to start?
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Funnily enough, I do not know what Blue Sun is. This is not me feigning ignorance, I honestly would like to know where that came from.
I think Lavender town but for some reason I also want to say RIOT. I don't really remember. The chow one iirc.
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IIRC this is from when Kashmir attacked our protectorate, aka TIR, when we were not in a position to do anything about it (we were involved in some other war or some shit... fuck if I remember.
I sincerely have to say: Best of luck to both sides. I hope you work this out with Kashmir with them being allied to our allies in Stripes but I remember how cowardly the actions of Kashmir were and I think this war is extremely justified at the same time.. plus their our protectorate and all.
..But I'm still rooting for TIR with them being our protectorate and all.
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Good luck.
Oculus did a pretty good job though; even if I don't agree with them, have to respect the ability.
Only Sengoku and GLOF fucked up staggers.
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If you know the history (mhawk et.al.,) which apparently you don't - you'd probably deduce that there is nothing brainless about his post.
Not sure if you're a victim of revisionist history or just trying to sound like you know what the fuck you're talking about but Gaetz is absolutely on point with his above post.
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NPO are not claiming to be a victim here at all. Nor did anyone possibly twist anyones arm. That is just a assumption on your part. All that has been stated is Oculus is a collective of many AAs that have a voice.
You said yourself this is not an NPO action but an Oculus one. The mere fact that you exclude NPO from the Oculus action implies you are being coerced into this war in order to facilitate other members of the bloc. Whether that be to show unity to the bloc or to give you an out in the political aftermath remains to be seen.
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I dont buy that... i am more than sure the all the other AAs of Oculus are more than capable of going to war on thier own without NPO. Yes we have more wars maybe but our spread out formation of our AA has a wide variety of NS as well just our size along with the fact we do like to war maybe part of that as well dont you think? And without actually knowledge if this war was to expand or course then yes i am sure you would see more of the rest oF Oculus get involved defending us ... sort of the new word in the dictionary type thing called... hmm what is the PLANNING... you know for future scenerios?
If they could've (see: had the balls to) rolled without you they would have a while ago.
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Existed?... or just simplely irrated all our allies one way or the other. People seem to forget this is not a NPO action but a Oculus action.
You have over half of the wars total; including double of the second most alliance in offensive wars (IRON).
More wars than every other alliance in Oculus minus IRON combined.
Some combination of Seng/Umb may be the driving force; but the war doesn't happen without NPO. Result of being the lynchpin.
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They told GOONS it was fine to raid our protectorates.
Deflection is the true cause of the demise of the OWF.
Auctor is referring to when I declared on MI6 for those that don't get it, which really doesn't answer the question but rather confirms that in some twisted fashion Oculus believes these wars they draw up to be curbstomps (that they force when expansion doesn't happen) are entertaining.
Reminds me of when teens played that knockout game in RL a few years back.
And no I don't mean Oculus as it's current incarnation, I mean the people that have been running the planet for many years now.
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first we is this sucker punch... seems to me MI6 knew this was inevitiable and could of maybe rethought their own politics more to prevent it.
As for TPF ... simple ... relations between NPO and TPF crumbled long before this time and there were many attempts to salvage a special freindship between the two alliances. We alll know as time goes on that new leaders new people start to take over for the old and true. Time does that.. As for betrayal that is not even close to being true. WIthout bringing up the rest of the turkeyday posting TPF and NPO went different directions as they could not see eye to eye. There is not one member that knows or has been a part of the history in NPO that does not feel some kind of hurt that we have come to this day. WIth that in mind we also understand that one has to move on. There is not one person in NPO who does not think that TPF our honorable or loyal and that will never be a question.
MI6 didn't rethink their own politics by completely revamping their government and sending diplomats to literally every alliance active enough to mask them?
Please enlighten me: What did MI6 do to NPO/you in your mind to become the enemy?
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What a time to be alive, welcome to the new politics.
There is no new politics.
You think sucker punching these alliances will breed hatred and new politics. You think MI6 is active enough to pull together the downtrodden and create a movement that will stand against these baseless attacks.
But really these alliances that have been defeated years and years ago aren't going to rise up and do shit. Fan, legion, R&R, CCC, Val, Fark, STA, MHA, NADC, RIA and many others/any combination of their allies will never rise and be an opposition.
The only ones who are organized enough to actually bring them together are either vehemently hated by them or actively pursuing them.
So many Occulus posters just don't get it. What's at stake is how much can NPO's allies can trust them. TPF has burned multiple times and have shown unfailing loyalty to NPO. Instead of rewarding TPF with even token respect, NPO has led Occulus to go out of their way to attack TPF just for the sake of fun. NPO's current set of allies are going to look at that and think "why would we want to burn for that." You would think that NPO would have learned from their !@#$%* leadership of the Equilibrium War, that how they conduct themselves in one war has great repercussions on how they fare in the following. I guess they will have to be taught twice, and the lesson will probably come at the hands of several of NPO's current allies.
No they understand that they won't be betrayed as long as they maintain usefulness.
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Hello,
How do you feel about the TPF rolling? Do you think that opens the door for those that historically don't like GATO but are in Oculus to be able to make moves against GATO?
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why would oculus warn TPF?
There's still a PIAT to my records.
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About a page and a half behind but hakai you're my hero.
As to the rest of yall stop posturing. Willy, daeg isn't a dual member and doornail a ghost is a ghost. Ain't shit gonna change no matter what you say. Just keep raining down nukes and let that do the talking. Meth, doornail is competent while your help is appreciated I'm sure he would be better off speaking with kashmir directly. I think you'll find margrave quite approachle, reasonable and competent.
Here's to hoping you guys figure this out soon.