Cynic1

[quote name='Vladius Dreadfire' timestamp='1312331155' post='2770515'] Ahaha...yeah, everyone would say "this is our alliance, we can run it however we wanna run it". It's really nothing more than a way of saying "I don't have a way to match your argument so I'm just going to stuff my fingers in my ears and scream like a baby until you go away". Firstly, I doubt he tried to sabotage a treaty single-handedly, by posting some damning logs no less. He's not a retard, you know (actually, you probably think he is, just because he's your enemy now). In the event, he [i]has[/i] caused NG harm, seeing as everybody now knows that Non Grata will [s]allow it's members to get away with spying[/s] give lenient punishment to alliance spies (and spare me the !@#$%^&*, this guy was not some low-rank grunt, he was the !@#$@#$ Minister of Defence). And secondly, again "get your nose outta mah business" is the same as "this is our alliance, we can run it however we wanna run it". It's not going to work, so you need to give up and go home right now if you haven't got anything good to bring to the table. [/quote] I thank you for your support. While the word "sabotage" is a little strong I did tell IRON about NG's plans to roll SOS if RIA dropped their treaty. Why? NG sure as hell wasn't going to tell them. Actually iirc the damn near exact words were "Lets not ruin our PR until we get the IRON and NoR treaties signed since FOK and PB are cloudy as to where they would stand in war" or something to that effect. Of course those would be the screenshots everyone is referring to. EDIT: I must add I did just "inform" NAH who the said he would appreciate the SS [quote]<Cynic> If you'd like proof <Cynic> I can drop it here <snip log dump> <Notadolfhitler{IRON}> please <snip more logs> <Cynic> theres him tellin me to spy SOS when I said I was going back to spying <Cynic> then him telling me he spied a fark nation <Cynic> then the thingy bout GOD <Cynic> h/o and i'll grab the screenshots <Notadolfhitler{IRON}> also <Notadolfhitler{IRON}> 30 minutes after my birthday <Cynic> XD <Cynic> cuz I like IRON <Cynic> and i don't want yall getting rolled <Cynic> or even in war for that <snip screenshots> <Cynic> theres proof of it being in gov forums too <Notadolfhitler{IRON}> thanks for the heads up, but we are signing an ODOAP <Notadolfhitler{IRON}> and its not really putting us in any danger <Cynic> Mk. <Cynic> well gl then[/quote] [quote name='kwell' timestamp='1312333606' post='2770565'] Sounds to me like they handled the situation correctly. The "mod" went rogue by log dumping information to cause harm to NG (this is why he is considered rogue). Ng, being diplomatic, decided to kick him out and zi him instead of getting rolled. This is what rogues deserve. It is just a singular zi (depending on his war chest, it may only cost him money and tech). It isn't eternal zi. What else were they suppose to do? They could have been like polar, and still keep him around, thus creating an issue. They didn't, thus, no harm, no foul. Well, I take that back because it tested the relationship between Fark and NG. [/quote] NG was in no way going to get rolled for what I did. So theres one issue with your theory. As for the singular ZI... I beg to differ. In fact King Xander nor any other member of NG government will actually give an answer. [quote][22:10] <Derwood1> [b]ok I am going to have to say for now it is war on, he can do what he feels is necessary, when we are done we will let you know[/b].....but I will tell you I will talk to tris to try and limit it[/quote] [quote]<Mixer> KingXander: [b]single ZI for cynic[/b][/quote] [quote] <@FeaR-> KingXander cynic is a single ZI? Its not PZI? <&KingXander> who said that? <@FeaR-> cynic <@FeaR-> [01:56] <+Cynic> Single ZI <@FeaR-> [01:56] <+Cynic> Per KX <@FeaR-> [01:56] <+Cynic> You have no control over that, sir. <&KingXander> im not cynic <&KingXander> ive never said that to Cynic <&KingXander> so <&KingXander> tough <D3V> he's lying! <D3V> pzi it is <%Hurricane> clearly[/quote] Which its true. He never said that to me. Although he did say that to someone else. Unless this person lied. EDIT 2: the screenshots - [img]http://i1.uyl.me/files/68081298953342174682.png[/img] [img]http://i0.uyl.me/files/92801605209810707771.png[/img] [img]http://i0.uyl.me/files/05553442552922237934.png[/img] [img]http://i0.uyl.me/files/00686219571361800502.png[/img] removed

[quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1312284648' post='2769979'] I could fill you in with all the details Haflinger, but frankly, I don't give a damn about you. [/quote] I am sure the feeling is mutual. [quote name='Zoomzoomzoom' timestamp='1312284738' post='2769980'] Curse the black team for sanctioning a spy!!!! [/quote] I believe you sanctioned the wrong nation then, Zoom. I believe [url="http:// http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=139110"]THIS[/url] is the nation you're looking for.

[quote name='Zoot Zoot' timestamp='1312205612' post='2769082'] That just sounds like a real ballache lol. My mobile is 3G capable, but the uni has free wifi, well if you have the password obviously and the signal is terribad for 3g in the house. [/quote] I think I have seen this discussion before and iirc you would be fine as long you're not aiding/trading. Although you might want to wait on a mod to answer to be sure.

Taking bets that my nation deletes for inactivity before the NG pip goes up... Any takers?

[quote name='King Xander the Only' timestamp='1312266883' post='2769894'] Don't make me come looking for you when you reroll. [/quote] No rerolls planned for me, but if I do.. I'll make damn sure you know where I am

I'll keep this short and to the point. I apologize for the actions of "treason" I took against Non Grata. I ZI'd myself for you. BUT You're taking this a little too far for a !@#$@#$ game guys. I now have been harassed/trolled on IRC, ingame and on here using OOC attacks. I understand the frustration and anger you feel for my IC actions but you all need to learn the "line" between IC and OOC. You're remarks about being "beat" is not something to joke around about. Since you wont be seeing me much longer I don't guess it matters to let it out that actually I was raised in an very abusive home. So your remarks are very offensive. I even tried contacting a member of your high government who obviously completely ignored my request to keep this all IC and have fun with it. You want me gone. You're gonna get it, I had been planning to delete anyway. So long guys. I refuse to be personally attacked. You may not like the way I play, the "character" I played, the things I did, but all you did was lose another active member of the community. Shoutouts: TimLee/Letub/Lizzy: I love you guys Zoom/KX/arexes: NG was fun. This was fun. Keep it real. (tell King Soloman to not spy away tech when he could raid it) Hiott: Don't need that brown trade circle anymore gon' miss ya XD bros/Malone/Stormsend/hawk11/Smashing/Midas: I'll still be around IRC for our lil project Randalla: FeaR-/khmerkid/Trigar: Grow up. Seriously. Anyone else I forget... sorry edit: inb4lolragequit EDIT2: OMGHOWCOULDI4GETNETTLES!!!!!! /me slaps Lord_Nettles around a bit with a large trout. Cya lata BOI

[quote name='King Xander the Only' timestamp='1312261061' post='2769834'] I've heard a warm bath really helps with pains in your backside. But certainly Chad is a cruel man for protecting these guys. [/quote] Thanks. These hemorrhoids have been acting up lately.

[quote name='King Xander the Only' timestamp='1312259127' post='2769808'] Dumping logs? You MONSTER. Also, ok. [/quote] He must be stopped. ZI ftw

[quote name='Zoomzoomzoom' timestamp='1312255268' post='2769733'] No, we're obviously still attacking you. Moron. [/quote] That wasn't the question. Moron. I didn't ask about their "No war" requirements, I asked about their "No ZI list" requirements. Basically, just tell me whether I'm officially on your ZI list or not and I'll stop posting. [quote name='King Xander the Only' timestamp='1312255335' post='2769734'] You can apply anywhere you like. You won't be accepted, though, because 1) you're obviously extremely untrustworthy, and 2) I won't be finished with you. [/quote] Glad you can decide you accepts me in their alliance. I'm sure they'll really enjoy you dibbling in their IA.

[quote name='King Xander the Only' timestamp='1312255034' post='2769723'] Indeed, and she's welcome to begin rebuilding you when we've finished with you.[/quote] Still not gonna give an exact date, time, how many cycles, whether its ZI or not.. are you? Lets say I decide to go elsewhere and that alliance has a requirement of "Not on any ZI lists". Would you say I'm eligible to apply?

[quote name='Zoomzoomzoom' timestamp='1312254818' post='2769722'] You are wrong, yes. Like most things. [/quote] So if "lets get on topic to this" means "lets get on topic to that" then OBVIOUSLY "You are wrong" means "You are right" right? lol My head hurts XD

[quote name='King Xander the Only' timestamp='1312254592' post='2769718'] Why should I give you what you want? There doesn't seem to be much benefit there for me. [/quote] My apologies Randalla, now I see what you went through trying to get an answer last night. If nothing else I think my current alliance deserves to know where this stands. As Randalla tried telling you all last night she plans funding my rebuilding and wants to make sure theres no further issues.

So Xander, I need a clear cut, no !@#$%^&*, no beating around the bush answer. What exactly is the final decision? ZI? EZI? PZI? One round of wars and sanction? What's the deal? I need to know so I can make a decision as to what my next move in CN will be.

[quote name='King Xander the Only' timestamp='1312253702' post='2769696'] Actually, I think you will. And I suggest you do it with a smile on your face. I know I will. [/quote] Hey hot shot. I bet I don't

[quote name='Zoomzoomzoom' timestamp='1312253387' post='2769686'] Didn't you not just state this topic was about FARK and not about your nation? Make up your !@#$@#$ mind. [/quote] I believe you changed the subject, unless I'm reading "Lets get back on topic about Cynics....." wrong. Pretty clear though you wanted to discuss other things than my intentions for this topic.

[quote name='King Xander the Only' timestamp='1312253363' post='2769685'] Shockingly enough, your actions have consequences. [/quote] I thought you would say that. Of course completely ignoring the "as long as you want" part of it. I don't mind the attacks. I don't mind the ZI. Hell I deserve it. I agree. Being at your mercy until you decide you get bored? No. You attacked while talking to Randalla without giving her any details. You then tell her its "war on" but still leave the details out. Then you have 1 triumvir saying he'll try to limit the attacks and then someone orders another attack as well as a sanction. The details STILL had not been given to me nor Randalla. So no its not handled. We still don't know how long the war will last, if I'm supposed to fight back or not, will it end any sooner if I just let it happen? You're unclear with your decision. so yea $%&@ you, I'm not just gonna sit around and take the shaft until you decide you're bored.

[quote name='Zoomzoomzoom' timestamp='1312252381' post='2769659'] The situation was actually handled before Cynic did anything actually. So lets get back on topic about Cynic's need for attention, unintelligible decision making, and lack of credibility. [/quote] Handled? I'm sorry if being at your mercy for as long as you want me to be is unacceptable to me. No thanks.

[quote name='Frozenrpg' timestamp='1312252101' post='2769654'] Cynic, sorry bud you went about this all wrong. Each alliance in PB practically has immunity right now. If someone from the SF side of the web attacked us then MJ would join against them (and vice versa). SF/MJ have to attack each other for a war to start, whichever side swings PB wins as things stand. [/quote] PB is falling a part. Hell even NG doesn't know where PB would fall if war were to break out. I believe the term used was "cloudy". Hence the signing of the IRON treaty and the further work towards the NoR treaty and lets not forget the ultimatum they're discussing giving the other PB alliances. Lol.

[quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1312251683' post='2769651'] I like Cynic, so I'll wish him good luck on getting out of this mess. [/quote] Thanks Omni! As was stated before we should really get back on topic here. The thread was not meant to be a discussion of my issues with NG, the ZI order, or anything other than how NGs MoD spied a Fark nation with no repercussions.

[quote name='Mixer' timestamp='1312250586' post='2769630'] Awww lookey here we have big bad cynic trying to act like he runs !@#$. You sir are an excellent counter-espionage agent. [/quote] So you were either A.) Trying to bait me into saying I only did this to start a war or B.) You're a traitor to NG ... which is it?

[quote name='Mixer' timestamp='1312213455' post='2769159'] This is why I'm so proud to be a NG member. FeaR- keep up the good work man! Obligatory fark sucks. [/quote] Lol. Derwood, Arexes and King Xander. I expect to see this guy expelled and ZId as well.. [quote]<Mixer> Anyway if you are serious about starting something more than what you have done, let me know[/quote] More logs if u need'em XD Traitorous Scum.

[quote name='Melancholy Culkin' timestamp='1312225430' post='2769304'] Dear god, this tells me everything about you that I need to know. [/quote] Now all I need is Shattenmanns support and this thread is complete.. I see you lurking down there

[quote name='Charles the Great' timestamp='1312247821' post='2769569'] just wondering ........ what's happening to the guy who actually spied? [/quote] My point exactly. Can't just say it was an newb mistake seeing as in how he's 100k+ nation and NG's MoD... but I'm the bad guy. [quote name='Jgoods45' timestamp='1312248034' post='2769574'] Who cares?~ [/quote] Obviously he does.

[quote name='Jgoods45' timestamp='1312238774' post='2769439'] This is severely disappointing Cynic. [/quote] I you too Jgoods.

[quote name='Hyperion321' timestamp='1312230109' post='2769348'] Interesting lines being drawn. Now just waiting on the NoR treaty. [/quote] It'll be coming sooner or later. They've turned them down for now though.