doctorrodders

You'd be suprised at homw many non MHA's have a secret love for THGTTG

Damn it! Foiled again! And ok, Im looking at expanding my horizons, and I would apreciate it if you could point out the huge shortcommings in my arguments in a nice way

Oh Im finding Black and White quite nice at the moment, as its the colour of text, which is pretty much how everything in CN is got across

I apoligise for this tastless thread. I hope you can all forgive me for my lack of judgment and taste, and dont think of me as too much of an $@!

Im not saying that they are required to let them off lightly, I am just saying that they cannot without looking hypocritical. There's a difference, and I REALLY hope that they decide to look hypocritical

If you seriusly want me to add them to the list, then please PM me with a link, and a detailed disrciption of what they have done. I want this list only for those who have fled their alliance and joined the enemy I apoligise for my spelling Also, amazingly, this post is not ment to be witty. Not all of us are as good with words as you, so if you could refrain from pointing out the obvious, I would apreciate it

The only benifit is so that alliance leaders know who they cannot trust, and so that nations who feel that infra > freindship, trust and honour get the humiliation they deserve

So your not slightly pissed off with nations who abandoned thier alliance to fight for the enemy? And no, I am talking about individual nations who deserted their alliance just before war broke out to fight for the other side, or to save their infra

This is the place to publicly humiliate individual nations for abandoning their alliance in their time of need, and crossed over to fight for the enemy. It is a list of all those who feel that Infra > Honour Please PM me with the nations needed to be added, and I shall add them

Yes, but Karma has put itself in a bit of a spot here. They cannot place harsh terms on NPO or any of the others without being seen to be hypocritical. They cannot give out white peace either, for the reasons you have just given. They really have no option but to humiliate them, which, to be frank, is not working. NPO will bounce back after a few months solid building, courtosy of white peace, and then we shall be having this discussion all over again. In fact, amybe we shall grow that pile of dead bodies ever higher

Well done CN, we're one step closer to building a pile of dead bodies to the moon, where cookies await us

To be honest, NPO are not going to be hurt. If Karma does make them hurt, then they are seen as hyporcrites. BUT if they dont make NPO hurt, then NPO are going to bounce right back, and we shall have another war in, say, 4 months (taking all bets ) In all homesty, Karma, even though they are going to win the war, is going to lose indefnatly. Either that, or they will form a new NPO, and the rest of us shall overthrow them in 6 months (again, taking all bets. Good odds for 7 months) Just my 2 cents

NPO may have attacked OV first, but it was Karma's poor handling of the negotiations that kick started it for the rest of it. They started the war politiclly, sorry if I didnt make that clear. Or, if I have COMPLEATLY missed everything and got everything confused, please feel free to correct me. Without insulting me if possible

And I disagree entirly with everyone who was involved should be punished. Karma started this war, and if Karma wins then good for them. But they shouldn't punish alliances for honouring treaties

OOC: Well done, a bit OOC, but what the hell. You were prob too drunk to notice after that

I think we're getting a bit off topic... but I agree with what is being said. We do need surrender terms inbetween 'White Peace' and 'your alliance is disbanded, *&% off'. Having said that, there should be indivudual terms sorted out for each alliance, as some alliances deserve more of whats comming to them than others. Please stop me if you figure out what Im trying to say here. I also feel that alliances that deserted, and players that deserted their alliances deserve all that they get. I would like to see all alliances harbouring known cowards and traitors to dispel them from their ranks for their previous alliance to deal with. I definatly feel that the people who deserted should be shunned at least, and their names known. Maybe just a public humiliation on the OWF would suffice, just so alliance leaders know who they cannot count on

Ahh, I always love a bit of the Vogon poetry

That...was...epic!!! Cant...speak...coherently...yet...still...in...shock...and...whatnot

I lol'ed at the vogon poetry also. Nice to have a bit of intergalactic awarness and all that, but couldnt we have some better poetry? Think of the children who read this forum!

Im hoping for another few billion to be killed by the end of this war

A noble speach. I wish you luck, but fear that the attack will not prevail

Good luck guys! make a considerable dent

You do get some %^£"*^$£", but generally I find that if there is a surrender, the people involved are pretty decent about it. I know I try to be

I liked this, and agreed with much of the parts that were not just simply raging at air. Basicly the bits of "treat enemy with respect" "dont spy" "Just a game" White peace" But I dont think its going to happen

Im in Zenith, so TPF are our allies