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[quote name='Arieg' date='01 March 2010 - 06:55 PM' timestamp='1267487937' post='2210460'] I've noticed that CN doesn't take into account the variety of methods and countermeasures to nuclear exchanges, then again it also doesn't take into account the finality of even a limited nuclear exchange. [/quote] This is true. Like you said earlier: nukes are the finisher, the deathblow.

[quote name='Sargun' date='01 March 2010 - 06:48 PM' timestamp='1267487507' post='2210446'] You're saying that the rules favor 15k NS nations without navies or nukes and still use cold war technology? [/quote] You're still hung up on size and strength for some reason. People don't remain small on purpose. They go into this kind of thing looking to grow. Even I'm guilty of that. Doesn't change anything. Everyone has their glorious vision of a setting that is ideal in their own eyes.

So I should just throw common sense out the window? Got it. Clearly, I can't use Cold War technology, even if the accepted rules say I can. Quite the conundrum. And for the last time, I don't care about size or strength. But there is an obvious division concerning who the rules favor; those who wrote them.

[quote name='Sargun' date='01 March 2010 - 06:21 PM' timestamp='1267485898' post='2210396'] Syria would have an SDI wonder. [/quote] Syria doesn't have satellites. EDIT: [quote name='Sargun' date='01 March 2010 - 06:21 PM' timestamp='1267485898' post='2210396']You offer one example. I offer another: It would be within Russia's capability to stall progress on an anti-missile system in Eastern Europe. It would not be within North Korea's to stall progress on an anti-missile system in China or South Korea.[/quote] Then that needs to be roleplayed, obviously.

[quote name='Sargun' date='01 March 2010 - 06:08 PM' timestamp='1267485117' post='2210371'][b]Reality is bent to cater to the strong in real life[/b], in CN, and in RP. This is, unfortunately, something you'll have to live with. [/quote] That's called a contradiction. It would be within Syria's capability, for example, to shoot down a nuke launched by the USA. This is Cold War technology versus modern technology. If you're going to impose technological limits, then you need to reinvent the technology. But I digress, if you get off on being a superpower on an RP forum, you have my condolences. This forum is meant for everyone, not a select few. I suggest going one way or the other: base everything off the game or nothing (except for, perhaps, stats). Otherwise, everything is arbitrary and specifically constructed to the tastes of a few individuals. This is neither sensible or productive for everyone.

Actually, it can be helped. I'm not talking about there being strong and weak nations, I'm talking about reality being bent to cater to the strong. Unless this is, unfortunately, just another board obsessed with their e-peens that I've stumbled into.

This sounds a little too much like the old nations looking after their own interests, what with the way the rules seem to be picked and chosen. The internet's not a threat to their power, so it doesn't have to be restricted, but anti-nuke missiles certainly are. Modern-day nations like Iran, Kazakhstan, and Syria can shoot down nukes and the only requirement for them is buying a few surplus Russian S-300V launchers, not investing a large sum of cash, elaborate satellite network, or missile defense network. I think this ruling should be revised, in fairness. The SDI could protect the entire country, while the ground-based versions (which come in limited quantities) could only protect certain cities or areas and count as cruise missiles. Just my two cents. You deviate from the game in some capacities, afterall (choppers are clearly not bombers). The old nations will still have all their old power, while affording a bit more sensibility to everyone else. I don't have a problem basing CNRP on the IG assets/nations. I just take issue with what looks like the old guard imparting a monopoly on power.

[quote name='Centurius' date='01 March 2010 - 04:01 PM' timestamp='1267477471' post='2210230'] You don't, you need a SDI to have your systems block nuclear weapons. [/quote] Considering the Patriot and S-300 alike use ground-based RADAR, it still doesn't make sense.

This is all kind of silly. So you need an SDI to even possess a Patriot or S-300 missile system? I don't see how that makes sense.

[center][IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/CKK.png[/IMG] Система коммуникаций Кисловский[/center] LVOV - A protest against the new leadership of Khislav was dispersed by the KOMOH following the announcement that the Slavic Union had released the new nation from it's rule. The demonstration reportedly has ties to Union loyalists who protested the secession from it's inception. The absence of several High Council members from deliberations seems to suggest their involvement in these disturbances; Minister Tatarin herself declared such collaboration with dissenters shameful and stated that the choosing of a Supreme Commander of Khislavite Armed Forces would be delayed until further notice. Several people were arrested following the break up, but only a few remain in custody pending charges of assault, destruction of property, and disorderly conduct. Three people were injured and released from the hospital. [right]- Igor Klopov, CKK[/right]

The Republic of Khislav welcomes a fellow newly sovereign nation. We look forward to a relationship with the Federation of Baskan.

[b]Khislav Factbook - Part V: Air Power[/b][list][*]1. [Fighters][*]2. [Bombers][*]3. [Transports][*]4. [Helicopters][/list] [center][IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/KhislavRoundel.png[/IMG] The roundel of the Khislavite Air Force[/center] [b]1. [Fighters][/b] [b]Kv-22A 'Fighter'[/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/Su-17K20K22K.jpg[/IMG] Characteristics:[spoiler][list][*]Crew: One [*]Length: 19.02 m (62 ft 5 in) [*]Wingspan: Spread: 13.68 m (44 ft 11 in) Swept: 10.02 m (32 ft 10 in) [*]Height: 5.12 m (16 ft 10 in) [*]Wing area: Spread: 38.5 m² (415 ft²) Swept: 34.5 m² (370 ft²) [*]Empty weight: 12,160 kg (26,810 lb) [*]Loaded weight: 16,400 kg (36,155 lb) [*]Max takeoff weight: 19,430 kg (42,835 lb) [*]Powerplant: Orlov K-76-110 afterburning turbojet Dry thrust: 76.4 kN (17,185 lbf) Afterburning: 109.8 kN (24,675 lbf)[/list][/spoiler] Performance:[spoiler][list][*]Maximum speed: Sea level: 755 kn (1,400 km/h, 870 mph) At altitude: Mach 1.7 (1,860 km/h, 1,155 mph) [*]Range: Combat: 1,150 km (715 mi) Ferry: 2,650 km (1,646 mi) [*]Service ceiling: 14,200 m (46,590 ft) [*]Rate of climb: 230 m/s (45,275 ft/min) [*]Wing loading: 443 kg/m² (90.77 lb/ft²) [*]Thrust/weight: 0.68 [*]G-force limit: 7[/list][/spoiler] Armament:[spoiler][list][*]Avionics: FK04 Komar RADAR [*]Payload: 4,000 kg (8,820 lb) [*]2x NR-30 30 mm cannons w/ 80 rounds each [*]Four fuselage, four wing glove, two wing pylons: R-60 AAM Kh-23 AGM Kh-25 AGM Kh-29 AGM Kh-58 AGM S-24 ASR UB-32/S-5/S-8 ASR SPPU-22 ACP FAB-250 GPB FAB-500 GPB KAB-500 LGB ZAB-500 FAE[/list][/spoiler] [b]Kv-24T 'Fencer'[/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/Su-24K.jpg[/IMG] Characteristics:[spoiler][list][*]Crew: Two [*]Length: 22.53 m (73 ft 11 in) [*]Wingspan: Spread: 17.64 m (57 ft 10 in) Swept: 10.37 m (34 ft 0 in) [*]Height: 6.19 m (20 ft 4 in) [*]Wing area: 55.2 m² (594 ft²) [*]Empty weight: 22,300 kg (49,165 lb) [*]Loaded weight: 38,040 kg (83,865 lb) [*]Max takeoff weight: 43,755 kg (96,505 lb) [*]Powerplant: 2x Orlov K-75-110 afterburning turbojets Dry thrust: 75 kN (16,860 lbf) each Afterburning: 109.8 kN (24,675 lbf) each[/list][/spoiler] Preformance:[spoiler][list][*]Maximum speed: Sea level: Mach 1.07 (1,315 km/h, 815 mph) At altitude: Mach 1.35 (1,625 km/h, 1,027 mph) [*]Range: Combat: 615 km (430 mi) Ferry: 2,775 km (1,725 mi) [*]Service ceiling: 11,000 m (36,090 ft) [*]Rate of climb: 150 m/s (29,530 ft/min) [*]Wing loading: 651 kg/m² (133 lb/ft²) [*]Thrust/weight: 0.60 [*]G-force limit: 6[/list][/spoiler] Armament:[spoiler][list][*]Avionics: Zima IRRS SPO-15 RWR Landish EW Aist-M TVRS Mak-UL MAWS SPS-161 ECM Kaira-24M EOS Tangazh ELINT Orion-A/Relyef RADAR [*]Payload: 8,000 kg (17,640 lb) [*]GSh-6-23 23 mm cannon w/ 500 rounds [*]Four fuselage, two wing glove, and two wing pylons: Kh-23 AGM Kh-25 AGM Kh-28 ARM Kh-29 AGM Kh-31 ARM Kh-58 ARM Kh-59 AGM R-60 AAM R-73 AAM S-13 ASR UB-32/S-5/S-8 ASR SPPU-22 ACP KAB-500 LGB ZAB-500 FAE[/list][/spoiler] [b]Kv-25F 'Foxhound'[/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/MiG-25K.jpg[/IMG] Characteristics:[spoiler][list][*]Crew: One [*]Length: 19.75 m (64 ft 10 in) [*]Wingspan: 14.01 m (45 ft 11.5 in) [*]Height: 6.10 m (20 ft 0.25 in) [*]Wing area: 61.40 m² (660.93 ft²) [*]Empty weight: 20,000 kg (44,080 lb) [*]Loaded weight: 36,720 kg (80,952 lb) [*]Max takeoff weight: 36,720 kg (80,952 lb) [*]Powerplant: 2x Orlov K-74-100 afterburning turbojets Dry thrust: 73.5 kN (16,524 lbf) each Afterburning: 100.1 kN (22,494 lbf) each[/list][/spoiler] Performance:[spoiler][list][*]Maximum speed: Sea level: 650 kn (1,200 km/h, 740 mph) At altitude: Mach 3.2 (3,500 km/h, 2,170 mph) [*]Range: Combat: 1,730 km (1,075 mi) Ferry: 2,575 km (1,600 mi) [*]Service ceiling: 20,700 m (67,915 ft) [*]Rate of climb: 210 m/s (40,950 ft/min) [*]Wing loading: 598 kg/m² (122.5 lb/ft²) [*]Thrust/weight: 0.41 [*]G-force limit: 10[/list][/spoiler] Armament:[spoiler][list][*]Avionics: Shar-25 ELINT TP-26Sh1 IRST/LR RP-26M Taifun-M2 RADAR [*]Payload: 1,800 kg (4,000 lb) [*]Two fuselage and two wing pylons: Kh-28 ARM Kh-58 ARM R-40 AAM R-60 AAM[/list][/spoiler] [b]Kv-26A 'Flogger'[/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/MiG-27K.jpg[/IMG] Characteristics:[spoiler][list][*]Crew: One [*]Length: 17.1 m (56 ft) [*]Wingspan: Spread: 13.8 m (45 ft 3 in) Swept: 7.4 m (24 ft 3 in) [*]Height: 5 m (16 ft 5 in) [*]Wing area: Spread: 37.35 m² (402.0 ft²) Swept: 34.16 m² (367.7 ft²) [*]Empty weight: 11,908 kg (26,252 lb) [*]Loaded weight: 18,100 kg (39,900 lb) [*]Max takeoff weight: 20,670 kg (45,570 lb) [*]Powerplant: Orlov K-81-123 afterburning turbojet Dry thrust: 81 kN (18,300 lbf) Afterburning: 123 kN (27,600 lbf)[/list][/spoiler] Performance:[spoiler][list][*]Maximum speed: Sea level: Mach 1.10 (1,350 km/h, 839 mph) At altitude: Mach 1.77 (1,885 km/h, 1,170 mph) [*]Range: Combat: 780 km (480 mi) Ferry: 2,500 km (1,550 mi) [*]Service ceiling: 14,000 m (45,900 ft) [*]Rate of climb: 200 m/s (39,400 ft/min) [*]Wing loading: 605 kg/m² (123 lb/ft²) [*]Thrust/weight: 0.62 [*]G-force limit: 8.5[/list][/spoiler] Armament:[spoiler][list][*]Avionics: Klen-PM LRF [*]Payload: 4,000 kg (8,800 lb) [*]GSh-6-30 30 mm cannon w/ 300 rounds [*]One centerline, four fuselage, and two wing pylons: Kh-23 AGM Kh-25 AGM Kh-28 ARM Kh-29 AGM Kh-31 AGM Kh-59 AGM S-13 ASR S-24 ASR UB-32/S-5/S-8 ASR SPPU-22 ACP FAB-100 GPB FAB-250 GPB FAB-500 GPB FAB-750 GPB KAB-500 LGB ZAB-500 FAE[/list][/spoiler] [b]Kv-27AS 'Flanker'[/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/Su-27K.jpg[/IMG] Characteristics:[spoiler][list][*]Crew: One [*]Length: 21.9 m (72 ft) [*]Wingspan: 14.7 m (48 ft 3 in) [*]Height: 5.92 m (19 ft 6 in) [*]Wing area: 62 m² (667 ft²) [*]Empty weight: 16,380 kg (36,100 lb) [*]Loaded weight: 23,430 kg (51,650 lb) [*]Max takeoff weight: 30,450 kg (67,100 lb) [*]Powerplant: 2x Orlov K-123 turbofans Thrust: 122.8 kN (27,600 lbf) each[/list][/spoiler] Performance:[spoiler][list][*]Maximum speed: Seal level: 723 kn (1,340 km/h / 832 mph) At altitude: Mach 2.35 (2,500 km/h, 1,550 mph) [*]Range: Combat: 1,340 km (800 mi) Ferry: 3,530 km (2,070 mi) [*]Service ceiling: 18,500 m (62,523 ft) [*]Rate of climb: 300 m/s (64,000 ft/min) [*]Wing loading: 371 kg/m² (76 lb/ft²) [*]Thrust/weight: 1.09 [*]G-force limit: 9[/list][/spoiler] Armament:[spoiler][list][*]Avionics: Pastel RWR SPS-171 ECM OLS-27 IRST/LR N010 Zhuk-27 RADAR [*]Payload: 8,000 kg (17,600 lb) [*]GSh-30-1 30 mm cannon w/ 275 rounds [*]Four fuselage, two wing glove, and four wing pylons: R-33 AAM R-37 AAM R-40 AAM R-60 AAM R-73 AAM[/list][/spoiler] [b]Kv-29MR 'Fulcrum'[/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/MiG-29K.jpg[/IMG] Characteristics:[spoiler][list][*]Crew: One [*]Length: 17.37 m (57 ft) [*]Wingspan: 11.4 m (37 ft 3 in) [*]Height: 4.73 m (15 ft 6 in) [*]Wing area: 38 m² (409 ft²) [*]Empty weight: 11,000 kg (24,250 lb) [*]Loaded weight: 16,800 kg (37,000 lb) [*]Max takeoff weight: 21,000 kg (46,300 lb) [*]Powerplant: 2x Orlov K-8300 turbofans Thrust: 81.4 kN (18,300 lbf) each[/list][/spoiler] Performance:[spoiler][list][*]Maximum speed: Sea level: 810 kn (1,500 km/h, 930 mph) At altitude: Mach 2.25 (2,400 km/h, 1,490 mph) [*]Range: Combat: 700 km (430 mi) Ferry: 2,100 km (1,800 mi) [*]Service ceiling: 18,013 m (59,100 ft) [*]Rate of climb: 330 m/s (65,000 ft/min) [*]Wing loading: 442 kg/m² (90.5 lb/ft²) [*]Thrust/weight: 1.01 [*]G-force limit: 10[/list][/spoiler] Armament:[spoiler][list][*]Avionics: SPO-15 RWR SPS-200 ECM KOLS IRST/LR N019 Sapfir-29 RADAR [*]Payload: 3,500 kg (7,720 lb) [*]GSh-30-1 30 mm cannon w/ 150 rounds [*]Two fuselage, two wing glove, and two wing pylons: Kh-28 ARM Kh-29 AGM R-40 AAM R-60 AAM R-73 AAM S-24 ASR FAB-250 GPB FAB-500 GPB FAB-750 GPB KAB-500 LGB ZAB-500 FAE[/list][/spoiler] [b]Kv-31F 'Firefox'[/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/MiG-31K.jpg[/IMG] Characteristics:[spoiler][list][*]Crew: Two [*]Length: 22.69 m (74 ft 5 in) [*]Wingspan: 13.46 m (44 ft 2 in) [*]Height: 6.15 m (20 ft 2 in) [*]Wing area: 61.6 m² (663 ft²) [*]Empty weight: 21,820 kg (48,100 lb) [*]Loaded weight: 41,000 kg (90,400 lb) [*]Max takeoff weight: 46,200 kg (101,900 lb) [*]Powerplant: 2x Orlov K-93-152 afterburning turbofans Dry thrust: 93 kN (20,900 lbf) Afterburning: 152 kN (34,172 lbf)[/list][/spoiler] Performance:[spoiler][list][*]Maximum speed: Sea level: Mach 1.2 (1,500 km/h, 930 mph) At altitude: Mach 2.83 (3,000 km/h, 1,860 mph) [*]Range: Combat: 720 km (450 mi) Ferry: 3,300 km (2,050 mi) [*]Service ceiling: 20,600 m (67,600 ft) [*]Rate of climb: 208 m/s (41,000 ft/min) [*]Wing loading: 665 kg/m² (136 lb/ft²) [*]Thrust/weight: 0.85 [*]G-force limit: 8[/list][/spoiler] Armament:[spoiler][list][*]Avionics: 8TK IRST APP-46TD CL N007 Zaslon-M RADAR [*]Payload: 1,800 kg (4,000 lb) [*]GSh-6-23 23 mm cannon w/ 260 rounds [*]Six fuselage and four wing pylons: Kh-31 ARM Kh-58 ARM R-33 AAM R-37 AAM R-40 AAM R-60 AAM R-73 AAM[/list][/spoiler] [b]2. [Bombers][/b] [b]Kv-16B/M/R 'Badger'[/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/Tu-16K.jpg[/IMG] Characteristics:[spoiler][list][*]Crew: Four [*]Length: 34.80 m (114 ft 2 in) [*]Wingspan: 33.00 m (108 ft 3 in) [*]Height: 10.36 m (34 ft 0 in) [*]Wing area: 165 m² (1,780 ft²) [*]Empty weight: 37,200 kg (82,012 lb) [*]Loaded weight: 76,000 kg (167,551 lb) [*]Max takeoff weight: 79,000 kg (174,165 lb) [*]Powerplant: 2x Orlov K-93 turbojets Thrust: 93.2 kN (21,000 lbf) each[/list][/spoiler] Performance:[spoiler][list][*]Maximum speed: 570 kn (1,050 km/h, 650 mph) [*]Range: 7,200 km (4,474 mi) [*]Service ceiling: 12,800 m (41,995 ft) [*]Wing loading: 460 kg/m² (94 lb/ft²) [*]Thrust/weight: 0.24[/list][/spoiler] Armament:[spoiler][list][*]Avionics: YeN-R RADAR Aist-M TVRS VSP-K Taifun PRTFS SPS-151D Lyutik ECM/ELINT [*]Payload: 9,000 kg (20,000 lb) [*]4x NR-23 23 mm cannons (dorsal, nose, tail, ventral) [*]One wing pylon and internal bay: KSR-5 AGM/ASM FAB-100 GPB FAB-250 GPB FAB-500 GPB FAB-750 GPB FAB-1000 GPB[/list][/spoiler] [b]Kv-21B/E/M 'Backdraft'[/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/Tu-22MK.jpg[/IMG] Characteristics:[spoiler][list][*]Crew: Four [*]Length: 42.4 m (139 ft) [*]Wingspan: Spread: 34.28 m (112 ft 6 in) Swept: 23.30 m (76 ft 5 in) [*]Height: 11.05 m (36 ft 3 in) [*]Wing area: Spread: 183.6 m² (1,976 ft²) Swept: 175.8 m² (1,892 ft²) [*]Empty weight: 58,000 kg (172,000 lb) [*]Loaded weight: 112,000 kg (247,000 lb) [*]Max takeoff weight: 126,000 kg (277,800 lb) [*]Powerplant: 2x Orlov K-245 turbofans Thrust: 245 kN (50,000 lbf) each[/list][/spoiler] Performance:[spoiler][list][*]Maximum speed: Mach 2.05 (2,327 km/h, 1445 mph) [*]Range: Combat: 2,410 km (1,500 mi) Ferry: 7,000 km (4,971 mi) [*]Service ceiling: 13,300 m (40,635 ft) [*]Rate of climb: 15 m/s (5,460 ft/min) [*]Wing loading: 688 kg/m² (147 lb/ft²) [*]Thrust/weight: 0.40[/list][/spoiler] Armament:[spoiler][list][*]Avionics: Miass EWS Kurs-N RWR SPS-171 ECM OBP-15T OBS SRS-13 ELINT PNA-B Rubin RADAR PRS-4 Kripton RADAR [*]Payload: 21,000 kg (46,300 lb) [*]2x GSh-23 23 mm tail cannons [*]Two wing pylons and internal bay: Kh-15 AGM Kh-20 AGM Kh-28 ARM KSR-2 AGM KAB-500 LGB ZAB-500 FAE[/list][/spoiler] [b]Kv-95B/E/M 'Bear'[/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/Tu-95K.jpg[/IMG] Characteristics:[spoiler][list][*]Crew: Seven [*]Length: 49.50 m (162 ft 5 in) [*]Wingspan: 51.10 m (167 ft 8 in) [*]Height: 12.12 m (39 ft 9 in) [*]Wing area: 310 m² (3,330 ft²) [*]Empty weight: 90,000 kg (198,000 lb) [*]Loaded weight: 171,000 kg (376,200 lb) [*]Max takeoff weight: 188,000 kg (414,500 lb) [*]Powerplant: 4x Lvov K-11 turboprops Power: 11,000 kW (15,000 shp)[/list][/spoiler] Performance:[spoiler][list][*]Maximum speed: 510 kn (920 km/h, 575 mph) [*]Range: 15,000 km (9,400 mi) [*]Service ceiling: 13,716 m (45,000 ft) [*]Rate of climb: 10 m/s (2,000 ft/min) [*]Wing loading: 606 kg/m² (124 lb/ft²) [*]Power/weight: 0.143[/list][/spoiler] Armament:[spoiler][list][*]Avionics: Pastel RWR Mak-UT MAWS SRS-13 ELINT Meteor-NM ECM Obzor-MS RADAR PRS-4 Kripton RADAR [*]Payload: 15,000 kg (33,000 lb) [*]2x AM-23 23 mm RADAR-guided tail cannons [*]Internal bay: Kh-15 AGM Kh-22 AGM Kh-55 AGM FAB-100 GPB FAB-250 GPB FAB-500 GPB FAB-750 GPB FAB-1000 GPB FAB-1500 GPB ZAB-500 FAE[/list][/spoiler] [b]Kv-160B/M 'Blackjack'[/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/Tu-160K.jpg[/IMG] Characteristics:[spoiler][list][*]Crew: Four [*]Length: 54.1 m (177 ft 6 in) [*]Wingspan: Spread: 55.70 m (189 ft 9 in) Swept: 35.60 m (116 ft 10 in) [*]Height: 13.10 m (43 ft 0 in) [*]Wing area: Spread: 400 m² (4,310 ft²) Swept: 360 m² (3,875 ft²) [*]Empty weight: 110 t (242,000 lb) [*]Loaded weight: 267 t (590,000 lb) [*]Max takeoff weight: 275 t (606,000 lb) [*]Powerplant: 4x Orlov K-137-245 afterburning turbofans Dry thrust: 137 kN (30,900 lbf) each Afterburning: 245 kN (55,100 lbf) each[/list][/spoiler] Performance:[spoiler][list][*]Maximum speed: Mach 2.05 (2,220 km/h, 1,380 mph) [*]Range: Combat: 7,300 km (4,536 mi) Ferry: 12,300 km (7,643 mi) [*]Service ceiling: 16,000 m (49,200 ft) [*]Rate of climb: 70 m/s (13,860 ft/min) [*]Wing loading: 743 kg/m² (152 lb/ft²) [*]Thrust/weight: 0.37[/list][/spoiler] Armament:[spoiler][list][*]Avionics: Sopka TFR Rus-NR RWR Mak-US MAWS OBP-15T OBS Obzor-K RADAR [*]Payload: 40,000 kg (88,185 lb) [*]Two internal bays: Kh-15 AGM Kh-55 AGM Kh-59 AGM KAB-500 LGB ZAB-500 FAE[/list][/spoiler] [b]3. [Transports][/b] [b]Kv-76C/R 'Crow'[/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/Il-76K.jpg[/IMG] Characteristics:[spoiler][list][*]Crew: Six [*]Length: 46.59 m (152 ft 10 in) [*]Wingspan: 50.5 m (165 ft 8 in) [*]Height: 14.76 m (48 ft 5 in) [*]Wing area: 300.0 m² (3,229.2 ft²) [*]Empty weight: 72,000 kg (159,000 lb) [*]Loaded weight: 112,000 kg (264,555 lb) [*]Max takeoff weight: 157,000 kg (346,000 lb) [*]Powerplant: 4x Orlov K-118 turbofans Thrust: 118 kN (26,500 lbf) each[/list][/spoiler] Performance:[spoiler][list][*]Maximum speed: 490 kn (900 km/h, 560 mph) [*]Range: 3,650 km (2,268 mi) [*]Service ceiling: 13,000 m (42,700 ft) [*]Wing loading: 566.7 kg/m² (116.05 lb/ft²) [*]Thrust/weight: 0.305[/list][/spoiler] Armament:[spoiler][list][*]Avionics: Pastel RWR Mak-U76 MAWS Kupol-76C RADAR PRS-4 Kripton RADAR [*]Passengers: Thirty [*]Payload: 40,000 kg (88,185 lb) [*]2x NR 23 mm RADAR-guided tail cannons [*]Cargo compartment and two wing pylons: FAB-500 GPB KAB-500 LGB[/list][/spoiler] [b]Kv-122C 'Carrier'[/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/An-22K.jpg[/IMG] Characteristics:[spoiler][list][*]Crew: Five [*]Length: 57.9 m (190 ft 0 in) [*]Wingspan: 64.4 m (211 ft 3 in) [*]Height: 12.53 m (41 ft 1 in) [*]Wing area: 345 m² (3,713 ft²) [*]Empty weight: 114,000 kg (251,330 lb) [*]Loaded weight: 194,000 kg (427,696 lb) [*]Max takeoff weight: 250,000 kg (551,000 lb) [*]Powerplant: 4x Lvov K-12 turboprops Power: 11,000 kW (15,000 shp)[/list][/spoiler] Performance:[spoiler][list][*]Maximum speed: 400 kn (740 km/h, 460 mph) [*]Range: 5,000 km (2,700 nm, 3,100 mi) [*]Service ceiling: 8,000 m (26,240 ft) [*]Wing loading: 945 kg/m² (173 lb/ft²) [*]Power/weight: 0.027[/list][/spoiler] Armament:[spoiler][list][*]Avionics: Pastel RWR Mak-UC MAWS Kupol-122 RADAR [*]Passengers: Thirty [*]Payload: 80,000 kg (180,000 lb) [*]Cargo compartment[/list][/spoiler] [b]Kv-124C/E 'Condor'[/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/An-124K.jpg[/IMG] Characteristics:[spoiler][list][*]Crew: Six [*]Length: 68.96 m (226 ft 3 in) [*]Wingspan: 73.3 m (240 ft 5 in) [*]Height: 20.78 m (68 ft 2 in) [*]Wing area: 628 m² (6,760 sq ft) [*]Empty weight: 175,000 kg (385,000 lb) [*]Loaded weight: 405,000 kg (893,000 lb) [*]Max takeoff weight: 405,000 kg (893,000 lb) [*]Powerplant: 4x Orlov K-230 turbofans Thrust: 229.5 kN (51,600 lbf)[/list][/spoiler] Performance:[spoiler][list][*]Maximum speed: 467 kn (865 km/h, 537 mph) [*]Range: 5,400 km (3,360 mi) [*]Service ceiling: 12,000 m (35,000 ft) [*]Wing loading: 365 kg/m² (74.7 lb/sq ft) [*]Thrust/weight: 0.41[/list][/spoiler] Armament:[spoiler][list][*]Avionics Pastel RWR Metel 2 ECM Mak-UC MAWS SRS-15 ELINT YeN-AMR RADAR [*]Passengers: Ninety [*]Payload: 150,000 kg (330,000 lb) [*]Cargo compartment[/list][/spoiler] [b]4. [Helicopters][/b] [b]Kv-6CH 'Hook'[/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/Mi-6K.jpg[/IMG] Characteristics:[spoiler][list][*]Crew: Six [*]Length: 33.18 m (108 ft 10 in) [*]Rotor diameter: 35.00 m (114 ft 10 in) [*]Height: 9.86 m (32 ft 4 in) [*]Disc area: 962.1 m² (10,356 ft²) [*]Empty weight: 27,240 kg (60,055 lb) [*]Loaded weight: 40,500 kg (89,285 lb) [*]Max takeoff weight: 42,500 kg (93,700 lb) [*]Powerplant: 2× Lvov K-4100 turboshafts Power: 4,100 kW (5,500 shp) each[/list][/spoiler] Performance:[spoiler][list][*]Maximum speed: 162 kt (300 km/h, ) [*]Range: 620 km (385 miles) [*]Service ceiling: 4,500 m (14,750 ft) [*]Disc loading: 44.17 kg/m² (9.05 lb/ft²) [*]Power/weight: 0.13[/list][/spoiler] Armament:[spoiler][list][*]Avionics Pastel RWR [*]Passengers: Seventy [*]Payload: 12,000 kg (26,400 lb) [*]Gun(s): DShK 12.7 mm nose machine gun [*]Cargo compartment[/list][/spoiler] [b]Kv-14GH 'Hind'[/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/Mi-24K.jpg[/IMG] Characteristics:[spoiler][list][*]Crew: Two [*]Length: 17.5 m (57 ft 4 in) [*]Rotor diameter: 17.3 m (56 ft 7 in) [*]Height: 6.5 m (21 ft 3 in) [*]Disc area: 235 m² (2,530 ft²) [*]Empty weight: 8,500 kg (18,740 lb) [*]Max takeoff weight: 12,000 kg (26,500 lb) [*]Powerplant: 2× Lvov K-1600 turboshafts Power: 1,600 kW (2,200 hp) each[/list][/spoiler] Performance:[spoiler][list][*]Maximum speed: 180 kn (335 km/h, 208 mph) [*]Range: 450 km (280 miles) [*]Service ceiling: 4,500 m (14,750 ft) [*]Disc loading: 402 kg/m² (82.4 lb/ft²) [*]Power/weight: 0.083[/list][/spoiler] Armament:[spoiler][list][*]Avionics: Rus-H RWR Meteor-M ECM Kaira-16M EOS FK07 Komar-2 RADAR [*]Passengers: Eight [*]Payload: 1,500 kg (3,306 lb) [*]Yak-B 12.7 mm minigun w/ 1,470 rounds [*]GSh-30K 30 mm autocannon w/ 750 rounds [*]Six wing pylons: MBD-4 MER 9K11 Shturm ATM 9M17 Phalanga ATM S-24 ASR UB-32/S-5 ASR UB-8V20/S-8 ASR UPK-23-250 ACP FAB-250 GPB FAB-500 GPB ZAB-500 FAE[/list][/spoiler] [b]Kv-16CH 'Halo'[/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/Mi-26K.jpg[/IMG] Characteristics:[spoiler][list][*]Crew: Six [*]Length: 40.025 m (131 ft 4 in) [*]Rotor diameter: 32.00 m (104 ft 11.8 in) [*]Height: 8.145 m (26 ft 9 in) [*]Disc area: 789 m2 (8,495 ft²) [*]Empty weight: 28,200 kg (62,170 lb) [*]Loaded weight: 49,500 kg (108,900 lb) [*]Max takeoff weight: 56,000 kg (123,500 lb) [*]Powerplant: 2x Lvov K-8300 turboshafts Power: 8,380 kW (11,240 shp) each[/list][/spoiler] Performance:[spoiler][list][*]Maximum speed: 160 kt (295 km/h, 183 mph) [*]Range: 1,952 km (1,240 miles) [*]Service ceiling: 4,600 m (15,100 ft) [*]Disc loading: 71 kg/m² (14.5 lb/ft²) [*]Power/weight: 0.093[/list][/spoiler] Armament:[spoiler][list][*]Avionics: Rus-16 RWR Mak-UHC MAWS [*]Passengers: Seventy [*]Payload: 20,000 kg (44,000 lbs) [*]Cargo compartment[/list][/spoiler]

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[b]Khislav Factbook - Part IV: Notable Individuals[/b][list][*]1. [Valinkovo Somonov][*]2. [Veronika Tatarin][*]3. [Nikolai Malkin][*]4. [Evgeny Abazy][*]5. [Ivan Holender][*]6. [Lesya Moszynski][*]7. [Kristof Nevski][*]8. [Abram Rusakova][*]9. [Marina Levkova][/list] [b]1. [Valinkovo Somonov][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/PresidentSomonov.jpg[/IMG] President Head of state of the Armed Republic of Khislav [b]2. [Veronika Tatarin][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/MinisterTatarin.jpg[/IMG] Prime Minister Head of government of the Armed Republic of Khislav [b]3. [Nikolai Malkin][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/MinisterMalkin.jpg[/IMG] State Minister Secretary of state of the Armed Republic of Khislav [b]4. [Evgeny Abazy][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/MinisterAbazy.jpg[/IMG] Justice Minister Secretary of justice of the Armed Republic of Khislav [b]5. [Ivan Holender][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/GeneralHolender.jpg[/IMG] Defense Minister Secretary of defense of the Armed Republic of Khislav [b]6. [Lesya Moszynski][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/MinisterMoszynski.jpg[/IMG] Interior Minister Secretary of interior of the Armed Republic of Khislav [b]7. [Kristof Nevski][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/MinisterNevski.jpg[/IMG] Intelligence Minister Secretary of intelligence of the Armed Republic of Khislav [b]8. [Abram Rusakova][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/MinisterRusakova.jpg[/IMG] Treasury Minister Secretary of treasury of the Armed Republic of Khislav [b]9. [Marina Levkova][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/MinisterLevkova.jpg[/IMG] Education Minister Secretary of education of the Armed Republic of Khislav

[b]Khislav Factbook - Part III: Major Corporations[/b][list][*]1. [ЛTБM][*]2. [ABo][*]3. [OK][*]4. [ОпЗМ][*]5. [ИC][*]6. [ОБРП][*]7. [CкК][/list] [b]1. [ЛTБM][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/LHMB.png[/IMG] Lvov Heavy Machine Bureau Львовское Тяжелое Бюро Машины Designers and producers of armored fighting vehicles such as IFVs and MBTs. [b]2. [ABo][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/EAA.png[/IMG] Eagle Air Arsenal Арсенал Воздуха орла The firm responsible for the development of Khislavite air power. [b]3. [OK][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/OKM.png[/IMG] Okay Motors Хорошо Двигатели Based in Stanislav, Okay Motors produces consumer and military vehicles. [b]4. [ОпЗМ][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/SDI.png[/IMG] Sword Defense Industries Отрасли промышленности Защиты Меча The largest defense contractor in the Republic; produces all manner of weapons. [b]5. [ИC][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/IS.png[/IMG] Information Systems Информационные Системы Producing electronics for air, land, and sea assets has proved big business for IS. [b]6. [ОБРП][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/PIWB.png[/IMG] Public Industry Works Bureau Общественное Бюро Работ Промышленности A corporate department of the government responsible for public works. [b]7. [CкК][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/KCN.png[/IMG] Khislav Communications Network Система коммуникаций Кисловский Both the telecommunications provider and state television source for Khislav.

The Republic of Khislav thanks the international community for it's warm welcome. All are invited to send their esteemed delegates to tour our nation. A very special thanks goes to the wise leadership of the Slavic Union for enabling some of it's people to practice self-determination. *PRIVATE* Khislav would gladly accept any aid the GDR might have to offer. We look forward to a lasting friendship.

[b]Khislav Factbook - Part II: Administrative Divisions[/b][list][*]1. [Nation][*]2. [Lvov][*]2. [Stanislav][*]3. [Transcarpathia][/list] [b]1. [Nation][/b] [center][img]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/KhislavMapColorWIP1.png[/img][/center] [b]2. [Lvov][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/FlagofLvovOblast.png[/IMG] Capital: Lvov [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/LvovCity.png[/IMG] The capital of the Republic of Khislav is Lvov; it is also the most densely populated oblast in the region. It is the center of government. [b]3. [Stanislav][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/FlagofStanislavOblast.png[/IMG] Capital: Ivano-Frankovsk [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/StanislavCountryside.png[/IMG] A rural area, much of the oblast is plains and steppe, allowing for a rich, pastoral backdrop to the nation's primary breadbasket. [b]4. [Transcarpathia][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/FlagofKhislavOblast.png[/IMG] Capital: Uzhgorod [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/KhislavCountryside.png[/IMG] The least populous oblast, called Zakarpattia by the locals. It is predominantly rural. Much of the oblast is covered in mountains.

[b]Khislav Factbook - Part I: National Dossier[/b][list][*]1. [Introduction][*]2. [Geography][*]3. [People][*]4. [Government][*]5. [Economy][*]6. [Communications and Transportation][*]7. [Military][*]8. [Transnational Issues][/list] [b]1. [Introduction][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Paper.jpg[/IMG] [b]Motto[/b]: “Никогда не забудьте, Никогда не прощают” “Never forget, never forgive” [b]National anthem[/b]: “Март Русского” “March of the Rus” [b]Background[/b]: -Khislav is an ancient region of Eastern Europe. It’s forests have long dominated the steppe in this region, though they are shrinking today from widespread industrialization. Gaining autonomy from the central Belorussian government, Khislav has never known a domestic monarch, and since it’s birth has been ruled by an elected official. Khislav is a unique nation in that citizenship and military service are the only requirements for public service or office. Khislav is notable as a nation with profound warrior tradition and religious tolerance. Despite it's relative youth, Khislav continues to gain influence. [center][IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Khislav/KhislavFlag.png[/IMG] The flag of the Armed Republic of Khislav[/center] [b]2. [Geography][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Geography.gif[/IMG] [b]Location[/b]: Eastern Europe, southwest of Slavic Union [b]Area[/b]: -Total: 48,510 sq km -Land: ? sq km -Water: ? sq km [b]Boundaries[/b]: 1,290 km -Border Countries: Slavic Federation, Slavic Union [b]Coastline[/b]: Landlocked [b]Maritime claims[/b]: None [b]Climate[/b]: Harsh winters, cool summers; transitional [b]Terrain[/b]: Generally forested with intermittent steppe [b]Natural Resources[/b]: Clay, gems, granite, gravel, natural gas, oil, sand, timber, wheat [b]Land use[/b]: -Arable land: 26% -Permanent crops: 8% -Other: 66% [b]Environmental issues[/b]: Deforestation, industrial pollution [b]Geographical notes[/b]: Landlocked, glacial scouring, 27 lakes, thick forestation [b]3. [People][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Introduction.png[/IMG] [b]Population[/b]: 787,000 [b]Birth Rate[/b]: 11.24/1,000 population [b]Death Rate[/b]: 8.72/1,000 population [b]Life Expectancy[/b]: -Total: 77.80 years -Male: 71.60 years -Female: 83.40 years [b]Fertility rate[/b]: 2.46 children born/woman [b]Nationality[/b]: -Noun: Khislavite(s) -Adjective: Khislavite [b]Ethnic groups[/b]: 88% Russian, 7% German, 4% Polish, 1% Other [b]Religions[/b]: 80% Eastern Orthodox, 11% Jewish, 6% Roman Catholic, 3% Other [b]Languages[/b]: Russian, German, Polish, other [b]Literacy[/b]: 99.7% [b]4. [Government][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Government-1.png[/IMG] [b]Country name[/b]: -Long: Armed Republic of Khislav -Short: Khislav -Local: Вооруженная Республика Кисловский [b]Government type[/b]: Totalitarian Democratic Republic [b]Capital[/b]: Norvagrad [b]Divisions[/b]: 3 provinces (oblasts) -Oblasts: Lvov, Stanislav, Transcarpathia [b]Independence[/b]: January 1, 1969 (from Slavic Union) [b]Constitution[/b]: March 8, 1969; heavily revised on November 5, 2008 [b]Legal system[/b]: Socialist, based on civil law with judicial legislative review [b]Suffrage[/b]: 18 years of age; naturalized armed forces veterans [b]Executive[/b]: -Chief of State: President Valinkovo Somonov -Head of Government: Prime Minister Veronika Tatarin -Elections: Ten-year terms, popular vote for candidates (peers) [b]Legislative[/b]: Unicameral High Council (110 seats; 10 per oblast, 20 per district) [b]Judicial[/b]: Supreme Court (judges appointed by President and High Council) [b]Political parties[/b]: -United Civic Party -Khislavite Communist Party -Khislavite Patriotic Movement -Party of Labor and Justice -Liberal Democratic Party of Khislav -Women’s Party for Khislav [b]International organizations[/b]: None [b]Flag description[/b]: Blue bars north and south, blue-shouldered, green wings over black hammer and sickle centered between, on a white field trimmed top and bottom [b]5. [Economy][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Economy.gif[/IMG] [b]Type[/b]: Mixed [b]GDP[/b]: $26,526,275,720 [b]GDP – per capita[/b]: $33,705 [b]Labor force[/b]: 490,000 [b]Unemployment[/b]: 0.7% [b]Agricultural products[/b]: Grains, vegetables, beef, and milk [b]Industries[/b]: Machinery, arms, trucks, earthmovers, fertilizers, textiles, timber [b]Oil production[/b]: 179,700 bbl/day (144,000 bbl/day exported) [b]Natural gas production[/b]: 165 million cu m (98 million cu m exported) [b]Exports[/b]: $2 billion [b]Export commodities[/b]: Machinery, arms, chemicals, foodstuffs, textiles, timber [b]Imports[/b]: $720 million [b]Import commodities[/b]: Mineral products, chemicals, foodstuffs, medicines, wealth [b]Trade partners[/b]: None [b]Economic aid - donor[/b]: N/A [b]Economic aid - recipient[/b]: N/A [b]Reserves[/b]: $12.5 billion [b]Currency[/b]: Khislavite Mark (K-Mark) [b]Fiscal year[/b]: Calendar year [b]6. [Communications and Transportation][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Communications.jpg[/IMG] [b]Telephones[/b]: -Land-lines: 620,000 -Mobiles: 500,000 [b]Television stations[/b]: 211 (plus 83 repeaters) [b]Internet code[/b]: .kv [b]Internet users[/b]: 470,000 [b]Airports[/b]: 2 [b]Heliports[/b]: 8 [b]Pipelines[/b]: gas 850 km; oil 720 km; other 930 km [b]Railways[/b]: 2,880 km [b]Roadways[/b]: 8,540 km [b]Waterways[/b]: 610 km [b]Ports and terminals[/b]: Khislav, Lvov [b]7. [Military][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Ammunition.jpg[/IMG] [b]Branches[/b]: State Army, State Air Force, Border Patrol, and River Defense Force [b]Military service[/b]: Compulsory, ages 18-37; conscript obligation: 20 months [b]Manpower[/b]: 47,590 [b]Vehicles[/b]: -APCs: 50 -IFVs: 75 -MBTs: 75 -SPAs: 50 [b]Aircraft[/b]: -Bombers: 4 -Fighters: 10 -Transports: 4 -Gunships: 5 [b]Ships[/b]: Riverine [b]Cruise missiles[/b]: 5 [b]Nuclear warheads[/b]: 0 [b]Expenditures[/b]: 20% of GDP ($5,305,255,144) [b]8. [Transnational Issues][/b] [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Issues.jpg[/IMG] [b]Disputes[/b]: Claims on Chernivtsi and Ternopil (Slavic Union) [b]Disease and drugs[/b]: AIDS and HIV rates nominal; opium use on the rise despite strict legislation and restriction [b]Legal[/b]: Human trafficking and money laundering are prevalent; prostitution is legal; illegal gambling is on the rise in low-income zones

OOC: Aye, that it is.

[center]The newly formed R E P U B L I C - O F - K H I S L A V announces it's sovereignty. [IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/CommanderSomonovSmall.png[/IMG][/center] [left]In the newly minted capital today, General Valinkovo Somonov announced - following a free election in the region - that he was to be Governor of the State of Khislav. Several days prior he worked tirelessly to come to an agreement with the Slavic Union for peaceful secession. The terms of these agreements are as yet unclear, but one thing is obvious: the people have spoken and wish to rule themselves. Little is known of the new Governor's history, save his exemplary military record and obviously strong work ethic. For now, at least one thing is certain, he and his cabinet (including notably Ms. Veronika Tatarin as Minister) have given this small, diverse, former corner of the Slavic Union a nation to call their own. The coming days will certainly be among the most important for this fledgling country.[/left] [center][IMG]http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/Flags/Khislav.png[/IMG][/center] [right]OOC: Never fear, I have gone through the necessary channels. Map location: [url=http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/GhostRazor/KProposal.png]here[/url].[/right]