WildThing

Care to elaborate?

I said inb4 (in before) da da da. You asked how I could get in after da da da. You should have asked how I could get in before da da da. Anyhow, just poking fun. No worries.

I was simply pointing out what they meant, not agreeing with them. However your analogous argument rather falls on it's face when it starts out with: 'TOP had every right to throw them under the bus'... But maybe that's just me delving to far into philosophical and political arguments on morality and law in society. Also I don't believe not telling them what their peace terms were equates to kicking someone in the groin. Being kicked in the groin really hurts you know. But yes, I do agree with the general idea behind what you're trying to say.

After = before. You certainly are stout in your convictions.

I do believe they meant politically.

inb4 Nemesis merges with Rok. Also where's Dilber when we need him.

That's been a pretty well known fact for a while. NPO's aura of invincibility was one of the main reasons people always bandwagoned with them rather than against them every war. Also I think it was more directed at TOP than MHA but yeah.

That has no relevance to my post but feel free to bump it again next time you get the time!

Citadel isn't growing as fast as everyone else... Not really surprising though. Let's see if people's war-boners can outlast their impatience.

I'm surprised Bel Air keeps bumping this thread... Also MK have always been arrogant pricks, stop acting like this is some new phenomenon since the Karma War.

People also pointed out that this is not some new trend explored by TOP only during the Karma War, but yeah, pretty much what you said. TOP really managed to put themselves in a !@#$ position.

Awaiting GOONs signing C&G.

What'd you expect when your argument was: 2+2=4, everyone that thinks 2+2=5 is stupid. Everyone thinks that. You came into this thread looking like a fool, you stayed looking like a fool and I rather think you're going to end up leaving looking like a fool. But that's nothing new I guess.

I imagine there'll be plenty more of this propaganda in the coming months as they're content to catch us in wonders whilst alienating us from the rest of the world. Then someone will get overly bored, something stupid will happen, and war will break out. Looking forward to it.

You really think if he had managed to gather statistics from every war in history the current leaders of this thread would look any better? Stick to the 'disregarding all contextual considerations' argument, and even that's fairly weak when it's obvious this thread was a jibe anyway, a successful one at that thanks to most of the posts here. Leaving the thread is probably the best course of action for most of us Citadel posters here. There is no treasure at the end of this rainbow.

Seeing as number points seem to be popular in this thread: 1. I thought it was creative. 2. Show me where else I've insulted you. Discussing moderation issues is also a warnable offense and remember: Take A Soviet Attack's advice. Really.

What're you gonna do? Spy on him?

To be honest, you're about as far off base as you could be. I was not joking.

Looks like you answered yourself there and added in something about TOP being oblivious which is another thing people arn't fans of I figure. It all comes down to jealousy in the end, it drives this game.

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I was under the impression Athens, and C&G as a whole were no fans of TOP long before this thread came about so yes, I would say taking Jack's opinion as demonstrative of that of the entire alliance would be reasonable. Jealousy. To be fair the Karma War could be seen building from miles off and while it was never absolutely clear who would win, after the logdumps in December and Ragnarok surviving unscathed it was reasonable to suspect NPO dominance was on the decline. Discussions about dropping Q months prior to the war don't really do anything to shrug the survivalist tag. I still TOP though.

You obviously havn't seen CYBERNETYUNS HISTERY! Also I take offense, trolling certainly does not imply defeat in an argument. There are many different types and styles of trolling, and many different times and places for which they can be applied. This 'simple, standard' trolling seems to fit the discussion pretty well to be fair. It's a simple stats thread that isn't taking into account anything other the amount of times alliances have not defended allies at war. Arguing about chaining treaties and how long people discussed canceling treaties beforehand does not really refute anything.

There's nothing wrong with alliances wanting to be the best. NPO are no longer the biggest or strongest alliance, or most well connected and it's only natural that they want to get back there. There is no argument against opening the red senate whether it's a PR stunt or not. Doing a good thing as a PR stunt is still doing a good thing and NPO will do what it takes to get back to #1 and then they'll do what it takes to stay at #1, no one is doubting that. Pretty much every announcement on this forum is some kind of PR stunt and I personally prefer when it's the big alliances making announcements and actually doing things rather than all these worthless micro-alliances. If NPO has some amazing plan to re-enslave us all then I say go for it. Bringing you guys down is all I remember in this game and frankly unless someone else starts behaving like a true tyrant I'm gonna get bored of this awesome new multi-polar world full of lollipops and rainbows pretty quick. That wasn't why I fought the Karma War.

So because there's no evidence this alliance ISN'T a /b/ alliance, and because MK is allied to them and apparently don't mind associating with /b/, this alliance is a /b/ alliance.. who not

I knew it! *Arrow denotes 'leads to'.