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President Gunn

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  1. [quote name='Marneus Calgar' timestamp='1336213233' post='2963923']
    Damn Invicta, going and treatying [u][b]tLR[/b][/u] right after we parted. That makes me a sad panda. :(

    Oh and on the subject of the acronym, I believe the better alliance keeps the capped letter, not the off-shot of a former Republic formed by people with their panties twisted. :lol1:

    Still, good to see Invicta pursuing it's own path.

    o/ and all that jazz.
    [/quote]
    TLR*
    And we have been treatied to them for a while, and they are one of the best alliances I know.
    Thanks

  2. [quote name='Jrenster' timestamp='1336199050' post='2963830']
    You might not necessarily be looking forward to it, but you certainly predicated it by stating "when we're are on the wrong side of a curbstomp".


    I didn't twist his words, I simply stated something he seemed to imply. I wasn't really far off. And except I didn't say dead for years, I said dead for a year. Something even you would proclaim:
    [/quote]
    Yes, but I didn't realize that until after it had been canceled. Before that I would of said the relationship was growing better every day, but when it was cancelled I saw the truth, it was never intended to be made better.

    Anyway I'll stop hashing out this stuff in this thread, good luck NPO o/

  3. [quote name='Jrenster' timestamp='1336197327' post='2963813']
    So now all of a sudden you're looking forward to our demise because we left Red Dawn and we cancelled a treaty that was basically dead a year ago? This seems like an unreasonable progression of hatred, but okay.
    [/quote]
    Nice way of twisting his words, and I still love the whole "dead for years" thing. ^_^

  4. [quote name='Kzoppistan' timestamp='1336060265' post='2962883']
    I had a very similar attitude before my tenure there. But I learned something: not everything is as it seems from the outside. I found out that the Legion runs the way it does because that's the way it works for them. They shun the constant maneuvering of power politics and focus on solid relationships. Just ask NpO or TLR or Invicta. They don't even show up on the OWF because they can't be bothered to engage in the PR smear campaigns thrown back and forth between the various camps.

    That they don't do anything interesting in your eyes is not their problem. They have a very active internal culture.

    [/quote]

    I have seen first hand that this is true, their internal culture is very distinct and frankly awesome. And yes they have worked towards building very solid relationships with TLRep and Invicta (I can't say anything about NpO cause I don't know, but I've seen it with TLRep and us) on the government and membership levels. This is why I personally would consider Legion one of our closest allies. A lot of alliances could learn from them about building relationships, but I won't point them out ;)

  5. [quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1335422701' post='2959641']
    Because we all [b]know [/b]it.


    I'm onto you, Brephosis, supreme puppetmaster combination of planet Bob.
    [/quote]
    At least Invicta, or so I hear.

    Interesting announcement at an interesting time.

    Edit: Typo

  6. [quote name='Steve Buscemi' timestamp='1334467309' post='2953636']
    Invicta Leader 1: Acquire CSN, lose NPO. Check.
    Invicta Leader 2: Wait....$&#@
    Invicta Leader 3: Is there an undo button? %$*#, now what?
    Invicta Leader 1: I don't know.
    Invicta Leader 2: WELL, FIND IT.
    Invicta Leader 3: Ask SOS Brigade, they are like the most awesome alliance in this game.
    Invicta Leader 1: They said they are too busy selling infra to earn extra cash.
    Invicta Leader 2: We are &$#*#*# then.
    Invicta Leader 3: We've always been $&#@*#.
    Invicta Leader 2: Good point.
    [/quote]

    Like we asked if there was an undo button. ^_^

  7. [quote name='Letum' timestamp='1334454785' post='2953538']
    We also agreed to "not forget the concerns laid down by each alliance" and "work towards correcting them". That didn't work out quite so much.

    Putting your differences behind you does not mean that they cease to exist. Differences like that are tangible things embedded in our respective policies. It means that you are making a clean break in an attempt to give it another chance. However, that "another chance" still needs to be successful in solving the fundamental divergence between the two alliances. If it doesn't succeed, you are still left holding to very different political paths.
    [/quote]

    Oddly enough we were able to put ours behind us or work them out. What concerns did you have that lead to the cancellation after the CSN treaty? You (you meaning Brehon/NPO) did not bring up a single thing regarding this treaty other than a "Go for it attitude."

    And I quote from the cancellation "With your PIAT I don't feel there is a way to stop information flow to SF" <- !@#$%^&* reason right here

    Thought you would of brought that up before now. Not say go for it, then a few days later "Hey we are cancelling because of it."

  8. [quote name='Brehon' timestamp='1334390534' post='2952977']
    Simple facts:

    The NPO Invicta relationship has been suffering for some time. There are many things that have happened, many discussions, arguments. It was not recovering, we were not getting along. The only time we did is when we simply stopped talking.
    [/quote]

    Is very interesting to see what you call "facts."
    The "simple fact" was that NPO and Invicta agreed to put our differences behind us once and for all [url="http://pacificorder.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=128836&view=findpost&p=5377822"]around the 8th of February this year[/url]. Immediately following this the relationship recovered a good bit, or well Invicta thought so. We thought we might of had a chance to work it out. Great to confirm some suspicions I had recently that you weren't ever going to let that happen. :awesome:

  9. [quote name='bakamitai' timestamp='1334419588' post='2953168']
    I know for a fact that Brehon was waiting to talk with you about just that when we got word that members of other alliances had been told of the impending cancellation. I would invite you to ask the other members of your gov how word got out, but I suspect you already know.
    [/quote]

    Yes because we leaked it. That is why a member of MK told me that someone in NPO told them :rolleyes:

  10. [quote name='Gandroff' timestamp='1334389794' post='2952957']
    So we're back to the brainwashed BR days then? I miss those. They were entertaining.
    [/quote]
    XD :wub:

    [quote name='Gandroff' timestamp='1334389794' post='2952957']
    How are we dictating anything? We don't agree with the path they want to take so we have split ways. Dictating would be threatening them in some way to do something we wanted.
    [/quote]
    I won't argue you. You are pretty much one of the only IO's I have always respected and liked. I will however say it would of been nice for NPO to say "We have some issues with this treaty, can we talk about?"

    We have come a long way since I $%&@ed up the SOS treaty.

  11. [quote name='Brehon' timestamp='1334388809' post='2952935']
    I don't have issues, just can't follow you on this path. Should have been cancelled in August. If I had a doubt about this decision, it ended with your actions and that of Shotgun last night.

    We both move on. You and I both know Nascar if we start this again, we are just going to get ugly with each other.
    [/quote]
    Shotgun who is retired gov, aka not gov? He was !@#$%*ed at a good bit.
    And me? Oh I'm sorry I wished you the best of luck, well actually I was wishing your membership that. I'll remember to never do that again, especially not in that private embassy! So sorry for doing that :rolleyes:

  12. [quote name='Brehon' timestamp='1334388417' post='2952928']
    The official reason is you need to stop playing your martyr and victim card and see about playing in political arena more your speed.
    [/quote]
    Lol. I'm pretty sure I could post the logs of "your official reason" that was total !@#$%^&*.

    [quote][19:58:44] <Thrash> Well, as you remember, we're still working with CSN.
    [19:59:03] <Thrash> on a PIAT.
    [19:59:17] <Thrash> If I recall correctly, you guys were okay with that.
    [19:59:52] <Brehon[NPO]> Yup, no issues [/quote]

    That was what? The third time was asked you? You give us a thumbs up that many times while we are talking to some our allies who had some questions about it and then when its posted. "Hey guys we can't trust you anymore."

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