Caesar di Cesare

Hence the mistake part. Glad you kept up.

Wow. Someone actually cared what Vox had to say? And it was you? Letting that reliquary of failures influence your decision-making may have been a mistake.

Me too. I bet it will be sexy.

Like those deathstars, eh? Sorry, Chimmy, I had to do it.

Spin cycle. I mean this in more ways than one of course. Keep coming around. It's worked out well so far.

The same that VE does.

Because we have a reason to punish and we were refused satisfaction at the peace table. Please, you have to be trying to be this obtuse.

I think that people can do as they please and enjoy the consequences... as they have repeatedly in the past to no interesting effect.

Or even reasonable ones apparently.

Yes. Hypocrisy has been a successful strategy in the past. Keep doing the same thing over and over again and hoping for different results. Let's see which of us gets frustrated first.

Spying on our allies? Check. Admission of guilt? Check. Reneging on good faith negotiations of a peaceful settlement? Double check. Ignoring a charitable offer to limit punishment to guilty individuals? Check. Hmm... Yeah. This CB is no good. Your superior logic has convinced me that I am evil. Can't wait to see the bandwagon that trolls up to our doorstep hoping for a crack at "ending the hegemony". I bet their CB's will be bulletproof.

Let us know when you've had enough paying for the crimes of your leadership, OV. If we can hear you over the destruction of your pixels, we may take momentary pity.

The phrasing of the announcement is regrettable. Given that it was made without the express authorization of bigwoody, please try to avoid stereotyping the alliance from this incident. Obviously, feel free to stereotype us from other things.

As a former leader of LoSS and current member of TORN, I can tell it more honestly than anyone else. LoSS is an alliance full of savvy, ambitious players. They know the game. They have survived under conditions that would have caused any other alliance to disband. They make smart moves. I can speak about some from direct experience. The LoSS-TPF treaty? Yeah, that started as a handshake between TheBigBad and myself. We looked at a situation facing our alliances and saw something in our mutual interest, and the trust held between two friends built that treaty. A lot of agreements were made that way. When the players who built them move on, things fall by the wayside. Unintentionally. Accidentally. The truth is, a number of LoSS's treaties had begun to stagnate this way, and it can't be blamed entirely upon them because the burden for maintaining a relationship is incumbent upon both parties. People may be critical of the timing of a cancellation that comes at a time of uncertainty and speculation, perhaps a time of impending war, but I cannot think of a better time to take stock of the value one places in relationships and to assess whether and to what extent the relationships even exist. LoSS found that their principles were incompatible with the actions of treatied alliances with which they felt little affinity after time. So they made a big cancellation move. So people got pissed off and called them classless or cowards. Whatever. They're honest. They're smart. And as for TORN? Well. That sort of thing, smart, honest, or otherwise, is incommensurable with our philosophy of allies. So we go separate ways. Dial down the rhetoric. Everyone is just doing what needs to be done.

Aww... I remember making one of those! Oh well, do what you have to do.

I'm in favor of both. The tech change adds a new dynamic to battle planning and nation building. The GRL change will discourage irresponsible use of nuclear weapons in alliance warfare.