Michael von Prussia

[quote name='AlDei' timestamp='1298576981' post='2644027'] I'm glad to see the alliance active on these forums. I am a new member & if I may speak on the alliance's behalf, I'd like to say it is a very welcoming & united group. Faith not only binds us but guides us, here in [i]Jamahiriya[/i]. [/quote] Very well said! [img]http://209.85.62.24/96/196/0/e176860//e176860.gif[/img]

I think you have succeeded where others have failed: to give a purpose and meaning to leftism in the Cyberverse. Very, very well done, Trikoupis.

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[quote name='berbers' timestamp='1298208743' post='2639403'] [quote name='Yevgeni Luchenkov' timestamp='1298159075' post='2638730'] Checked the blog entry. Not that major of an issue - it could have been much more unsavoury - but a very unpleasant thing to do to another CNer nevertheless. Sorry it happened to you, AvT and hope you'll stay with us. [/quote] Going to have to disagree with you, AvT is 36..... if you were 22 and your uni prof got e-mailed that, it'd be different, but when it's your boss and you are trying to explain how someone from an online nation building game decided to "troll" you, it's going to get uncomfortable. All the best AvT, hopefully you can just tell them it's identify theft or something and not have to get into details. [/quote] To be perfectly honest, I think it's despicable regardless of the circumstances. [i]Any[/i] transgression between an online community and someone's real life is a big deal. Sometimes a big deal is warranted: contacting the authorities in someone's jurisdiction if they came into this or any other community and posted child pornography, for example. That is not the case here, however. Someone had an IC hate-on, mixed it with OOC stupidity, and the result was an entirely unwarranted and utterly despicable invasion of someone else's life.

Congratulations to our allies in UCR and our friends in NEAT! Hopefully this will be the start of a prosperous friendship.

What, like, steal their computer Haruhi-style?

Absolutely despicable

Very sad to see these kind of OOC transgressions. Anyone participating in it ought to be ashamed of themselves.

On the default forum skin, IP.Board, there appears to be no way to easily access the members list. The "Members" tab on the CleanCut skin links to the members list at URL [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?app=members&section=view&module=list"]http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?app=members&section=view&module=list[/url]; on the default skin, however, the tab's link is [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?app=members"]http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?app=members[/url] and displays my member profile instead of the member list.

[quote name='DictatatorDan' timestamp='1298059967' post='2637702'] INT-SOS relations that took place before the treaty was even signed have absolutly nothing to do with Rectum Invigortorum's safety or well-being. Let's recognize this for what it is. A bunch of childish !@#$%^&*. [/quote] Actually, as you may note from the screenshots depicting INT's reaction to the Invicta treaty being announced, the shared information was from after the treaty was signed. Furthermore, as I believe ShotgunWilly pointed out in this thread, since the C&G bloc is directly opposed to Invicta, and given the unsavory, borderline-threatening remarks a certain INT government member was making about Invicta in the shared information, it very much does relate to Invicta's security. Posting in bright and annoying colors to make yourself feel special, now [i]that's[/i] childish. Sharing information with valued allies pertaining to their alliance security, that's just common sense.

[quote name='neneko' timestamp='1298035405' post='2637536'] They openly supported the people hitting int here on owf [/quote] Could you kindly post links to these supposed posts? [quote name='neneko' timestamp='1298035405' post='2637536'] they then proceeded to sign a treaty with an alliance that tie them directly to a power bloc opposing int [/quote] That's fair enough. [quote name='neneko' timestamp='1298035405' post='2637536'] can we please stop acting like we're shocked that it lead to int cancelling the treaty? Because that wasn't really a big surprise and it doesn't reflect bad on int no matter how much you people try to spin it. [/quote] I'm not shocked, nor do I think most of the people posting here are. When an alliance starts treating a treaty like they don't exist, one signatory or another is bound to cancel it. [quote name='neneko' timestamp='1298035405' post='2637536'] A footnote for those arguing that no SoSb gov have commented on this, I think Arrnea (sp?) would count as gov since he is their leader on paper at least. [/quote] [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?app=forums&module=extras&section=stats&do=who&t=98766]Arrnea has not commented on this.[/url]

[quote name='Finnish Commie' timestamp='1298032717' post='2637513'] How is this a matter of someone being in the wrong? One alliance decided to cancel on another alliance, that's pretty much all there is to it. [/quote] Yeah, but political decisions aren't made out of the blue, are they? It's cause and effect. You'd not start a war and then say, when someone questions your reasons for doing so, [i]"How is this a matter of someone being in the wrong? One alliance decided to declare on another alliance, that's pretty much all there is to it."[/i] Unless you're Doom House, perhaps. This is the same thing: you cancel a treaty, and when someone (several someones, in fact) questions your reasons for doing so, you pull out "there was no reason"? Yeah, right, and I'm a purple hippo.

[quote name='Lord Gobb' timestamp='1298028612' post='2637500'] I'm sorry, what exactly are you saying here? That INT can't say POS Brigade was in the wrong because they themselves were at fault too? [/quote] They can say whatever they want. What [i]I'm[/i] saying is that it is my belief, having considered the evidence presented, that the SOS Brigade was [i]not[/i] in the wrong whatsoever, and that any mistakes they made pale in comparison to the way INT treated them and treated the relationship between their alliances in the past weeks.

/me looks up at Jgoods' post [quote name='Cataduanes' timestamp='1298013690' post='2637436'] Right, so SOS are angels and never $%&@ed anything up [/quote] Glad you agree with me No, but seriously, every alliance has made errors. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the way you !@#$ all over your treaty with SOS団 and then have the nerve to claim that they're in the wrong.

[quote name='Jgoods45' timestamp='1298006101' post='2637337'] Yes. Yes they are indeed. I'm glad you agree with this fact. :3 [/quote] Please, address my points or shut up. Just because you're a master at ignoring inconvenient facts doesn't make your doing so any less transparent.

[quote name='Diego Rivera' timestamp='1297994704' post='2637149'] The actions of SOS after the cancellation only confirm that we made the right decision. [/quote] There's not been a single post by an SOS団 member in this thread, which as far as I know is the only relevant one. [quote name='Jgoods45' timestamp='1298004711' post='2637313'] I'll clarify myself. Before the treaty was cancelled. Done. :3 [/quote] Right. Does "before the treaty was canceled" include all that time when INT was threatening to cancel on them if they didn't comply with INT's demands? Or the period which included Craig's harassment of SOS団 government when someone [i]not even in the alliance[/i] at the time, Bernkastel, made his position known about INT's entering C&G? How about the time including Muted Faith's [i]lovely[/i] conduct, which as has been pointed out, was a violation of the treaty? Yes, [i]SOS団[/i] is the rotten side of this pairing

[quote name='Jgoods45' timestamp='1297994324' post='2637143'] Normally when information is passed between two allies, that information stays between those two allies unless explicit permission is given to share that information with third parties. That is not what has happened here. [/quote] INT and SOS団 are allies? This is news to me.

[quote name='flak attack' timestamp='1297965615' post='2636749'] There are few alliances objectively worse than Invicta, but yes, Jamahiriya is one of them. [/quote] I have to agree with you. [url=http://i.imgur.com/snUYh.png]We're [i]much[/i] worse than Invicta.[/url] So much worse that we're under their protection. Y'know, being protected by an alliance that's worse than you are really wouldn't be very efficient. [quote name='Jgoods45' timestamp='1297968109' post='2636780'] In Athens, its a normal procedure but we do one better and go over to their forums and the IRC channels we have with each other. ~ :3 [/quote] [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=98677]Yes, and we all know how you treat your allies.[/url]

[quote name='Baron Terror' timestamp='1297963826' post='2636737'] As for the other !@#$ why the hell can't MF say how he feels, being MoFA doesn't mean you have to play nice with all the other children now does it? [/quote] Actually, I think that's the job of any diplomat, especially when you have a treaty with the children you're playing with saying you'll play nice with each other. In fact, the part of the treaty you just set on fire after walking all over for a few weeks that said that you should play nice was deemed so important it was the very first article, and it applies to [i]all[/i] members of both alliances. The fact he's deputy MoFA just makes him appear even more incompetent than he was already acting, which is quite a feat if I do say so myself.

Congratulations, SOS団, on getting rid of terrible allies.

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Glad to see this announced! o/ Irredentism o/ Rjvkmsc

[quote name='rsoxbronco1' timestamp='1297740408' post='2633882'] Making decisions that you don't like doesn't earn us the title of lapdog. [/quote] Tromping all over your treaty partners earns you the title of jerk, though.

This is a very sad day. Best of luck to the members of the German Empire in finding new homes. o/ TGE

About damned time.