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[quote name='Brehon' timestamp='1320528215' post='2839792'] The sheer fact you don't see the problem here IS the problem. You may miss leadership of the past, but I am thankful you are not leadership. See two can play the tit for tat game. [/quote] I don't see a problem with sovereign alliances acting in whatever manner they see fit. Whether I agree or disagree with said decision.

[quote name='Brehon' timestamp='1320527948' post='2839790'] yet no choice to continue to war... you are missing that part. But that is fine, explaining this to you means exactly jack and squat. [/quote] They are free to continue their war with each other, while new adding new fronts. What don't you understand? I miss the leadership of the past, and I never thought I'd say it.

[quote name='Brehon' timestamp='1320527363' post='2839783'] I asked a question for understanding. I also had the good sense to talk to your boss about it. If I were trying to interfere I would not go about it this way. So slow your roll before you find you have NO idea what you are talking about. Besides in this case you can't talk about MK and VE using their rights without talking about the rights of Legion and Tetris. See it works both ways. [/quote] You can talk to whoever you want about it, it's of no consequence to me. You asked a question and I answered it for you. Legion, Tetris, and NSO all have the right to declare peace or defend themselves.

[quote name='Brehon' timestamp='1320524203' post='2839763'] Someone explain to me why each alliance doesn't have the right to make their own choices without strong arm interference? [/quote] Seems to me that both MK and VE used their right to make their own choice regarding the matter. Now high ranking officials of other alliances, such as yourself, are trying to interfere through political pressure on this forum. :confused:

Goodnight sweet prince *saLUEte*

[quote name='Leet Guy' timestamp='1320179364' post='2836670'] Everyone is confusing "attack" and "aggression" right now. NSO did [i]attack[/i] the Legion, but it was [i]in defense[/i] of Tetris. [/quote] The only people that don't quite seem to understand such a simple concept are from The Legion. It's not surprising, really.

[quote name='LordDarknessOfLight' timestamp='1320122014' post='2836248'] This is all im going to say.. This drama is better then soap operas [/quote] It really isn't. An alliance coming out of left field and rolling both alliances would be entertaining.

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1320085991' post='2835867'] You're missing the point, and it doesn't surprise me. There is no other war. [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=106320&st=880&p=2835830&#entry2835830]Quit wasting my time, and go back to your litter box with the rest of whatever of you are. [/url] [/quote] ah it's come to this. As I said, it's not my job to educate you. Your alliance has been around for a very long time, so they should be well aware of situations where smaller alliances, beat larger more powerful alliances. It has happened, and I was here to witness it.

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1320085696' post='2835859'] Show me one other war in history that the coalition with less NS/Members/etc. won. [/quote] It's not my job to educate you on history. That is the job of your failing alliance.

Sad to see this *saLUEte*

[quote name='WarriorConcept' timestamp='1320085130' post='2835845'] To be fair to legion they were outnumbered until just this announcement. At this point I assume they are outnumbered in the lower tier as well, which is where NSO's nations prominently are. Whether they are still a joke militarily or not may now be arguable. They did face a bigger coalition than themselves and handled themselves well despite what we all (myself included) expected. Does this one war automatically fix their reputation? Of course not, but it's a good step towards it. Whether they reach that goal or not, that's left to see. [/quote] I understand where you're coming from. However, my point is, that you cannot make a special exception for The Legion, just because they are the laughing stock of the world. Any other self respecting alliance would be laughed at for the kind of poor showing we are witnessing. I guess when the bar is set lower than the floor, that any space between the floor and air is impressive.

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1320084565' post='2835832'][color="#0000FF"]I never said I did not understand tactics. I just said that I myself, as an individual, am a poor fighter when up against five or six nations twice my size.[/color] [/quote] It's nice to see you admit that. Don't know how anyone ever thought you were on the level of Ivan the Terrible, Diskord, WC, or myself.

[quote name='WarriorConcept' timestamp='1320084207' post='2835821'] Why ask for white peace if their members still want to cause destruction? [/quote] If the leaders of my alliance weren't asking for a white peace during any war, I think there would be something wrong. If you're implying that conversations of white peace, is the same as surrender, then you certainly haven't learned anything during your many years here. If The Legion was as strong as you suggest, why would they let NSO nations into peace mode citing "It's hard to keep nuclear anarchied nations staggered." We both know they are a joke.

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1320084170' post='2835820'] PR =/= morality. PR is how the world perceives you. Morality is doing what is right. STA is as moral as they come, but has questionable PR because they have alienated many people in their moral stance. As with OBR, they are strong and moral, but they are considered all but neutral and, therefore, have negative PR. NSO is as immoral as it comes, but their "strategic withdrawals" and are [b]always[/b] for PR. [/quote] You're missing the point, and it doesn't surprise me. PR is a waste of time and effort, the weak babble on and on about it. Morality is even worse than PR. To even question any thought that you may have as "right" or "wrong" is weak, you are always right. NSO "strategic withdrawals" can't be any worse than The Legion's ability to sit on the sideline when it should act or look bad in a conflict it should dominate. Quit wasting my time, and go back to your litter box with the rest of whatever of you are.

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1320083911' post='2835818'] ~50% of their alliances NS is in peace mode and ~85% of that has been in peace mode over 5 days. If they really wanted to cause destruction, 42.5%* of their alliances total NS could come out of peace mode right now. * = [size="1"]85% of 50% of a total is .85*50 right? Math is not my forte apparently..[/size] [/quote] If those nations entered peace mode during you war with NSO, that is a tactical failure on your part and I wouldn't be throwing those numbers out there. People already think you're an incompetent joke, no reason to make it any worse.

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1320083666' post='2835815'] Everyone knows that if NSO brings in RoK it will end up being a PR nightmare, therefore, they will not enter the conflict. Although they (rightly) believe that they get an advantage in surrender term negotiations by posturing and/or implying their allies may join the war... which is why we have 40 pages of them doing that here. That said, I would like to recommend all Legionnaires (and our supporters) leave this thread, though I acknowledge I hold no sway over anyone. [/quote] Wake up, PR is senseless. All of you speak of morality, and continuing to walk the righteous path. It's a joke. I would applaud NOS for bringing in allies. It would be a bold move, and one that their leaders should be debating seriously. The standard by which all of you try to act by is sickening, and I hope that it blows up in your face.

[quote name='WarriorConcept' timestamp='1320083304' post='2835812'] The dumb situation might have been referring to just accepting the fact that you were defeated, then ending the war. [/quote] Why end a war that you're still doing damage in? The rate of said damage is irrelevant. If their members still want to cause destruction, then there is no reason to agree to terms.

[quote name='WarriorConcept' timestamp='1320077504' post='2835729']This has already done that, to call in more people now is different than anything in history.[/quote] Sometimes the world needs to be shaken up a bit, especially in regards to The Legion. They are like a litter box that hasn't been cleaned in six years. The sand is trying to mask the smell, and we all pretend it isn't there, but it's there....festering.

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1320015390' post='2835260'] [color="#0000FF"]I have never said I was any good at war.[/color][/quote] Can't be any worse than the legion.

I keep getting the same thing, from someone named Mary. Weird.

[quote name='SirWilliam' timestamp='1320007636' post='2835190'] What I gather from this thread is that The Legion now thinks it's hot !@#$. [/quote] It never was, it never will be.

[quote name='Isaac MatthewII' timestamp='1319982834' post='2835002'] also mabye CN and.... certain Moderating...um...teams will grow their stuff back and stop acting like we have to be politically correct about everything and must follow the rules like its the bible.... maybe [/quote] My warning bar will be filling up pretty quickly, if that's the case.

Glad to see the GPA still going strong.

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1319861187' post='2834222'] I remember you but I don't think you remember me, you were in CDS right? [/quote] Indeed, I was.

I'm coming back from the dead.