TIEIXIAIS
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You're not standing up for "What's right" though, Blood Pack is attacking an alliance because they defended themselves, nothing more, nothing less, you have no moral high ground to stand upon.
Here we go again with "What is right" is objective. LoLz argument.
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Ooooooh big words! Nice! Its almost as if you matter more with the greater use of syllables!
Never has "WTF opinion" been presented as fact. We honestly cant be bother to lie about things we care so little about. The truth has been presented as fact. Brute force en masse lies dont make something true just because one chimpanzee repeats it back after he learns it from another, like using a tool for the first time. Funny how you're accusation with proof was corrected on our forums with a pm from Cuba himself, and you never replied again. Though I suspect you were muzzled, for the second time, more than being too intelligent to be embarrassed by the clarification of what you thought was true.
I would think the fact that no one in DBDC has ever posted in support of your statement should be enough. Apparently not.
You're internet-cool speak is cute, but not nearly as cute as you trying to come to the rescue of your lying compatriot by calling me horribly means names that will keep me awake all night.
I was never muzzled the first time and especially not the second.
I opted to ignore you fine gentleman because I didn't find it worth arguing against OOC attacks in regards to my parents. Once you civilized primates talked about fornicating my mother and father I opted out.
If you care so little I fail to see why you keep coming back to rage. -
You said it happened on IRC, you were wrong. In reply, you said "Then it was the forums". Again, wrong.
No reading comprehension required, your words are pretty simple to follow. Unless you aren't using them correctly perhaps? Then again.
The "arrogant" part somewhat hurts my feelings if we're being honest. Strictly because when taking into account the source of the observation apparently doesn't know what the word means, and that it actually applies to them.
Arrogant- having or showing the insulting attitude of people who believe that they are better, smarter, or more important than other people.
As if somehow you can just make up lies, and then change them, and they should just be right and override the truth because you say it is so. If you'd stop lying for the sake of trying to get someone to look at you? You won't have to fall on your face and embarrass yourself when you trip over them.
Oh look, it's Ramirus Maximus.
It happened on the forums. Your forums are public people can see it. I've even quoted you and we are the liars.
You aren't arrogant, you're hilariously confident.
You and your halfwits go around saying "Proof or it didn't happen" and when we show proof and quoted text you proceed with OOC attacks and "You're stupid." Your laughing emojis I'd have to say have been your most effective argument!
Also "WTF's opinion is fact" is a pretty hilarious argument too. As if your opinion is legitimized because you call it fact.
You're brain is selectively permeable to dimwitted ideas. All I see are rage posts by you. Go basque in your hole disease with your OOC insults and LOLz emojis.
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Next year just declare on some one, burn a punch of pixel in a day, then back off and call it april's fools joke.
But he worked so hard too mock doomsquad/doomkingdom. :(
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You sound butthurt that the easy exp/land TBR offered you isn't happening.
What do you expect after DBDC knocks down these huge nations with giant WCs? You're sitting there throwing rocks at their ankles. Of course they're gonna wreck you on the way out.What are you going on about? You sound like the crazy cat lady next door.
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I didnt say anything about 'desperate' I dont know the warchest amounts etc. Bloodpack seems to be doing fine in terms of destruction. But destruction doesnt get noobcakes peace, does it? And again I dont know his warchest but if it's good why is he trying to run to ODN?
If it had been my raid I would feel some obligation to him here.
Heck, it's not my raid and I am still feeling bad for him. All this war in his name but no one makes any genuine effort to get him peace.
Peace has been offered. WTF will either accept it or receive the same fate of the previous gramlins. It's self destructive which is why all their whining and self loathing is hilarious.
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Look Caliph, even accepting your rather contrived analogy, the aggressor is still the aggressor. I really dont get this idea that just because the guy you attacked fights back you are the victim. Like the burglar that broke his leg and sued the homeowner?
Y'all are the dark knights of this game, the evil badasses (nearly) everyone fears, and it is just so bizaare to see you try to play the victim. Even OOC?
As to the actual tactical situation... I'll tell you how I see this.
This was supposed to go down like the Pax raid. Knock em down out of range neatly before they knew what was happening and then disengage smelling like roses. The targets would have been rather strongly incentivized to grumblingly accept the status quo.
But WTF was larger than Pax. More people were needed. Spirits were high, volunteers in abundance, so more people were brought in. Too many, and some with insufficient individual NS. And to complicate matters, unlike Pax, WTF was willing to blow warchest to buy back in range. A few, I am not sure how many but noobcakes and I gather a few others, just a few of the doombirds were pulled under and continue to be engaged.
So at that point it's DBDC that needs the war to end, not WTF. And you can keep talking about damage ratios and so on all day but it's utterly irrelevant. War isnt about numbers, war is about outcomes. They've taken all the damage and they know they cant undo it, but they've got one lever in the process and how could you not anticipate they would torque it just as hard as they could?
From what Asa has written I would bet they have been willing to accept just about any offer made, but none have really been made. Letting it be generally known that you are expecting white peace is not the same thing, and let's not even mention a certain bunch of oranges trying to play the goons. That's not diplomacy, that's insulting.
Are noobcakes and whoever else is in play here really so important as to motivate BloodPack, yet not important enough for anyone to offer even 100 tech for their parole? It defies reason.
DBDC has knocked them out of range....they can't do anything. Now they are just getting raided by micros. Where do you see this desperate need for peace on DBDC's part? Cuba and Renegade? You serious bro?
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They didn't choose to be attacked.
They chose to continue the conflict. It's on them. But please, keep buttering up to them. They'll serve as a fine replacement for Valhalla.
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Ah OK. You got me confused when you said that the WTF would have been "keeping the DBDC at war". It seemed like you were saying that the WTF was refusing to consider discussing any deal to end it.
I now see that you instead meant that the WTF just didn't agree with the specific offer the DBDC had made to them.
Thanks for your explanation.The ball was put in WTF's court, and considering they have offered nothing within reason or anything at all, they are the perpetrators at this point. WTF is only damaging itself at this point and to expect DBDC to pay for self WTF's inflicted wounds is troll worthy.
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We both know the only reason WTF "won't fight DBDC" is because of the sham AA working hard to anarchy anyone who is on the cusp enough to be a threat to DBDC.
Yes, bloodpack is preventing those 180k nations from being able to hit those 700k nations.
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You must have missed my previous direct question to you.
Did the DBDC ask for peace?No, I ignored you because this question has been answered on a number of occassions. I have even directly quoted Asa in the past saying they had come forward about white peace and still denied that peace was ever offered. It has always been on the table. WTF has the ability to end the war, but they choose to fight on. This argument is hilarious and futile.
WTF has an out; that is a matter-of-fact. WTF didn't like the out. As a result they have lost members, and their ability to fight in the upper tier. They've even managed to have an alliance affiliation flare up that's soul purpose is to harass them for their terrible decisions. WTF has accused these people of being 'Opportunist' and 'cowards'; how a small 20 man alliance in a NS range where WTF dominates but won't fight makes bloodpack cowards I don't know. WTF is the one who won't fight them. WTF can't pursue DBDC. WTF's ability to carry out war on their illusion of an enemy is non-existent and the best they will ever achieve is a mosquito's status of nuisance. -
You know, there is this saying 'if you have to ask...'
It was a rhetorical question. You so clever.
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I'm still shocked how upset and offended people can get over an alliance defending itself.
WTF isn't defending itself it's being retarded. They don't grow, what's the point of the alliance at this point?
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Just because a 150 man alliance is losing to a 20 man alliance does not mean that the 20 man alliance is winning the game.
If you were a big boy you would have let it go. If DBDC kept you at war and you asked for peace you might have a lot of people supporting you. You're the one keeping DBDC at war, and as a result your combatants grew.
tldr; WTF sucks at politics, propoganda, and fighting. -
This sounds too much like something from NG I call shenanigans.
Non Grata is Serious buisness. Just like Mogar!
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Congrats. Odgaden was solid. So you either cheated the polls or you are super cool.
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Mogar,
I am sorry that Planet Bob and I have not given you the attention you desire. It is quite evident that you are in need of it. Now that there is a lapse in my work load I felt it was my duty to vest some time into your infantile demands for attention. Let us begin.Today I learned that tech deals are considered an act of war if you are aiding nations DBDC does not like, but anyone aiding DBDC is just doing tech deals and it's not an act of war at all!
For reference, the agreement between RIA and DBDC and friends. I'm glad we're at least acknowledging our hypocrisy, it's the first step on the path to redemption.
For refrence:
Here we can find several inconsistencies to your argument. The aid you sent was clearly meant to provoke. It is evident from the aid reason “totally just a tech deal.” The subject matter alone is inconsistent with your previous tech deals.
Another issue is the matter of sending military aid. If you look at the military menu where you manage your nation you will find the option to “purchase military.” Once you have clicked the tab you can conscript troops to join your army by purchasing them in the soldiers menu. So up to this point, these soldiers are military. When you send aid, you have three options: Money, Technology, and Soldiers. Both money and technology can be found under a separate option, not under military. At no point are the soldiers no longer military, so by all intents and purposes, any soldiers being sent would be military aid. This would appear to be a direct violation of the NAP between RIA and DBDC. Regardless of what other aid you sent, military aid is still military aid. Technology trading is technology trading.Here we can see that you have never practiced this sort of so called ‘tech deal’ before. Again, we find this particular deal inconsistent. There are hundreds more tech deals your nation has participated in that contradict your claim.
We can see here through evidence that this was not a tech deal, but military aid with the intention of provoking and antagonizing someone RIA has a non-aggression pact with. By sending soldiers, which by all definitions is military aid, you violated the treaty. Your reason for aid, “totally just a tech deal” reinforces that it was with deliberate and provocative intent.
Feel free to actually change the reality if you'd like, as it stands, following DBDC and their allies logic from the last war, I am simply tech dealing and have not done anything to deserve sanctions. :)
Here you can see that the claims nations sent military aid a long with technology to DBDC is false. I do not know where you found data of this. The history of Planet Bob simply has no record or data of this.
“I send soldiers to protect my monies, it would be silly to send so much money unguarded to another color sphere.”
“Here you admit you sent troops with the intention of being combatants. “
“So, aiding alliances through tech deals is considered an act of war? Just so we're clear on your stance on this subject.”
“You send money unguarded across national borders? Haven't you ever heard of armored cars and convoys?”
“Would you like me to go onto lyricals and link to aid that was considered tech deals on DBDC's side this most recent war that also contained soldiers and were considered tech deals?”
You have made many claims here and provided 0 evidence.
“In reality, the difference is DBDC feels they should be allowed to do things that they themselves said were wrong for other alliances(Polar) to do not even two months ago.”
The circumstances are not the same as it was proven above.
“I send troops regularly, you must guard your monies, since there's plenty of bandits and rogues around these parts lately.”
“I sent a tech deal, exactly as DT probes did to DBDC during the last war, are you acknowledging that those were an act of war?”
Both of these claims have been disproved by the three pieces of evidence above.
I could go on responding to each of your claims but we would find it very one sided. There is no substance to your claims. Your best friends Tywin, and Terminator have not even defended you. You have said multiple times that by NG arguing against and going to war with your allies is a violation of our treaty between NG and RIA, but here you go and send military aid and antagonize our ally. In order to point the finger at someone and call them a hypocrite you must look in the mirror and make sure you yourself are not one.
Throughout the previous war you claimed on numerous occasions that tech dealing was an act of war. Now you claim that not only is tech dealing not an act of war, but sending soldiers is not military aid. This is an example you would probably find in a dictionary on the meaning of hypocrisy.After claiming Non Grata's rebutting and defending Non Grata's allies against RIA’s allies was a violation of the treaty between NG and RIA (There are so many things wrong with that logic but I won’t waste time with this argument) you turn around and send military aid to an alliance at war with our ally with the intention of provoking them. There is a rhythm to your bantering.
How can Mogar of all people point a finger and cry hypocrite when he is the biggest of them all? Despite all the heartbreak caused by Mogar and times Mogar's government has told him to settle down, Mogar sees no problem with taking advantage of their generosity to pursue his own individual interest, not the interest of his alliance.
Mogar, I'm tired of hearing you claim moral high ground when you are in the deepest valley. There is no logic to your constant bickering other than a latent desire for attention.
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Sending millions in warchest cash or directly enhancing military capability (tech) = not war
Sending $60k worth of soldiers = WAR
What I don't understand is why they even bother to argue these points, knowing that concepts like fairness and justice are irrelevant to them. Let's just skip straight to the "do something about it" part next time.
You wish sailor moon. If it's anti-DBDC you're on board. You could care less about which party is right or consistent.
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Continue to ignore that DS and DT Probes, among multiple other AAs were doing the same exact thing two months ago, and your allies argued that such actions were not acts of war.
Mogar the Hypocrite calling someone else a hypocrite.
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I enjoy seeing people argue against what they argued for only a few months ago, it's entertaining to see hypocrisy live in action.
Continue to send soldiers and tell yourself it's the same thing.
Here are some inspirational quotes I've selected just for you Mogar."Fools speak because they have to say something."
"An empty vessel makes the most noise." -
:popcorn: I enjoy watching Mogar make a fool of himself.
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I am a beacon of honor and justice in this world, it makes sense for those who stand for evil to wish to oppress me.
You sent 4k troops. That turns it in to military aid
You intentionally antagonized them. You knew exactly what you were doing so I don't feel sorry for you in the slightest. It upsets me that you time and time again try to stir the pot. The rest of your alliance seems to be doing just fine, but you however can't seem to get it right. I hope you enjoy putting your alliance in danger. Your more dangerous to RIA then any alliance in CN. -
What's this? Mogar being oppressed again?
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