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Well, you keep discussing hypotheticals and we'll keep discussing what actually happened.

No, you tried to create a "gotcha" and failed miserably.

Precisely.

The STA went to war to defend TPF. Job done. As for bragging, we are just pointing out that we dealt a lot more damage than we took to counter the erroneous assumption that we were bailing out because we could not fight any longer. Again, not a difficult concept to understand for all, even the terminally obtuse.

Yes, we go to war to defend our allies. When the job is done we go home provided the terms are reasonable. Not a difficult concept to understand even for the terminally obtuse. But, keep twisting and turning and making up nonsense if that gets you through your day.

I love it when people ask questions they already know the answer to. As has been said a few times, the STA defended TPF. Once TPF agreed to peace, so did the STA. We were more than happy to fight on as long as TPF was at war. A quick check of the war stats will also illuminate you. Assuming illumination is what you seek, of course.

Haha, I thought you'd enjoy that.

Wow, so many signatures. Pleased to see peace had been agreed by all parties. Now back to building up those warchests again. :)

Yeah, and the we can post in it to give him more attention. Great idea!

You are a gift that keeps on giving, Chairmanlol.

Haha. He'd be a good fit.

For all your bluster, this truly is shameful. Shameful but amusing. Keep up the good work.

You're almost there. You can do it!

Now you are being deliberately obtuse. pointless, over the top and convoluted was in reference to the multiple oA chanins used to get IRON onto the STA. Not that we were countered. We were countered by TTK, Echelon and GOD before RIA, Fark and IRON were all oA'd onto us. Hence my descriptions above. Again, I know you are fully aware of this and are being deliberately obtuse because its a requirement of the legendary "coalition warfare". Speaking as someone who cares nothing for "coalition warfare" you just look like an idiot.

We aren't whining, least of all about being countered. I'm sure you know that, well, I hope you do.

And the person saying the same thing in embassies of other alliances is just coincidence then?

I don't see any meaningful difference to be honest. We have no path or position other than defending TPF. Quite how that warrants multiple oA chains to counter our threat to you winning the war remains a mystery. Seeing as it is immense overkill I can only conclude that as the STA did not do as you wished we are now being punished for it. I'd also be interested to hear your views on the NpO line being thrown about about the STA cancelling on you to avoid another beat down leaving you in your darkest hour. Is going overboard in trashing us on the battlefield not enough?

We haven't joined any coalition. I wouldn't even know where to find this coalition to speak to them. The STA defended TPF, simple as that. When TPF leaves the war, so do we. If we'd defended UPN we'd not be part of your coalition either. But, as I said, it helps you all to justify the nonsense you have perpetrated so I can understand why you stick with it.

They have said it in this thread (refer to Fallen Fool's post earlier) and we have been alerted to it being ssaid to others in Embassies elsewhere.

Cool story.

Not your narrative, the NpO's narrative. About "choice" and how we deserted them in their darkest hour because we wanted to avoid being beat down again. All very humourous but untrue just the same.

You said you'd not do something to stop you winning. Which is kind of obvious but it was in response to queries to you about the IRON oA cascade before it happened. I'm not sure how not cascading in multiple alliances onto a periphery alliance loses you the war. Clearly we are that militarily brilliant that we required such overkill to prevent us winning the war. You said if we had done what you told us to do then things would be different. You posted those words in this thread. I'm not asking you to apologise for anything. Merely raising my disappointment in how you have gone about things and the particularly spiteful manner in which you have chose to deal with the STA for the crime of defending an ally. By all means, go on and wn your war which I think was pretty much assured from the beginning.

No, it is reality. It just so happens that reality doesn't suit your narrative so you have to invent a new reality.

I'd love to believe you, Dajobo. But what you posted earlier makes it difficult. Telling us if we'd only done as we were told (by you of coure) none of this would have happened? Really? Sounds pretty malicious to me. And as for the praise of our abilities and knowledge, all nice of course but still does not warrant the overload sent our way. While I understand warfare, coalition warfare and all the other guff I am still struggling to comprehend the thought processes behind what your coalition has done here. Quadruple oAs to put a huge alliance on a tiny one already at war with 3 or 4 other alliances. Good lord. As for choice, sure, we chose to defend TPF but we did not choose to join any coalition against you or anyone. We are not part of any coalition, we are the STA. We honoured our treaty when our ally attacked. If UPN had been countered first we'd probably be on the other side. So, while your words are factually accurate you are overstating and misinterpreting them to make a case that does not exist. We were obliged to assist TPF via our treaty, we did not choose to randomly enter the war to oppose you or anyone else. We defended an ally as TPF defended theirs. So, you can go on all you like about "choice", and I see that is the narrative being spread at the moment, to justify the overkill here but it doesn't make it any more right as far as I'm concerned. And, no, I don't give a toss about my pixels and neither does anyone in the STA. Our history more than shows this to be true. What disappoints us is that an alliance we considered frienldy has gone to such great lengths to ensure we are crushed militarily once again. But, as you said, you'll anything it takes to win the war and I can't criticise that mentality. I just don't see how this wins you the war at all.

I'm unaware of any STA members complaining about the NpO not being good allies during this war. Largely because they are no longer formal allies by way of a treaty. However, you may or may not be aware that the STA and Polaris were quite close for a long time and despite the treaty cancellation were on good terms. At least from the STA's perpective. Our members are a little miffed that our old friend has overseen a largely pointless dogpile on their old friend. I haven't seen any STA members state that Polaris should defend us or even cut us a "good deal" in this war. Our membership merely stated that the response to STA honouring their treaty with TPF seems over the top and pointless with respect to the convoluted means to achieve the dogpile and the dogpile itself. So, as I said, you just made up a load of poo.