TypoNinja's Blog

Generally, diplomacy would mean both sides would give a response towards the issue. What's happened here is that it seems (according to the logs) that VE brushed off Polar's attempt at giving a response, thus the claim of the lack of diplomacy.

It appears all attempts to be diplomatic were meant with a brush off, or Impero saying that's not good enough. There was never an attempt to actually talk in good faith, based off the logs posted to the OW. There's a serious problem with this whole thing mate, when you have one of your friends describing the whole thing as "mystery shopping" to see if Polar would "do you harm if they were given the choice." Entrapment via idiot, not worth a war.

It's never enough diplomacy for the losers.

Quite frankly, the main determining factors of the length of a negotiation is how much you want to kill the other guy, and how much you want to keep people from helping him. There's no such thing as an immutable position within a void: such a position evolves based on these factors. You would give much more leeway to an alliance you see as a friend than one you see as a pest or as a threat. You'd be much more willing to use diplomacy when there's a high likelihood of you facing a losing war than if you have all the power behind you.

And naturally, as negotiation is a tool for advancing national interest, then by definition there will almost never be "enough" diplomacy for anyone when it comes to a war: for a war means that two sides, wanting A and B, met; but failed to find a C that satisfies them both. So, whilst one side might try and get what they want by force because they've judged the application of power to be a more likely way of achieving their goals, the other will still believe that diplomacy was more likely to get them what they want.

Personally, I consider diplomacy at an end when nations start jumping into peace mode. After that, negotiations are just stalling tactics.

If anyone should learn anything from the 6MD War and this one, if you're going to negotiate, don't send an order to go in peace mode. Just stand there, negotiate, not a word to your membership that they're in trouble. Diplomacy could last for days, even weeks if that happens, like with VE-TKTB, and it ends in peace.

If someone asks you if you've done something wrong, and you flee, everyone will assume you did something wrong and start pulling out the guns.