Karolina

Just returned to CN. Looking for a home. Prefer private messages please.

Best of luck to you TPC et al. Karolina

[quote name='Mongol Federation' timestamp='1300581935' post='2670581'] Because it's dead. [img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/awesome.gif[/img] I kept flying the AA to keep the tech raiders way (and as a member I could hardly be accused of ghosting) but i've decided it's time to rejoin the ranks of the aligned. [/quote] Fair do's. All the best

[quote name='Mongol Federation' timestamp='1300573885' post='2670428'] You mean Triton? [img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/emot-v.gif[/img] [/quote] Wait, getting you mixed up with Mongol-Swedes lol. My bad. But yeah, why are you leaving them?

Why are you leaving LSF?

[quote name='Hadrian' timestamp='1300399453' post='2668248'] No, you're naive in thinking that Doom House is going to be lenient to NPO. They really aren't. Yep, we'll see. [/quote] You think this is lenient? Let's see how strong the two sides are after a month of fighting like this.

[quote name='Hadrian' timestamp='1300398829' post='2668225'] I agree that MK doesn't have much reason to lie, but again, I have very very little doubt that it's part of the plan to get NPO out of peace mode. It's important to note that, as you yourself say, you were allies with them for over three years and, well, MK doesn't lie to their allies. The same can't really be said of their foreign policy towards enemies, if you see my meaning. Doom House are only partly justified in attacking NPO like this. Certainly, NPO did a lot of questionable things in their time, but if all DH/PB is going to do is carry that on, then it's not much in the way of a good change. That's correct, I do not believe that those are the terms DH would normally ask for. Unlike you, I actually base my views on what alliances say and do. If I see the majority of DH members foaming at the mouth for NPO to throw away the "vaunted hippy shield", then I am going to include that in my arguments. You're being very naive. [/quote] Wanting solid, genuine evidence before I make a judgement, is naive. Well, I guess we'll see, won't we?

[quote name='Hadrian' timestamp='1300397483' post='2668187'] It's HARDLY an assumption without evidence! Have you not heard some of what comes out of the mouths of Doom House employees and employers? [i]Seriously[/i]... Again, you're making my argument up for me. Look here: "I think it's been made quite clear that DH wants to have a full-on fight" - you. "NPO must come out of peace mode, fight for a month, and then surrender with no terms" - from OP. Now, if Doom House wants a full-on fight, why would they make that up at all? "Surrender with no terms"? What kind of !@#$%^&* is that? The move is nothing more than a deceitful act designed to drag NPO out of peace mode. [/quote] So your reason for not believing them is basically you think that those terms are not heavy enough? The difference between me and you is I actually base my views on alliances on what they do, and not on rhetoric/propaganda/whatever else you wish to call it. As of yet, DH has not done anything to suggest they will not honour peace terms. In fact, their conduct as alliances individually gives quite the opposite impression. No terms given by DH to surrendered alliances thus far have been what I consider excessive (I'm sure you'll disagree), and I fully believe that once those terms are honoured, the alliances will be free to go on their own, as will NPO. As I said in different words earlier, innocent until [i]proven[/i] guilty, not, guilty because I'm a paranoid victim of propaganda.

[quote name='Hadrian' timestamp='1300396140' post='2668146'] Because they are not the white knights of some new era. They are lying through their teeth; they have zero intention of simply obtaining reparations from NPO and then doing nothing. No, ninety-nine point nine nine nine nine nine nine percent of DH wants the complete and utter destruction of Pacifica. And when your enemy wants to destroy you, would you trust them? [/quote] Well firstly, I wouldn't assume something for which I had no evidence. You are. Secondly, I think it's been made quite clear that DH wants to have a full-on fight, which would cause great destruction to both sides. Why, then, would they lie about wanting [i]total[/i] destruction? It doesn't make sense. It's not logical. What they're offering isn't something small. If they had proposed something far smaller, than your suspicion would be justified, but that isn't the case here. It just seems that the myth of DH's evilness has been built up to such a degree now that even the most normal inter-alliance interactions are being portrayed as some huge scheme. Until they actually break their own surrender terms, maybe we should just give them at least one chance, no?

[quote name='Hadrian' timestamp='1300395657' post='2668128'] No. No-one is going to believe that Doom House is simply going to charge NPO reparations and end the war, then just turn away. Of course, if that's not what you mean by reps, then please clarify. [/quote] But why? What reason is there not to trust they'll do as they say? Starting an aggressive war, for whatever reasons, is not grounds to make them untrustworthy, unless they expressly said, at some stage to NPO, we will never declare war on you. You, and others, might think a lot of things about DH but being liars is not something that they've ever showed any evidence of being. EDIT: Terrible grammar.

[quote name='Letum' timestamp='1300389559' post='2667997']Wall of text [/quote] tl;dr please?

[quote name='dave the great' timestamp='1300383684' post='2667846'] hey guys. I am looking to join a british alliance a bit liek teh old British Empire one. Anyone know of any? [/quote] There's no exclusively British alliances currently that I know of.

The CN community isn't very forgiving towards non-English speakers as a rule, so this doesn't surprise me. Still, apologies are good.

[quote name='dogbite' timestamp='1300154429' post='2665136'] He cant go to war without me saying ok. I like a fair fight and to war you now would just be disrespectful. I will not allow it. [/quote] Ummm O.K, well, that's admirable, but wasn't really the point I was making within my post. Not sure why anyone would ever want an unfair fight, anyway. It's always going to be a lose/lose situation for the initiator. If they win, they only won because of overwhelming odds in their favour; if they lose, well...this happens.