Londo Mollari Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 (edited) A little background on this build: First of all, this build is not for everyone. If you are not highly active and very comfortable with temp trading on request, this setup will only work for some of the positions involved. Positions that require willingness to temp trade are colored, positions that don't are left black. If you want to achieve the absolute possible maximum benefits from resource trading with the least hassle possible, then this bi-circle is for you. Only certain specific resource pairs will work in this build, for reasons that will soon become apparent. So why am I calling this a bi-circle? Well, temp trading is pretty common in CN, but it is often limited to benefiting just one or two active members in a given circle. This setup can provide optimal benefit to all 12 members involved in the bi-circle, which is really two circles (Circle A and Circle B) running in parallel. This circle may never come together. If it does come together, it may not be for months. But it does represent a completely optimized trade pattern, and there is no nation who can fit in this which would not benefit from joining it. So if you'd be willing to make the commitment to this when it comes together, then sign up now. Circle A - Bill Payment and Infrastructure Purchase Aluminum, Lumber, Iron, Marble, Rubber, Oil, Lead, Uranium, Coal, Fish, Wheat, Cattle Autos, Asphalt, Construction, Scholars, Steel Bill Payment Core (4 trades) Alum + Rubber Iron + Lumber Marble + Oil + Lead + Uranium (in any 2 trades, i.e. you must have 2 of these) Population/Income Core (2 trades) Cattle + Coal + Fish + Wheat (in any 2 trades, i.e. you must have 2 of these) Circle B - Collections AP Core Completion + 1 pop booster (3 trades) Gems + Silver + Gold + Furs + Wine + (pigs OR sugar) Perm Uranium Trade + 1 pop booster OR Fast Food Completion (1 trade) (pigs OR sugar + uranium OR spices) 5BR-Redundant Core (2 trades) Cattle + Coal + Fish + Wheat (in any 2 trades, i.e. you must have 2 of these) How it works in practice for each member of the bi-circle Bill Payment Core, Circle A ====== collection, each member cancels on other 3 and trades with [AP Core Completion] (3) Members of [AP Core Completion] (3) must fulfill these requests, but members of [bill Payment Core] (4) do not have to make them. Population/Income Core, Circle A ====== collection, each member cancels on [bill Payment Core] (4) and trades with [AP Core Completion] (3) + [Perm Uranium Trade + 1 pop booster OR Fast Food Completion] (1) Requests do not have to be made, but must be fulfilled if they are made. AP Core Completion + 1 pop booster, Circle B ===== bills, infra - each member cancels on Circle B members as necessary, and acquires trades from [bill Payment Core] as necessary. Requests do not have to be made, but must be fulfilled if they are made. Perm Uranium Trade + 1 pop booster OR Fast Food Completion, Circle B ==== this can be either a pigs+spices or sugar+spices trade OR a pigs+uranium or sugar+uranium trade. It's a question of whether the members of Circle B want to have perm uranium or prefer to get fast food to collect on. ===== bills, infra - each member cancels on Circle B members as necessary, and acquires trades from [bill Payment Core] as necessary. Requests do not have to be made, but must be fulfilled if they are made. 5BR-Redundant Core, Circle B ===== bills, infra - each member cancels on Circle B members as necessary, and acquires trades from [bill Payment Core] as necessary. Requests do not have to be made, but must be fulfilled if they are made. ====================================================================== The [fish, wheat, cattle, coal] trades of both circles never have to temp anyone else, but have the option to temp for collections if in Circle A or bills/infra if in Circle B. They may however have to endure temporarily losing trades from time to time as others temp. Everyone else will have to temp other bi-circle members if requested, Circle A members will have to temp Circle B members when Circle B members want the Circle A trades to pay bills or buy infra, and Circle B members will have to temp Circle A members when Circle A members want the Circle B trades to collect. If you have the resources required to get into the circle, and you are willing to fulfill the activity requirements for your position and be considerate to the other members of the bi-circle by timing your sleds to minimize temping while maximizing growth (you should at a minimum check your nation 2+ times throughout the day, every day) then I encourage you to join this bi-circle. Circle A Members Aluminum + Rubber - Londo Mollari of The Redoubt of Mind (Athens) Iron + Lumber - Marble + Oil - Bluto of Delta House (Zero Hour) Lead + Uranium - Cattle + Coal - Fish + Wheat - Kazeki of Halfaland (Athens) Circle B Members Silver + Wine - Nutkase of Aussiralia (The Grämlins) Gold + Sugar - Kevo the Great of Samotopia (Mushroom Kingdom) Gems + Furs - Nme28 of Nme28 (New Pacific Order) Pigs + Uranium - Cattle + Coal - James I of Marshdonia (Mushroom Kingdom) Fish + Wheat - Edited November 23, 2009 by Londo Mollari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaghul Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 (edited) I'm down with iron/lumber, if we can get the people for this. Edited November 11, 2009 by Azaghul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londo Mollari Posted November 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 I'm down with iron/lumber, if we can get the people for this. YES WE CAN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaghul Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 I made a diagram on how this works, and how a rotation could work: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tk5...amp;output=html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazeki Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 /me fish+wheat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londo Mollari Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Added nutkase to the circle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 (edited) Yo- put me down for Gems + Furs This must be the only way to profit from such a rubbish resource combo... Scrap that- I suspect Merlin will kill me if I sign up... Edited November 13, 2009 by jamesdanaher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaghul Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Yo- put me down for Gems + FursThis must be the only way to profit from such a rubbish resource combo... Scrap that- I suspect Merlin will kill me if I sign up... Ignore Merlin's tyranny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londo Mollari Posted November 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Yo- put me down for Gems + FursThis must be the only way to profit from such a rubbish resource combo... Scrap that- I suspect Merlin will kill me if I sign up... No BANKSY... D: come play in the pool... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nme28 Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 gems and furs xP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwaker1 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 gems and furs will change color Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ada069 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 I have Uranium and Coal for Circle A if that is ok.... http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=133514 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londo Mollari Posted November 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 (edited) I have Uranium and Coal for Circle A if that is ok....http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=133514 Coal and Uranium doesn't work, because it messes up the temping scheme. The exact resource pairs listed are the ones needed. EDIT: I have contacted both gems/furs nations to see which would work better in this arrangement. Edited November 18, 2009 by Londo Mollari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheezy Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londo Mollari Posted November 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Oh look, a picture of G'kar. Nme28 has the gems/furs spot in the circle if he's willing to switch to aqua for this and do the whole temping thing... just waiting to hear back from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londo Mollari Posted November 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Nme28 added to the circle. Several spots still left! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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