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Halsa.... I'm having a hard time remembering who you even are.
well good luck with that, I'm sure your 38 members and 600k NS is going to scare anybody who was thinking of war out of it.
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Karma Again maybe, but not Karma 2.0
How about the Ridiculous War?
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best of luck TPF, your great people, and I can only hope that those who have acted without logic, intelligence or dignity receives what they deserve at some point down the road.
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lolVanHoo
when I thought one couldn't be any more fail, you prove me wrong.
best of luck to TPF.
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Speak for yourself, motherlover.
I'm surprised that you would admit to that.
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I could find no Jack Diorno registered on the old NAAC forums, so I would say... no.
Unless he went under some other nickname, but I can't imagine what would be so bad one would change to Jack Diorno.
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Stop hating on NAAC, we are just trying to make a living in this hard world
If you knew ANYTHING about the NAAC, you would know that asshattery was frowned upon.
When I think of you, I develop a pretty large frown.
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Quite frankly Jack, you deserve to get rolled.
This is absolutely disgusting, and I really don't know how its possible for a single person to respect you. (Oh wait, they don't.)
why don't you give it up and stop tainting the image of something great with your pathetic attention grabbing?
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forever blue.
Sure, the NAAC could follow in the footsteps of other alliances and reform, and would easily be better than 90% of other alliances out there, but could never rival the greatness that the NAAC had and deserves.
Besides, I wouldn't really call NAAC dead... I look around and see alot of ex-NAAC who are keeping the spirit alive.
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congratulations to all involved.
Good government, except for that memoryproblems fellow, he's dangerous
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Congrats KJ and RDD, bright days await you, no doubt.
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So, you missed the part where Starcraftmaster says he has no evidence to support the only real accusation he has made here? So what of the rest was a "poor show" from NSO?
While Starcraftmazter's argument has been inconsistent at points, I think that the logs produced in the opening post we're enough for me to call it a poor show. There is a line between having some fun and being an ***hat, and at times it seems as if NSO (among others) doesn't seem to have any idea where that line is.
I kinda see the point though, but certain parts of it simply appear to me as if a joke went too far into a malicious personal attack by members likely of NSO, although that is far different then attacks by NSO itself.
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Did you read any of this thread or just post mindless and utter crap.
I read the opening post, and that was precisely what my comment was directed at.
I attempt to refrain from the latter of your points, call it trying not to follow in your footsteps.
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poor show from NSO
then again, I can't think of anything but a poor show from them.
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Can't say that I know alot about or care for the new MA government, but that Rudolph guy, you need to watch out for him.
Well actually, just kidding, he's pretty special.
congrats on the new gov and the anniversary.
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Information doesn't have to be witty to be true. I honestly have no idea who you are. Except you could be mad I called Echelon a puppet alliance.
The situation I'm referring to is....
Echelon being the horse and 1V being the carrot. NPO dangled it on a stick in front of you and watched you squirm and do whatever they asked for you to get the carrot. You got the carrot, and look where it got you.
It must be the cool thing to do now to mention something that happened a long time ago to defend criticism of your current actions.
I hadn't even picked up your calling Echelon a puppet. I can't say it really hurts or anything though.
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Nah, the only joke around here is your alliance you claim affiliation with.
Oh the hypocrisy.
Thats a funny one though, albeit so unoriginal and unwitty.
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One would have imagined that TimLee would tire of being a joke.
Apparantly not.
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Caffine, when you write things like these, I want to kill myself.
Lets sum up where the current situation is... NpO (and others) dislike Echelon. Fine, things like this aren't going to change it. I (and the rest of Echelon I believe) wants nothing but the best for Polaris, we've got nothing for or against them, One thing is certain, we can't change what transpired so long ago, so lets just shut the $%!^ up about it.
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Nation: Get back to pre-karma war levels after the whole ZI deal, get a WRC, amass gigantic warchest
Alliance: Rethink FA picture, solidfy within, get to 150 members, 5 mil NS.
Bloc: n/a
Political Scene: WAR!!!
Game Changes: If its not broke, why does it need changed? Hopefully few game changes.
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If you refuse the idea that Echelon can or should own up to its past mistakes, and Echelon does indeed refuse to acknowledge its mistakes, then all change is precluded. Democratic alliances don't get a magic global memory reset every month when they have elections, Echelon doesn't get a mystical pass because all your leaders got going when the going got rough (the same way they "led" Echelon) and have been replaced.
Your stance is preposterous.
Did you not see my bit about Echelon is not perfect and has done bad things in the past? Echelon has made its fair of mistakes, I've acknowledged that before, in this thread even. Whats important to realize is that hind-sight is 20/20, and to be honest if I was in the position of those who made the decisions in those mistakes, I don't know if I would have done any different. (I like to think I would have, but until your there, you don't know.)
I was only joking, but if you really do want to get into a little squabble over it, be my guest.You'd be surprised at how often that joke comes up
Also, wow this thing got off-track fast. Sorry
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Of course Echelon canceled on Polaris because they were redefining treaties to match up with the level of their friendships and their ideals. lol1.gif
You can say that you weren't part of Echelon gov at the cancelation time or that you weren't in Echelon, but do not try to spin the reason of the cancelation please.
People will believe what they want to believe. Frankly I don't care because it was a long time ago and bickering about it isn't going to change anything. Like I said, theres no way for you or I to know, since we weren't there or in a position to make the decision. I guess you'll just have to believe what you want, its not like its going to change anything anyway.
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I do not profess to know the history behind Echelon of that period, as that was considerably before I joined. I make no efforts to claim that I have said knowledge. Neither you or I can really tell the complete motivation behind that treaty cancellation, it could be exclusively for political positioning, or it could be something else such as redefining treaties to match up with the level of their friendships and their ideals. The only people who can really tell us are the ones who made that decision.
Grub, I have a lot of respect for you, I really do. I think in many ways you completely mis-understood what I was trying to say. In no way am I trying to say that Echelon has been an angel (we're far from it), and in no way am I trying to solely blame the disbandment of the NAAC on NpO. Just as Echelon is far from perfect, NpO has items in its history which are far from just. There is a major difference between the past and the present. Alliances change over time, as Polaris has, and as I like to think Echelon has. To quote Bob Dylan, "The Times, They are a changing". Just as the polaris of today is far different then the one that you and I fought against during our time in the NAAC, the Echelon of today is far different then the one that canceled that treaty. Very few alliances stand the test of any length of time without accumulating a few blemishes on their record.
To be honest, I could not care any less what anybody thinks of Echelon. I've played this game for almost 3 and a half years, and I've had my fair share of alliances. In Echelon I've found a place where I enjoy playing the game, a place where I can be myself. It doesn't bother me to hear what you guys say of Echelon of the past, I know exactly what Echelon is today, and to be honest, there is absolutely no other place that I would rather be.
Are you trying to blame Grub for what happened to NAAC? Pathetic.Vilien, I really would suggest that you read next time, nowhere did I say or even infer anything close to that. To the contrary, I know Grub did his best at the NAAC, and I have alot of respect for him.
Well his name is memoryproblemsYou know, 3 and a half years ago that was funny, anymore it just shows your lack of resourcefulness
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Whew! How wrong can a person be?
I'm sure you define that on a daily basis.
I'll always agree with ES in this matter, nobody can force other alliance to disband. So nothing to argue here.And at least for me is easier forgive and forget your enemies past behaviors than your friends treasons. I do not forgive and not forget what Echelon did in the past, but doesn't mean that I hate or would like to roll you, I just doesn't wanna any kind of relation with you guys, if you expected something better than apathy coming from Polaris I have to say that you are naive or crazy.
Sure, you can't do it for them, but Polaris did just about everything next to forcing them. Whether you can force somebody to disband or not is irrelevant, just as you view Echelon's treaty cancellation against you as some sort of horrible, I certainly am not filled with love for Polaris over the matter. Your argument that Echelon is no better now than then because we have so many of the same members (but not government members) is a hard argument to sell with that sort of thing on your record. I've gotten over the NAAC thing, things change, but there are many who can't seem to forgive and forget.
As for relations, I can't say that Echelon really wants relation with you guys either. We don't mind you, but I don't see alot of things that we really like for that matter either. I guess you can call it mutual indifference.
We are looking at YOU O.O
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congratulations on completely missing the point of shaneprice's post and focusing on a completely irrelavant mistake in presentation.
Did you take a course somewhere about how to read something and not get anything out of it? Because I must say, your really good at it.
My hands are clapping in applause.