Charles the Tyrant
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And what did pretty much every AA in the game tell us we had to do during Karma? They told us we had to change, and as has been mentioned earlier pretty much every one of our allies didn't want to defend us from that wave of hatred at the time. It took strong coersion from the Karma coalition to force most of our allies to defend us at the time, and even with TPF at the time it took the threat of mhawk leaving TPF to get them to step into the fray,
So we've changed over time, it doesn't mean everyone has to like what we've become. We are the ebil NPO after all. I have always highly respected TPF, and I always will, I don't like the fact that we're facing each other now on the battlefield, and I think we could've definitely handled the CB a lot better than we did, but it doesn't change the fact that we're fighting it out now regardless.
How does any of that have any relevance to what I posted? :psyduck:
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Cheers.
Means I can focus on the war in PW more :P
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I remember the DH preempt as being that time NPO's leadership were informed of the specific date and time of the attack and instead did nothing about it whatsoever other than let it happen in order to gain sympathy points.For some reason I remember DH preempting us because our allies wouldn't call us into their war for assistance to start the DH/NPO War, but that's just me pulling an example of precedent out of the cobwebs in the back of my head.
I got yelled at by the poodle iirc for changing my improvement slots after receiving and passing along credible Intel which was proven to be accurate. Instead, the upper tier nations were sent into PM and everyone else was intentionally left defenceless and unprepared.
True fact although I seriously doubt it is a secret. Old news after all. -
That's not what I said. What I said was that those logs dropped in another context wouldn't have spurred on the resentment they did.
And you're right, I'm not going to query you. I already saw how Petro was treated when he spoke to yall privately.Couldn't have been any worse than the manner in which Seppuku treated MI6 when MI6 made the effort to resolve Petro's failed spy op.
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Politically active alliances.
And @Charles - Rey has the PoW AA because he probably thought at some point it would be fun to have that owner power.
I doubt he is doing it for (at the request of) oculus.You were saying? :P
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You keep saying that, but I don't think you have proof; hell, if hartfw gave you the full logs of our conversation, you wouldn't have any proof.
Oh rey
You yourself yesterday stated that a deal had been reached, that you wouldn't be attacked and in return you would be allowed to form the Occulus Pow AA because it was deemed amusing to have you in charge of an AA with MI6 nations who have surrendered.
Now if you were exaggerating or flat out lying then I can surely understand however...that still does not explain how you of all people got off from an NPO target list and now suddenly have formed the POW AA.
So go on, indulge me, tell me a good story.
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Well, no. If all the people crying foul had the testicular fortitude to do anything about it, they'd have quite a sizable coalition to call upon.
Says the guy who formed the Occulus PoW AA as a means to get himself off NPO's target list after apparently showing fortitude a month or so back.
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Something really wrong when a a dragon of all creatures can't find a helpless nation to burn. :P
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I'll just point out that due to yall's oh so clever goofy forum name scheme, I had no idea who any of yall were.
It's a bit disingenuous to suggest yall wanted to discuss the finer points of the philosophy of it when yall still have folks talking crap and asking us to relay it to Roquentin. I'm not sure how we're supposed to take that as anything other than passive aggressive.Being one of these persons talking crap and asking you to relay it to Roq, I can assure you that you should not have taken it as being passive aggressive. You can take it however as me being amused at how pathetic you are.
Also, obligatory Umbrella sucks. Feel free to activate your intelligence clause and relay that too.
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Going to agree with Doch on this one. Granting ODN status as a middle man for this conflict is stretching it. Pretty clear (to me anyway) that ODN have no real influence when it comes to this war and aren't really in a position to sway the tides of it.
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And to think you have actually spent time in the NPO, more than once, and think this is applicable to us. :psyduck:
Umm?
http://www.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=793422
http://www.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=792743
http://www.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=792864
http://www.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=792779
http://www.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=792583
Note that these were offensive wars declared by NPO nations in defence of Umbrella. So yeah, looks pretty applicable. Of course, you will respond that the damage can be fixed all too easily via aid and I totally agree. Please do send aid to these nations. I am sure the aid will be most appreciated.
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Clearly we should aspire to be more like Seppuku.
Only problem is that my spine prevents me from stooping that low.
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Out of curiosity, is Oculus considered a single alliance or is each AA still an independent, sovereign entity? In the case of the later, would it be correct to say this is a DoW by NG, IRON, DT, etc against STA?
The point probably has no military relevance in this case but it's good to know for future precedent's sake.
The precedent was already set a few years ago.
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TPF are lucky to have such honourable allies.
Good luck
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You are correct... after they allied MI6. They chose their path then. That was when they broke with us, not the treaty cancellation which is not what I was referring to literally.
Nope, just Charles wasn't clear by my definition of "broke with us".
Forgive me Mael but if we are going to follow your definition NPO were the ones who broke with TPF. I refer of course to NPO signing with Umbrella who were in outright hostilities with TPF.
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I really do love the format of these stats. The other one was nice and all but nothing can compare to ri5 stats imo.
Edit: Also just noticed, Seppuku appear to be as gifted in attacking as they are at spying.
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Seriously, we have no obligations to you. You chose to break with us. We have other obligations now.
I had a great appreciation for the TPF of 8 years ago.. that stood by its TREATIES, and upheld its OBLIGATIONS.. just like we are now. You burnt for us, now you can burn for MI6.
My memory might be playing a trick on me but didn't NPO cancel the treaty with TPF?
Yes, that's right. I am sure of it now. Memory restored.
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Hey, it's yall's talking point. I for one totally agree it would have been retarded for us to expect MI6's allies not to defend them.
Well..now that you mention it.
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In all fairness, Rey's been pretty relevant lately. Whether people will admit it or not.
Please, do tell.
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It's nice that people can see the ridiculous in their own positions.
But...sengoku actually did it...
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If that MI6 keeping TPF out thing was true, MI6 should have posted it publically for all of us to see. It'd've been a fantastic talking point to have used if this had gone forward nevertheless.
It is true.
Why should they have had to post it publicly? You lot are the ones taking the offensive action, do you think you can attack whoever you want and that the onus lies upon the victim to inform you if your reasons for attacking are invalid?
Edit: Actually quite amusing now that I think on it considering this topic.
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Well, I can see why thats not hostile by mi6 standards...
'Sure we approached Sengoku, told them that being allied to Umbrella was bad and went on to imply that Umbrella would roll them, but frankly we were outraged that they then shared this information with Umbrella.'
Being allied to Umbrella is bad.
Activate intelligence clause and relay what I just said please.
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I dunno, "pre-empt in alliance warfare" vs "aid thievery" seems like a close call.
Can't pre-empt an alliance which was informed to stay out of a war and who was intending on staying out.
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I dont buy that... i am more than sure the all the other AAs of Oculus are more than capable of going to war on thier own without NPO.
Well, we know for a fact Sengoku isn't capable of going to war on their own.
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