Daenerys Targaryen

According to Fatal, him and Cowboy were on IRC together waiting for your declaration against OP, when it didn't happen, he assumed it was postponed. Like i said, either Cowboy was telling tales to Fatal or you are telling tails here. It seems strange that the leaders of D1 and your good friends at the time would be wasting their time waiting to see a DoW. When i started i didn't see you around. That was an interesting war and it was fun to watch. As soon as D1 entered the fold, multiple peace offers were sent from Avenger nations to the others you were still at war with like RE who approved those offers even though D1 entered on their behalf to even the odds. Once these war fronts were closed, you were able to direct the majority of your firepower towards D1 because you had enough opened offensive slots from the earlier peace offers, totally smashing them with the help of FF making it a massive hill climb for D1 when the others had tucked tail and ran. The WD's gave a decent effort but nukes had never been used against you by TPC, Misfits or RE so you hadn't really taken any damage before D1 and WD's entered and by that time you had nukes too and you were able to concentrate resources on them 1 at a time because WD's took too long getting their MP's. It was a bit of a disaster on their part and worked out well for Avengers so you got lucky there. To be fair, i don't think this round could have gone any better for you considering what could have happened so far you really have little to complain about.

The fact you act as if I'm the only person in the history of TE to complain about the actions of another alliance is a joke. Your problem is you only complain at people (primarily myself, i have never see you oppose anyone else) who complain at the wrongful actions of other alliances. This is why I've always considered you a brown noser and an opportunist to try to get something on me. You don't consider any underdog attacks wrongful but 9 times out of 10 they're not actually being committed against you so why would you care anyway and there have been some foul moves and i never saw you speak up against it There is nothing hurtful in letting people speak their minds about what they consider in-game crimes against themselves or others. If this freedom of speech bothers you, you should consider avoiding these forums because that is what these forums are also for, to express one's thoughts in relation to TE game-play. In your world it sounds like you can complain but don't complain too much, you're a bigger joke than i thought. In SE, complaining at the actions of other alliances or people is a big part of the political game. Whats even more ludicrous about your replies is I'm only calling out the immoral actions of other people or alliances. You can try to shoot down the messenger all you want but I'll keep doing what i do and i suppose you're be tailing me to try and re-inflate your ego by attacking me with desperation and hypocrisy. I didn't say anything about apples and oranges, your just adding your typical BS to enforce your point. I know the games are almost mechanically identical, its the politics that makes it very different, primarily the fact alliances are tied together with official treaties in SE while there are no official treaties in TE. I've been invited to join multiple alliances but i guess you know more than me about all that or you think you do. There are plenty of threads where I didn't lay a complaint, and don't pretend you haven't derailed any threads, probably more than me but keep trying, your arguments are getting more and more desperate. I don't want people to rally to my side because I'm not leading anything, i want people to rally against those who use unfair tactics against others as i always have and they will because it'll be in their interest too. You've hit OP every round and your trying to say you weren't going to hit OP this round? You've hit them twice already. So you wrote the all sacred book of having a war chest? This stuff has been common knowledge long before you showed up. You're not playing above the board, your first war was BS, you picked them all out 1 by 1 which is BS and you know it. They would have given you a decent fight had you attacked them all together but you didn't want a decent fight, you wanted to roll them 1 by 1. .

He agreed to a 1v1 against me but as you wish and this game isn't about being the better fighter, its about being the better builder. Any noob can send attacks. Maybe but I have feeling its going to be TPC, OP, WD's, D1, Misfits vs Avengers and friends for some time. You're just bringing all the competent vet alliances closer and closer.

Well one thing is for sure and that is that he won't be getting 2 months without war to build his nation next round. Lets see what he can do in 2 weeks because that's about all hes getting.

Do you really think I'm worried about a noob like you. You're just a fly that i will squash as soon as you get in my path.

I know you have no problem with how the Avengers have been maneuvering and quite frankly no one cares what you think, but many people do care what the Avengers have been doing and some have beenvocal about it on these forums. This isn't SE so don't use that bs to justify your point. Just because you've never spoken out against the underhanded tactics committed against NDO, everyone knows Road Rash does and without someone like that, others will continue to do it against you because you don't speak out against it. Are you sure this is your thread? You people try too hard but I'll happily expose your stupidity. I'm guessing this certain somebody is Fatal? You did roll him when his alliance hit Avengers/FF but i said you could ZI him and he'll still bounce back. 0- 4k infra would cost him about 30 mill, i think he had 50 mil post war. No easy task getting a nation down to 0 infra from 4k and i believe his opponents managed to take around 2500 infra/+400 tech. The most damage was already done, buying from 0-1500 infra which was his post war infra level would cost about 5 mill. As for him teaching me, well I'm glad its no surprise because he does. I gave him a head start, everything is all him now and hes still learning and making mistakes but this is what makes you better. Lucky for me i get to learn from his mistakes. ^_^

More like you were using Fatal as your example because he was the only nation able to bounce back, everyone else wasn't as lucky. Changing resources isn't a good idea. You'd have to infra jump with the maximum infra reductors, change resources to the maximum income bonuses and then you'd have to hold those resources for the next 7 days, missing out on all the infra upkeep reducers and soldier efficiency trades. Didn't Stevie teach you this? You need 4 temp traders to be able to do it effectively. Donations are still an advantage so don't pretend they're not because we've had had nations take flags without donating. The fact they avoid war or make constant down declares taking minimal damages is the primary reason why they've won them. The difference is nations who donate/temp like Fatal will fight hard every war no matter the cost, even when the odds are against him, nations who don't donate but temp like the TPC flag runner avoided war in his alliances first war so he could catch up to nations like Fatal. It looks like he got 35 days before he first saw action and hes an elite builder using temps, its no surprise he isn't where he is. I'll say it for the 15th time now but i don't have any problem with how Avengers are building their nations, its the tactics you've used and I'm clear and precise about my reasons. You've all seen them, it aren't no secret so quit trying to turn it into me opposing Avengers for being better builders. So you're saying by rolling everyone and sometimes using underhanded tactics to do it, you're making them better players. Is that what all the Avengers tell themselves every-night on IRC? Many will improve with or without Avengers but some are as likely to quit if you're going to continue to use underhanded tactics and make massive up declares or jump alliances already at war. Every round you've been targeting the same group of alliances very early before they can effectively fight and obtain the resources to bounce back without needing 2-3 weeks peace time to recovery. The game has been decreasing in membership long before i started playing and that trend hasn't changed. I've seen people quit because of all the underhanded tactics used against them in-game. They didn't quit because someone said something they didn't like on the owf but do pretend its all my fault for the decline. Is that seriously the best you can do? Its getting really old now and constantly being used against me by noobs like you. Your tactics are why people will quit, not because I'm calling them out.

Besides Avenger nations, Fata1ity is probably the only nation you can use to make your point because he donated and temp traded. Not everyone had +50 mill to war/build with that early. I think he had around 120 mill when they hit you. No, actually i think he had that for his last war, maybe around 70 mill when he hit Avengers.

It looks like the full cheer squad is here. Give us a A! Give us a V! Give us a E! :facepalm:

What heart?

You rolled all of TPC's elites except for their flag runner which is the primary reason why he was able to jump ahead, even ahead of all those who donated. TPC as an alliance are more stronger than any single nation could ever be so by crippling TPC, you effectively stalled any chance they may have had for more flags and deterring them as an aggressive threat. You could have hit alliances with higher NS and ANS but you chose TPC first for strategic reasons. If your rich nations had spent their cash then they'd have handed over the individual flags. Probably my 2nd most proudest moment. ^_^

Its cheesy.

The first time wasn't an experiment, it was because they feared they might get hit by Citadel (even when this alliance is one of the most powerful in the game, they still run away from a real fight) and then others would come in before they could rebuild in time to fully restock nuke/navie to get another chance at ANS.

I have explained the issues I do have with them and none of those were because they can build effectively. They have no honor so why should anyone give them the benefit. They will continue to make underhanded strategic tactics early in the round because they have too if they want to continue to get the high casualties, war chest/infra levels and flags they've been getting. They've been doing it since they were founded, and they do it because they're quick out of the blocks by using donations/temps and they take full advantage of this while everyone else are still trying to get their chest levels in place, let alone military wonders so they hit them when they're not militarily prepared for war. They will continue to try to hit the other major alliances early which are WD's, TPC and OP. The rest are easy pickings and are no concern to them unless they harbor flag runners or get bigger than them. They're not looking for soft wars like Citadel, they will take out the biggest threats first which is a legitimate tactic and one i have no issues with, its the underdog tactics they use to accomplish this is where i have issues.

I wasn't talking about what you noobs do outside the game. These forums are for TE related content.

I know everything you noobs do before you do it.

You asked them for help, they never offered it and i was told this by their leader at the time who is a very good friend of mine. You asked for all of D1 to help but you only got 5 nations so you wouldn't spit the dummy and turn D1 into your enemies because that's the type of person you are if people you assume you control decline your request. I've heard all about your drama fits you do when you don't get your way. Avengers had their own goals, D1 had their own goals which was to hit WD's and they did when those 5 nations came back and rebuilt, my interest was helping both alliances. One at war which was Avengers and the other with experience/advice. You keep telling your self i had my own interest though when i not only warred for Avengers but made the irc update blitzes and war coordination. Did you expect me to show up during peace time too, i do have a life outside CN you know. You're just so upset because i was the only person that you invited into the Avengers that ended up leaving. You blame me for your friend losing the most infra flag, that was one of my proudest moments in TE, that is why i play. ^_^ Anyway, get over yourself already about stuff that happened 2 rounds ago.

I know no one likes me, and i don't care. :P There is only one person i don't want not liking me and he doesn't even play. ^_^ And i think you overestimate the abilities of Citadel. They likely made this DoW to avoid getting hit by the Avengers but it does mean no one can effectively challenge the Avengers now except for a couple of nations in regards to flags.

Tell your friend to go and start his own thread about this accident he had. I've had friends that have been in serious accidents too but they didn't use it on the internet to try and paint a negative picture of people they hate. I'll say it again just to be clear, its an excuse to me and if that makes me a bad person in your world then so be it. He sounds just as ignorant as he did before this accident so nothing has changed. If there are people i can't stand, its these types that will literally use anything as a weapon.

I don't want to get into all that personal drama because this isn't the right thread for it so I'm trying not to escalate it even though you 2 are actively trying to escalate it and further derail the thread. Millions of people experience misfortunes every day but millions don't use it as a weapon against their enemies on the internet. Just the biggest douches do.

Hitting alliances already at war, massive down declares on their biggest threats, just to name a couple but keep cheerleading. Their leader is known to only play for flags who has in the past resorted to any and all tactics to win flags. In the past he has used people and their alliances (D1) to met his goals, when he was getting rolled he asked others to come to his rescue (The Misfits), he even got TPC rolled once and he calls me selfish. The biggest joke of a leader in the game and many vets of the game know this already except you because you've always stood behind those who stand against me no matter their crimes but keep taking shots at the messenger, it might work one of these days but i wouldn't hold my breath. Why do you care so much when i played? I regret i even joined your alliance so what makes you think i care that i didn't integrate myself. I've always helped the new players/rookies improve in this game anyway and i was doing the same that round too with D1 which i was actively pursuing to help our cause, you do realize i talked Fatal into helping you against OP because he wasn't going to before that but keep calling me selfish and pretend your not.

Have you finished using the sympathy card yet? You should tell people that are your friends your problems.

Just make sure there are no excuses next time.

Why are you telling me? Are we friends or something? Since I've been playing, you've been hostile towards me so don't expect me to lend you my shoulder so you can cry on. I treat people how they treat me.

I just find it it suspicious you go inactive the day i hit your nation which is why i consider it an excuse and those are the same rules i just stated so of course I'm already in favor of them.