Heya

[quote name='Juggernaut123' timestamp='1299730983' post='2658254'] Obviously overconfident haha, I feel bad for your alliance now. Hypocritical much? [/quote] Lol your sooo full of yourself

[quote name='Stelios' timestamp='1299705092' post='2657926'] Yea when you declare war on someone, you take into consideration how well of fighters they are.. OP. show me whos better at fighting? [/quote] I'm sure they'd love too and us too That's look at how much NS we've all lost: Roman Empire: -60,559 Synergy: -45,400 Pork Shrimp: -16404 Ordo Paradoxia: -38,344 So you guys have lost almost twice the amount of NS we have and you had a 8:1 nuke ratio on us at the start of the war. You guys can make excuses and talk all you want, but stats don't lie. Trust me, you guys suck

alliance seniority means nothing. All of us with little seniority have changed AA's to get out of nuclear anarachy/collect taxes. And the very few of us that weren't here just prior to the war were either from deja vu or whatever or were former PC. For example I fought with PC in Karma. Either way we came back is because we all have good friends and memories here.

[quote name='Tautology' timestamp='1299628306' post='2657208'] Yeah, I knew what you meant but I couldn't resist it. The point is that what makes PC what it is is more than just its casualty stats. [/quote] Lol and what do you think makes up PC?

[quote name='lazaraus45' timestamp='1299628332' post='2657209'] if you're looking for the big picture then you're in the wrong thread, this is just a bunch of PC members going "stop with that all that useless pride RoK, (insert casualty stats in reply to completely unrelated quote) [/quote] Naw no really. There's a bunch of girls above us from NATO? arguing.

[quote name='lazaraus45' timestamp='1299628332' post='2657209'] if you're looking for the big picture then you're in the wrong thread, this is just a bunch of PC members going "stop with that all that useless pride RoK, (insert casualty stats in reply to completely unrelated quote) [/quote] Pride is one of the 7 deadly sins

[quote name='lazaraus45' timestamp='1299628061' post='2657204'] that should be you're not your [/quote] big picture > details bro

[quote name='Tautology' timestamp='1299627660' post='2657193'] That's where we're different. We'd never trade our friends and we'd willingly give up our infra for friends. [/quote] And this is coming from the person sitting in hippie mode at a pretty 4999.99k infra?

[quote name='Tautology' timestamp='1299627660' post='2657193'] That's where we're different. We'd never trade our friends and we'd willingly give up our infra for friends. btw, it doesn't really matter in the big scheme of things but it's "they're great" not "there". [/quote] Lol you know excatly what I mean't. And any ally of PC knows what I'm refering to. Your full of !@#$ Taut, taking advantage of my typos!

[quote name='Tautology' timestamp='1299626723' post='2657160'] Great statistics but that's not what Laz was talking about, but I think you already know that. [/quote] Yeah I know there great. And my point is is that we'd trade infra for friends anyday. While RoK trades infra to please one friend while pissing off a bunch of others. Oh and btw, I couldn't find your "No surrender clause" in your charter either

[quote name='lazaraus45' timestamp='1299605657' post='2656801'] On the note of Rok: why would we surrender? sure we're taking damage, it's war.... This is Ragnaroks culture, it's who we are, i wouldn't expect poison clan to understand what i'm talking about, i don't expect a sense of culture from the member of a bloc that couldn't even remember which flag is PC's [/quote] Lol is that joke? Twisted: 5,412,651 Attacking + 6,225,986 Defending = 11,638,637 Casualties zoom: 4,774,761 Attacking + 5,783,122 Defending = 10,557,883 Casualties fant0m (former PC) : 4,534,329 Attacking + 6,464,154 Defending = 10,998,483 Casualties velcity: 4,705,575 Attacking + 5,488,400 Defending = 10,193,975 Casualties that's 3 of us above 10 mil casulaties (not including fant0m) and after an extensive search I couldn't find one Rokker above 5mil casulaties nevermind 10mil! If I were to make a list of Poison Clan members above 5 mil casualties there would be 10 of us.

[quote name='Confusion' timestamp='1299624867' post='2657111'] You want to put your money where your mouth is? Confusion. [/quote] You must really think your all that putting your name at the end of every post.

I knew this had to be the work of someone from NPO the second I saw we got declared on again without even having the opporunity to peace out because nobody else would be soooooooooooooo cowardly. Turns out I was right Guess what RE (NPO), YOU'VE HAD THE ADVANTAGE BEFORE. And you've been destroyed because we all know your terrible fighters and even if it takes all round we will do it again.

[quote name='welshgazza1992' timestamp='1299545303' post='2655980'] Then we'll amalgamate a few middle tiers nations and stop you. [img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/awesome.gif[/img] [/quote] Haha yeah uh goodluck with that

[quote name='In Spades' timestamp='1299481052' post='2655190'] Yes, continue being butthurt over our refusal to surrender. That'll make us surrender faster. [img]http://img.walgreens.com/dbimagecache/38004073900_450x450_a.jpg[/img] for those heavy flow days [/quote] Haha I like that post. We weren't complaining about you guys not surrendering, atleast I wasn't. believe it or not spades but most of your mates don't have a warchest unlike you. In fact I'm looking at your entire AA's alliance spy report spreadsheet right now. So although you may be down for a dozen more rounds (with me hopefully), your mates don't have the endurance for it. Plain and simple.

[quote name='Systemfailure' timestamp='1299479008' post='2655127'] hey i figured out this quote works just as well describing you guys too. It is not honorable to hold your nations in a state of war because you do not want to lose your record of not losing. your as stubbon as us when it comes to the word surrender it seems. [/quote] Lol no. We're not going to surrender simply because we're kicking your guy's a**** And it's not like you guys have anybody to fall back on. You stabbed VE and other allies in the back. NpO is being destroyed as well so they're not coming to the rescue. Fark has left, I can't say I blame them. They deserve better. And your upper and middle tier is completely destroyed so you have little source of war aid. And lets be realistic. Lower tier nations aren't mean't to have 1 month plus worth of warchest availability.

[quote name='Stewie' timestamp='1299457209' post='2654824'] PC offered them the Following terms 1. Surrender to PC 2. Do Not re-enter on the NpO/NPO front Yep, that's it. And they refuse the term "surrender" in the terms. -- ROK, in the STA thread one of your members said you will not surrender due to honour. It is not honorable to hold your nations in a state of war because you do not want to lose your record of not losing. You went to defend NpO, against your SF bloc allies and VE. I offer you props for going against the bulk of your allies to defend another one, but doing so was not honourable. Stop lying to yourselves that you are. You guys are a group of bullies who think they can get their way and didn't count on getting sucker punched by a smaller, better coordinated alliance and denying that you have been beaten by Poison Clan just extends the war, damaging your nations much more than ours. Yes there are some of our older nations down in the low levels with you scrapping away, hell I am one of them, but accept defeat, before you lose more than just NS in the aftermath. [/quote] I love this quote. I don't think anybody could have said it better.

It's not just those two but it's RoK as well, there an absolute joke. They had 700k+ NS on us, almost double our numbers and the advantage of surprise and now there currently losing by nearly 600k

[quote name='mikk206' timestamp='1299115044' post='2650235'] Why on earth would you think such a dumb thing? People go out and fight and back to peace all the time. You're failing here [/quote] Yes I know people do all the time, hell I'm doing it myself at the moment. But NPO doesn't, many of your members managed to escape to peace mode before the NPO-Doomhouse front even started or they managed to escape before a member of GOONS/UK/UMB/FAN had the opportunity to declare war on them and then stagger thus keeping them out of peace mode. Most of your hippie mode members have not fought a single round. Your the one not understanding.

[quote name='mikk206' timestamp='1299081237' post='2649620'] According to [url="https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ao8LX9Y0ZHL6dEV2cFA3d05jdGFhVWJsYW9qcWtaaEE&hl=en#gid=2"]this[/url], what ever it is, we have 38% in hippie on our front and NPO has 32%, Doomhouse&pals have 27% in peacemode. So leaving aside the fact that you are a victim of catchy slogans, what's your point? [/quote] Although those stats may be true, which they probably are. The majority of Doomhouse members in peace mode have already foughten a couple of rounds and are currently in the process of repurchasing nukes and/or waiting to get out of nuclear anarchy to collect taxes. Meanwhile the majority of NPO members in peace mode haven't fought any rounds yet, and they are letting thier allies do the work and taking all the nukes for them.. which is quite a shame because NPO has some respectable allies and it's a shame they had to get sucked into this.

How do you determine who the President is?

[quote name='mikk206' timestamp='1298994074' post='2648129'] GOONS really should spy on rebuilding plans more, they are going to need it. [/quote] 1/2 of NPO is going to need it too. Then again I'm sure you already have a plan considering you guys got whooped in the last Global War. Atleast GOONS has the balls to stand thier ground and fight against overwhelming sheer numbers instead of hiding in pus.. i mean hippie mode.

[quote name='Vespassianus' timestamp='1298994653' post='2648141'] I win because i'm 4th in casualities Also PS is very good at fighting, good job guys! [/quote] Your soldiers triumphantly and decisively defeated your enemy in this battle. Your soldiers owe their lives to your hard work as their leader. In your victory your forces captured 13.570 miles of land from Hungary. They also destroyed 22.884 infrastructure within Hungary. They also stole 2.288 technology from Hungary. The value of your equipment abandoned in the battle was $0.00. Your forces looted $10,000.00 from the nation of Hungary. Lol thanks. Out of everyone in this war, i think I'm having the most fun in this war.. cause I'm PC and it's not very often I get to fight my own mates and allies Oh and thanks for your nuke the other day..

Oh the irony

[quote name='welshgazza1992' timestamp='1298687579' post='2645115'] Ragnarok has become one of Cybernations' great military powers. [/quote] Hahah that made my day