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  2. Greatest Alliance Rivalries

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    Posted

    [quote name='Draztikus' timestamp='1305611600' post='2713507']
    TOP/Umbrella/Grëmlins vs fighting on the losing side of a war
    [/quote]
    TOP lost against the world, and GRE lost against IRON (I don't care what anyone says, Ram made them lose that one).

  3. Greatest Alliance Rivalries

    in Open World RP

    Posted

    [quote name='goldielax25' timestamp='1305609266' post='2713489']
    The last time I saw a thread like this, I believe it was Doitzel who came in and ended it with GGA vs. Success.
    [/quote]
    Now that you mention it, I do remember that thread. That post still gives me a chuckle.

  4. Greatest Alliance Rivalries

    in Open World RP

    Posted

    So, Baltus posted a question in our embassy about who we thought the top 5 greatest alliance rivalries of all time are. I find this to be an interesting topic, so I thought I would share my answers and get your own personal top 5's for discussion's sake.

    1. NAAC - NPO
    2. NpO - TOP
    3. Fark - GOONS
    4. MK - NPO
    5. TPF - NoR/NoV

  6. Concerning Gotham

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    Posted

    Go apply at a large alliance that doesn't give a crap what Gotham wants. They won't be able to PZI you (at this point they probably won't [i]want[/i] to anymore considering the negative PR). They can claim people stopped them from carrying out their will rather than backing down, you will be safe in whatever alliance actually feels like tolerating you, and everyone can move on with their lives.

  11. Statement From Dos Equis

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted

    [quote name='Steve Buscemi' timestamp='1305573764' post='2712940']
    No, not really. But both MHA and Sparta have a reputation for just joining the winning side and bandwagon'ing in major wars. So this topic isn't really helping that reputation of just joining the party late to be part of the 'winning' side. I'm not saying I agree with your rep, but this isn't a good way to change it, imo.
    [/quote]
    Gremlins is a winning side now? :blink:

    It's just a declaration of support (12 minutes after their announcement at that). I'm not sure how supporting the efforts of our good friends to reestablish their old home translates into us bandwagoning on...well...anything. If somebody actually has the sentiment that this announcement means anything beyond what is stated in OP, I invite them to share it, because I honestly am intrigued.

  15. Statement From Dos Equis

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted

    [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1305509369' post='2712519']
    I have a quick and sincere question to the leaders of MHA, FARK, R&R and Sparta:

    If in future a group of ex-members of your alliance decide that you are a bad leader and then coup you, will you be ok with that?
    [/quote]
    So [i]that[/i] is why Olaf rejoined? :o

  18. Rating Alliances 2.0...now with blocs!

    in World Affairs (IC)

    Posted · Edited by Hyperion321

    Valhalla had it right last war. If somebody who isn't tied to you starts a war with an alliance you don't give a crap about, why should you have bleed for it, [i]especially[/i] if the main cause of the war is an alliance you don't even like. Fighting for people you would rather kill than die for is stupid, and is the exact reason why non chaining clauses exist.

  20. An Announcement From Dos Equis

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted

    [quote name='BamaBuc' timestamp='1305003042' post='2709492']
    Oh, obviously breaking off in that fashion cuts deeper than picking sides in a war. I'm just saying that it's rather stupid to judge TPF by something done in early 2007 that has virtually no bearing on the composition or character of the alliance today. How many of the TF! founders even rule nations anymore, let alone how many are still in TPF?

    -Bama
    [/quote]
    I think that's the point in that we've all pissed off people in the distant past, whether intentional or not, and that everyone holding on to their grudges is pointless. Nobody in CN is completely innocent, and scolding others while ignoring their own faults is pretty ignorant.

  22. An Announcement From Dos Equis

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted

    [quote name='SpiderJerusalem' timestamp='1304989389' post='2709373']
    Not that I am an expert here... But FARK calling TPF backstabbers may be unrelated to the UjW
    [/quote]
    I believe they are referencing Slayer taking a bunch of people from TF to form TPF, but I could be wrong. That was like 4 years ago so my memory is a tad fussy.

  23. An Announcement From Dos Equis

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted · Edited by Hyperion321

    [quote name='Vol Navy' timestamp='1304968843' post='2709152']
    Post as they will, their latest action was aiding PB/DH in this war. That's what we all have to go on. They've never put themselves on the line yet. Maybe now after most of the non-neutral planet has taken a big beating they will consider flexing some of their muscle.
    [/quote]

    So...let me get this straight. It's wrong that we hit an entire bloc without a treaty to help our allies, and yet we have never put ourselves on the line for our friends? I am not sure how those are mutually exclusive. From my point of view, that's putting ourselves pretty far out on the line, especially considering how much crap got dumped on us after our declaration (both politically and militarily). It seems like at this point you will hate us no matter what we do. If we didn't hit NV, you would have called us cowards. If we did hit NV, you would have called us puppets. It doesn't matter what kind of paradoxes you bring up in your points, nothing anyone can say will ever sway you, and that is exactly the problem with people in Bob. Suffice to say that kind of childish grudge holding is [i]exactly[/i] why Pacifica keeps getting rolled.

    You can't call for people to forget the past and then simultaneously hold on to every single ill feeling for the rest of your CN career. Everyone else has moved on from the past, why can't you.

    [quote name='Vol Navy' timestamp='1304969191' post='2709156']
    They stayed out because staying in would have cost them political capitol and nation strength. But that shouldn't matter. You shouldn't let your friend and eternal ally be pounded to microdust if you can do anything to help.
    [/quote]

    Sparta didn't want our allies to get "pounded to microdust" so we hit NV. We didn't care about "cost to political capitol and nation strength". When things went !@#$ up Fark and MHA came to our defense to prevent [i]us[/i] from getting "pounded to microdust" regardless of their own "costs of political capitol and nation strength". How in the [i]hell[/i] can you say any of us never do anything for our allies when all of us [i]just went[/i] head first into over a dozen alliances without even activating a treaty.

    That's exactly what I mean by your paradoxes. All of us would do anything, and [i]have[/i] done [i]everything[/i] to protect our allies, and yet you still refuse to leave us alone. Fark has charged into alliances larger than themselves for years, taken onslaughts from high NS PB defectors, and survived one of the most brutal CN genocides in history. MHA, even after everything that happened in the last war, still stood up and hit an absolute home run for their friends when they needed it most. R&R has been protecting the likes of LEO, SF, XX, and many an individual ally for over four years and has never, ever [i]once[/i] shied away from a fight. Sparta is proud to be beside the most durable, the most forgiving, and the most courageous bloc mates we have ever had, and if that somehow pisses you off to the point of turning even the most celebratory threads into hate filled pissing contests, then I am truly sorry for you.

  24. Official Notification

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted

    [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1304926112' post='2708973']
    I fought approximately 16 wars, and with the exception of one nation that I declared in the first round, they were all bigger than me and in the first rounds I was losing almost 200 tech by each nuke:



    That hurts a lot. :(
    [/quote]
    Yep, that would do it. :blink:

  25. An Announcement From Dos Equis

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted · Edited by Hyperion321

    [quote name='Vol Navy' timestamp='1304920783' post='2708947']
    Q hit your allies?? You were in Q up until what...a couple of days before the war started? Violating the intelligence clause in Q for months at the time no less.[/quote]
    Us being in Q a few days before the war started doesn't mean it's suddenly okay to hit our allies and expect us to just sit there. Q was delusional if they thought we would sit that out.

    [quote]And yes....when Umbrella is saying "you go here and do this" with no regard for the massive PR fallout or terrible beating your alliance took for making the move, and you go blindly along, that's leaning towards puppet status.[/quote]
    So we're a terrible alliance because we were willing to take a political and military hit for our allies? You are confusing puppetry with dedication to friends. As a member of TPF, you of all people should understand that.

    [quote]I just crack up at the last statement. You back people whom are sure to win and in exchange give up all independence. You spent a long time in Q lending political and military strength to it's actions. You've never "lost" a war because you and MHA have both gotten out of dodge when the fire was ready to fly. MHA ignored a treaty with a year long cancellation clause in Karma and watched NPO burn, then ignored a treaty with no cancellation clause and watched Gramlins be crushed into a micro alliance. [/quote]
    1 - We thought that IRON, TOP, and NPO would all be on the same side during Karma when we jumped in to help GOD. We honestly thought our side would have been crushed just based on their stats alone (IRON and NPO each had 4k nukes, which was unheard of at the time, and TOP was...well...TOP). Luckily for us, Fark and GRE took care of business and neutralized the hardest front of the war.

    2 - When we hit IRON in cluster$%&@, we again thought there was a good chance of supergrievances getting overwhelmed due to Polar being on the other side. Again, lucky for us, Polar screwed over half the world and allowed our side to win the longest and most painful fight of our CN careers (Feanor's nukes still hurt to this day).

    3 - Just because people on the other side have lost three straight wars doesn't mean we always back "the winning side". We've rolled with generally the same group of allies (pre-XX) for over two years now. It's not as much as us always winning wars so much as it's you always losing them. You screwed the pooch when NPO hit OV early, TOP got set up to lose when Polar betrayed them, and Polar got screwed when PB found a suitable CB (legit or not, this isn't the place to debate that) to roll the living crap out of them. We had the same allies in every single war, and every single war the other side found a way to make themselves lose. You shouldn't be blaming us my friend, you should be blaming yourselves.

    [quote]The day either of you stand by someone and get stomped in a losing war and don't bail is the day that will change mine and a lot of minds on Sparta. There is a reason why so many people from both sides think you are a terrible alliance, it's not just because you took a major beating in a winning war either.[/quote]
    I still don't understand this misconception that no alliance is respectable until they lose a war. We like winning, and we're going to keep trying to win until the day Admin turns off the lights. Maybe if ya'll stopped finding ways to keep yourselves from winning every single war the story would be a little different.

    [quote]I would love to be proven wrong and see this be a truly independent bloc. I will be extremely surprised if it ever comes to pass given the current treaties of individual members and their direct ties to the PB/DH/SF/CnG sphere.
    [/quote]
    Those ties go both ways, my friend.

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