Master Holton
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It's interesting how SNX has caused so much trouble for their current allies, both on an FA and in-game level.
I wonder if certain parties regret protecting them at this point.
Enjoy your eternal micro-wars with Methrage. I found fighting micros to be a task in frustration but maybe people like Junka actually enjoy the OWF exchanges.
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Save the Polar Bears Pact
Article I: Don't hurt the Polar bears
Both signatories will hereafter refrain from any form of hostile activity, hereafter defined as military force, internal subversion or espionage of any kind, against the other.
Article II: Respect the Polar bears
Signatories of this pact pledge to show only respect and good will towards each other. While this will prohibit outright verbal hostility in all its forms, it will not restrict healthy debate or productive disagreement.
Article III: Save the Polar bears!
If either signatory requests assistance in the form of military assistance, economic aid, or political intervention, it is strongly encouraged for the other signatory to provide what help it can, though both parties accept that this is not an obligation.
Article IV: Where are the Polar bears
Should vital knowledge of a political or military nature come to the attention of one signatory, they are required to share it with the other.
Article V: Give up on the Polar bears? (NEVER!)
It is the hope of both signatories that this pact may last forever, or until the bond it represents grows to the point where an upgrade is merited. Given the uncertainties of the future, however, it is recognized that should any of the above Articles be violated, or should some major irreparable disagreement arise, that this pact maybe canceled after 72 hours notice.Signed for the New Polar Order,
EaTeMuP - Emperor
Lestat - Regent
Holton - Minister of Truth
Buuyo - Minister of Peace
QuantumLeap - Minister of Love
Thomas Venner - Minister of Plenty
Emperor Jason - Deputy of Peace
Tenbob - Deputy of Plenty
Krazy - Deputy of Truth
AlmightGrub - Imperator Emeritus
Dajobo - Imperator Emeritus
Signed for The Bear Cavalry,
Gibsonator21, Tagalongs
Shurukian, Carmel Delights
Van Hoo III, Thin MintsOther announcement - Help us welcome QuantumLeap and Thomas Venner back into gov :)
That is all!
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Longer than I'll ever admit to any woman I'm considering dating.
read: at all
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Methrage is just trying to bring stability to the brown team. Why can't you bullies leave him alone?
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You have it.
You heard it here first boys. Remask me pl0x.
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o/ Rushsykesalliance
waiting for dual membership tho
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Hopefully this means y'all will make a come back.
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R&R really coming alive lately. Nice to see.
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News flash: opinions, and people, are capable of changing.
Except you. You'll always be terrible. <3
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R&R completely abandoned their principles with this treaty. This is an absolute outrage, Non Grata is one of the absolute worst alliances on this planet I can't believethisohmyactualgodiamjustsomad.
Congrats lol.
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notice of NpO disbandment is actually being posted tonight so
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Hey Frawley if you post the PM'd nominations you got, I'll compile what we have into a vote. I don't mind a smaller audience. Obviously leave out the names to enforce the privacy factor, I suppose.
Also if anyone wants to just PM me their nominations, that's fine too. I'll probably get the voting up sometime this weekend.
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Apologies to those who have entered, but due to a clearl lack of interest there is no point going ahead with this.
:saddowns:
I was interest
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You must have a very broad definition of "interesting stuff" as I would say less than a dozen people.
I was going to go with less than 20 people but NPO's gov alone is like 50+ people. lol.
But the "interesting stuff" doesn't always just have to be what's happening in the top ten alliances. I find Kashmir, TAO, Monster's Inc, etc. interesting in their own ways.
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I was promised a hilarious and brilliantly-written treaty. It was delivered.
Congrats to both parties and very nicely written. One of the few walls-of-text I've actually read recently rather than skimmed.
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because people take this !@#$ way too seriously and have anger problems?
$%&@ everyone except me
especially you <3:wub: Glad to have you back in the world.
Here I am agreeing with a Polar...Junka..just step back..you greatly overvalue yourself...
Yes... Yes... Let the Blue flow through you...
I think you do need to spell it out. Colour me intrigued, but I think a public statement is very capable of being respectfully disagreeing. Very much like a public statement can be disrespectfully agreeing or just plain disrespectful or just plain respectful -- or even neither. A public statement can carry absolutely any tone it's intended to carry.
I have to respectfully disagree with your public statement.This is actually a good example of respectfully disagreeing. :)
Quite honestly, I'd be quite happy to see everyone's opinion publicly. The world needs more public opinion, stand on your soapbox and preach, every single one of you reading this.
Meta-discussion - I would be excited to see more out-in-the-open politics happen. It's really a shame that the most interesting stuff happens between less than 100 people.
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Two great alliances.
One great treaty.
o/
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i don't really see why it's in bad taste to be straight up about things, especially since this is the treaty that caused him to choose to leave the alliance. i have bad !@#$ to say about everybody. if you don't have anything bad to say about a person or grouping, you don't know them well enough.
I don't think I really need to spell out how making a statement in public isn't the same as respectfully disagreeing.
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Really?
Is there even another alliance who formed this year?
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When people sign treaties like this one - with one side they hate only marginally less than the other - it really calls into question who/what is competing against whom/what.
It would be just as interesting (and about as arbitrary) if you all just drew random numbers and then lined up to have an even fight. You've already abandoned any pretense of principle, so what difference does it make who ends up on your side, and who on the other? After all, you're relevant!Some consider it in bad taste to leave your alliance and immediately have something bad to say about them.
How many of those "new" alliances are led by new leaders?
How many alliances have people in their government that have been on Bob for led than 2 years?
How many alliance leaders that have been here for than 4 years?
Yes this treaty may not last long, but every single new nation, every single utility new alliance is suffocated on the battlefield & in the political arena.
Understand I am not talking about/for TPF or our place in the world nor our future. Bob need to become an atmosphere where those of us that have been around for a long time steward in the truly new, let the kids run wild for a time, and make it fun for them politically and/or on the battlefield.
I am saying all of this completely neutral. I don't want back in on some level. I don't want any gain for myself or TPF. It is not a personal attack at all.I completely agree with your points that new blood being allowed into leadership is a good thing. The "old guard" mentality combined with the lack of influx of new nations creates a stagnant political environment.
How can anyone expect to be able to "take a stand" while still functioning as anything more than a target or an irrelevance when it is literally the same people making the calls in politics for years at a time?
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What if it is a dogfish?
Congrats on bucking the status quo.YOU FOOLS
Hahaha :)
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LOL...
You fools don't get what is killing Bob...
In order for the Bob to survive there has to be some semblance chance at competition.
Oh well, one more nail I guess.
Can we call Bob2 Richard? You know long Dick...because someone will be bound from Bob1 to $%&@ it if it were ever to happen.
Horrible power mongering treaty that makes for a boring uncompetitive world. If admin took away war on Bob at least 50% of treaties would be cancelled. People would go to TE to blow off steam specially of it had a longer cycle and a limited numbed of nations per alliance.I haven't had my morning tea so this may be a bit more incoherent than I want it to be...
But your outdated version of "competition" hasn't existed since almost the first year of this world. This treaty is part of the competition, as is every treaty. What's killing this world is the inability for inactive alliances, like TPF, to recognize that they need to either disband or merge because their failings are two-fold: You aren't contributing to the political game and you're allowing other political players to use you as a convenient target in order to delay real political moves.
This world is thriving in competition - You simply have to join the ranks of those still competing rather than sitting still in your den of barely-alive nations.
And it's not some "elitist" alliance thought either. Doom Kingdom, Kashmir, Monster's Inc... All new alliances that are having a fine time with their own visions for the game. It just requires activity and the desire to actually play, rather than whine that no one else is playing by your expectations.
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Disorder 2: The Empire Strikes Back
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Basically this is the beginning of the NSO and NpO rivalry. Vae Victis.
Burn The Treaty Web
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This is the true purpose of treaties.
Public declarations of support. Something which will continue to happen regardless of what we want to call our artifices. "Treaties" "relationships" all the same thought.
Perhaps a deeper inquiry into the relationships between alliances and the "whole" would better answer this thought of why our world withers.
What drives politics, wars, and everything else ever?
Competition.
The very mechanics of this game eliminate any kind of remotely fair competition on multiple, multiple levels. There are so many things preventing change and a complete lack of desire for said change that many of us have given up trying.