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He probably would due to my being at war with 3 NPO nations.

The leaders of this world have gotten skilled at sucking up to whomever they think may have power.

I'd join.

You should start an alliance.

Did you even look at the screenshot?

Because he called both of them a !@#$%.

Great point. Why should you have to back up your comments with things like an argument or supporting evidence? @ Bilrow: You guys need all the help you can get don't you?

Please, do provide evidence of these claims. Who did this?

Devil Dogs had 10 members. Jarheads before the war had 50. Clearly they all weren't knew and knew who NPO was since you've 'proved' that they were DD.

Meat shields and joining wars they have absolutely have nothing to do with? Thats your side, not mine.

So the clean slate thing NPO claimed to have given them is a lie because they're still responsible of their actions?

The guy who hacked your forums was the one who told you they were plotting against you. Clearly he had your best interests at heart when coming to you with this information and it wasn't an attempt at taking things out of context to get you to fight his battles for him against an alliance he left because he didn't get forum admin. Also, you may have given them a clean state, but you never once contacted their leaders and neither did IRON. You claim that might makes right in this situation, yet it clearly doesn't.Instead of diplomacy you attacked them and then offered peace.

Your right, he should have explained the entire cn political landscape to them. Enjoy your floundering curbstomp. Maybe you should call in more allies to a unjust fight you can even finish on your own?

Not really. They were asked to join. Asked. He holds no power over these people. He merely asked them to join.

I don't believe the issue iswith him getting kicked out, it with you not talking to your own protectorate about accusations fro ma guy who left because he didn't get admins (as you claim).

I'm currently attacking the New pacific order. I know its unfair but I can only attack so many and you guys were cruel to a new alliance first. Edit: I like how your post doesn't address how you guys never attempted diplomacy, but instead asserts might makes right.

Yeah, I'm sure you would absolutely love to recruit them to your alliance. Because honestly, your not just going to let them surrender and go free your going to force them into your alliance or one of your allies alliances. Which is why it would be a shame to lose new players. If you truly felt that way you have used diplomacy, not cowardice in your decisions.

They didn't, I went at length to try and get them to admit to it but it ended up going in circles of them saying "They knew" "Second chances" "They deserve it" and then of course they tried pointing it back at vox asking if they would use diplomacy.

You seem to have read the thread. You should know that semper fidelus proved screenshots proving the person who leaked the month old plot was the same person who attacked the NPOs forums. However if your interested in actually talking to your former protectorate about the situation they do use IRC. but That would be diplomacy, and with that you could have avoided this entire conflict and kept 300 allies that actually didn't dislike the NPO when they were attacked.

Conned into joining? They were asked to join by a youtube video and then the NPO declared war on the alliance. No one forced them to join and they sure as hell weren't tricked into attacking the NPO.

Did you ever contact them or consult them on the accusation you had heard about them wishing to destroy the NPO? You were their protectors after all.

Yeah, because those things were proven. Oh wait, they weren't. The guy who did the hacking is the one who told you of the month old plot to attack NPO which can't really be verified as an actual 'plot'. there have been numerous and I do mean numerous irc logs posted by people saying "hay lets destry the npo". Yet these are clearly seen as jokes. However when you see someone else say it, out of context, you immediately believe it to be their desire and intent and attack them for it. And I'm not your friend.

Protip: Raid is bug repellent. Your not exactly very superior than these 'pests' your floundering at destroying.

First off, I'm neither your friend nor your brother. Its funny actually, the person who leaked the logs of the supposed plot against the NPO after being kicked out of Jarheads is the same person who attacked NPOs forums. The 'plot' was also a month or so old and since then they had decided they liked being a protectorate of IRON one of NPOs allies. Also, you know what you just agreed to right? By repeating "they knew, they knew" you agreed with my statements against the NPO. Which were that they'll have their allies attack you and that everyone else in cn is a coward. By saying "they knew" you infer that not only are my claims true, but so true that even new players know them.

For what exactly? For questioning the hegemony? They're new, they haven't learned that if you ever oppose the NPO they'll have their allies kill you yet. Don't worry, I'm sure soon they'll lose their spines and be like the rest of cn. A bunch of cowards afraid for their nations. Afraid to compete against the NPO. Slavery is freedom. Ignorance is strength.