KenoDurkster

First poster Very nice they have in stock i are somewhat jealous

your sucha debbie downer lol reporting me for that kinda image it's obviously fake =\ and technically i dont think it's illegal to eat chicken with fingers & toes in China..(might be) and iv seen much worse on CN Forums such as Pot leaves (which yes is illegal no matter where you live. ((Sorry California your still apart of the USA)))

hey i never said you couldn't do this but if this is your way of having fun then by jolly say it say that you think destroying alliances is fun (this is a obvious trick into making you state your exactly like NPO which i know you won't fall for which is why i am saying this)...but yes state that this war is your way of having fun just the war part like war in general

aww lame thats not fair then...

LE is very fair and balanced in that it attacks it's own in top 40. Very fair

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U gotta combine SOS & RoWN anarchys and the 3 Redro Urug Anarchys i got in

also to add i hopethe new leadership does just as good if not better a job

well honestly was not me... LPE does not have a forums ill give you OON and Round 6's IRA forum http://s1.zetaboards.com/OoON/index/ http://s1.zetaboards.com/IrishRepublicanArmy/index/

Congrats on the change

ask France how OON wouldnt give up ;D. I offered to perma war france until 2010

I would agree with Seth you don't nessecairly know what an alliance is thinking if you do then ethier your apart of the discussion or you know things that would best be kept quiet about if you like your nation. I don't say i know whats going on in the leaderships mind. I just speak my opinion and try and base it on common sense and facts(though i am sure some of my facts are not true)

that metaphore does not work since once you re-roll under completely new info your no longer being held underwater your just holding your words & the people that know who you are's words very tightly.

what NPO did was the past.. according to some of you guys Past needs to be forgotten as it's good karma? Article 8. With the granting of peace to IRON, IRON agrees to grant peace to all nations on Planet Bob. All existing wars, PZI lists, EZI lists, and ZI lists are to be considered null, void, and waived. Clean the slate. It’s considered good karma to forgive old grudges. That way you can be the happy drunk everybody laughs with instead of the mean drunk everybody laughs at. I see hypocrisy, I smell Hypocrisy, I hear Hypocrisy so therefore it must be HYPOCRISY. You can not "force an nation out" they can re-roll under new ruler name & new nation name. and how are you to know there true identity? Now you can force a person into hiding. But to quit the game no thats the own players choice because they lost the game.

who are you to decide whats best for the game. You have no right to say that at all. this war has ruined 1000's of nations at the price of saving maybe 4-5 small alliances for this year. You guys had a good objective you guys just let it get clouded by not being more open and in your wanting to not be a permanet bloc you let organization go to hell making it that when a person like me asks "why did you do it" there are multiple answers all pointing in diffrent directions. Note: Bolded words in my response are opinions of mine from what i have seen all I am sure many of us want is 1 official thread stating what every karma alliance wanted from this war. if you can provide that ill never question karma again.

Again what happened to germany WW2 happened almost exactly to NPO they got attacked by the world and destroyed completely and even split up. But in the end relations got better after people instead of thinking of Germany just think "hitler" so NPO as an allaince will be forgiven just not it's leadership. Nor do i support NPO blindly really i don't like them i hate what they did in Vision war (i was in CSN at the time) it's just the fact that people would say it's ok for us to have revenge and destroy and alliance but say they have the justification for doing so because of ones past... your basicly setting youself up for distater.. your no better then NPO other then the fact your replacing what bad figure with another less bad but really no better one. EDIT: GPA gaining the sanction was just an un-intentional yet probably forseen result from the power grab. GPA gaiend it through being neutral had they joiend a side they would not have it. They played the game smart and were rewarded through others downfalls.

if Karma believes this is the way they wanna play the game and enjoy it thats fine. If holding grudges and masking Power grabbing with lies is there way of fun i have no problem with it. Wether or not it was intentional or not yes This was a power grab ;P as you can see the karma sides gained the power.

ok so you get a shiny flag and you got your power what do you do with power? use it NPO did in the way they thought was right they lost that power. What if (this is a what if and off topic) TOP,Sparta,MHA act like NPO x 3. Would you say the Karma war was just a ploy to take over and was made to be seen as a effort to bring freedom to all? (this is just to see what personally you would say) Also with the smaller alliances yes those reds were there for that very reason you stated but opinions can be changed very easily in many cases. NPO apoligized for it's passed onr ed team and even changed there doctrine. Germany had a bloody holocaust but look at them now friends with most if not all the world. The Past means very little unless you have a personal agenda. Karma was just that a personal vendetta & power grabbing. two wrongs don't make a right. Revenge only breed more revenge. many ways of putting it.

you can re-gain friends look at VE & GGA they are ok with each other.... Also who needs sanctioned whom will soon tear each other apart when u can find good allies in red team and try and fix those relations. Id rather have 10 small alliance allies then 2 big ones. Big alliances are less reliable small alliances have more honor & pride. IMO

punish them for playing the game they way they thought was fun? ohh SORRY!!!

only a OV would say that ^.-... darn liberals Fox > All thats why it's more watched ^^

well i am saying even if the first karma war is a succes they pay terms are you willing to fight anotehr war? and i am guessing this time NPO will be a bit more prepared and have better allies.

You thought i somewhat know it will happen lol. So now once NPO comes back (which it will because it wasnt #1 by chance) they basicly have more support and a 2nd karma type war against NPO will be less effective PR wise since people shalls ee the first one didn't really fix anything. Karma needs to learn that only thing that will make NPO change is NPO itself.

Personally i believe that this war may have helped NPO's PR greatly as once you hit rockbottom you can only go up ;P. So really in the long run NPO wins the war of Relations. Also Karma Forces more so look like bullies for the gangbang. tromp this isn't a what if tho

Would you say the karma war made you go from anti-NPO to pro NPO? this is a very simple question not asking for any essay answers here or anything just simple 1 paragraph or even 1 sentence yes or no's