Lochiel

[quote name='Clash' timestamp='1289265851' post='2506886'] [url="http://tournament.cybernations.net/stats_alliance_stats_custom.asp?Alliance=Roman+Empire&input1="]Roman Empire[/url] 90 nations 132,769ns - anarchied: 45 [url="http://tournament.cybernations.net/stats_alliance_stats_custom.asp?Alliance=Roman+Empire&input1=RE+Applicant"]RE Applicant[/url] 12 nations 14,646ns - anarchied: 5 [url="http://tournament.cybernations.net/stats_alliance_stats_custom.asp?Alliance=RE+Applicant&input1=Imperium+Romanum"]Imperium Romanum[/url] 11 nations 8,180ns - anarchied: 5 --- Roman Totals: 112 nations 155,728ns, total anarchied: 55 [url="http://tournament.cybernations.net/stats_alliance_stats_custom.asp?Alliance=Warriors"]Warriors[/url]: 86 nations 162,604ns, anarchied: 18 [/quote] I like stats too - but not ^That^ much ..... Mine are based - solely - on the differences between Warriors & RE Warriors have RE beat in everything except member numbers 90 RE & 86 Warriors Stats can be manipulated - but the following are true at 9:03:29 AM game time today 9th November [quote] [list][*]Warriors have 22.9% more strength than RE[*][list][*]All figures are calculated based on improvement needed by RE to achieve Warriors stats[*]ie RE (131,167) + (22.9% x 131167) = 161,268 (Warriors Strength)[/list][*][img]http://209.85.48.10/12912/43/upload/p3446719.png[/img][*]Warriors have 28.68% more average strength[*]Warriors have 18.61% more infra[*]Warriors have 16.08% More Tech[*]Warriors have 133% More Nukes[*]Warriors have 53% Less Anarchy [/quote][/list] [font="Times New Roman"][size="4"][i]Yet Warriors are only beating RE by a score of 0.14 - 0.59% More than RE [/i][/size][/font][indent][font="Times New Roman"][size="4"][i]Kinda Odd Scoring system in CN (TE) ?? [/i][/size][/font] [/indent]

[img]http://209.85.48.12/13066/128/upload/p2866693.gif[/img] [indent][font="Times New Roman"][size="4"]Good luck to GDA & Azure Coalition ..... ..... you'll need it [/size][/font] [img]http://209.85.48.12/13066/128/upload/p2866693.gif[/img] [/indent]

[quote name='dogbite' timestamp='1289196717' post='2505862'] what you dont think i can protech them? [/quote] Unless you use Crazy Meg ..... [indent]...... you haz no chance [/indent]

[quote name='dogbite' timestamp='1289195098' post='2505840'] That aa is protected by ozland cobras. [/quote] What are you drinking lately Dogbite ? Electro Movimiento has more than TWICE OLC's NS ..... ..... AND you are the only OLC Nation which could contribute if EM were attacked [hr] [font="Times New Roman"][size="4"][i]Now I haz 2 defensive slots available, if you're really wantin' a fight mate x X x [/i][/size][/font]

[quote name='Schad' timestamp='1289066465' post='2504050'] If you'd declared on them, we'd have had to declare on ourselves. [/quote] Lol, self abuse AND premature attackulation ..... [indent]..... PS seem to have some weird barbies lately [/indent]

[quote name='Oryx30' timestamp='1288990606' post='2503123'] We not saying dont have wars (its the T/E after all) but having an alliance 50 plus continually raiding an alliance of 5 until depletion kinda defeats the purpose of the game [/quote] [indent]Please explain "the purpose of the game" ?? [/indent][quote name='Einer' timestamp='1288994551' post='2503171'] Back when I was the de facto leader of a small alliance, we had a simple motto: "We raid up." [/quote] [indent]I'm guessing that Alliance doesn't exist any more [/indent][hr] If new players with NEW Nations feel they are getting bullied - they can ..... [list=1][*]Have a cry here - as many of you do [*]Buy 5 GC's & 2 per day CM's - make the attacker remember them [*]Join/Create a larger Alliance [*]Team up with another Nation who is being "bullied" by the same guy/gal - that works great sometimes [/list] Tbh, there are many many ways to learn (evolve) in this game as a newbie ..... [indent] ..... the guys who are raiding you are being up-front ..... irritating, when you've planned your next infra jump or wonder - but they are being honest in their fighting [list][list][*](kinda the purpose of the game Oryx)!! ??[/list][/list]..... the guys who aren't raiding, are not even fighting (flag chasers) - they are the ones I'd criticise !! [/indent] Like teh Llama - I have often praised and/or given advice to raid targets who have fought back ...... ..... that is always well intentioned ..... sometimes well received ..... Definitely the basis of great friendships when followed thru' [indent][list][*]My initial relationship with TPF was as a 'Raidee' (is that a word ? ) of Burning Glory[list][*]We ended up the best of friends despite me battling 2 other TPF members too.[*]BG plays the game like teh Llama - plays to win (battles not flags) - but respects others too.[/list][*]The respect is Very Important[list][*]If you get raided (we ALL have) then peace out OR fight back[*]- NEVER get angry ([i][b]never fight angry[/b][/i]) - Learn from your experiences - Make friends, you'll learn lots[/list][*]TPF, IMHO, was the Best Ever Alliance with the best quality players .....[list][*]Learn their ways by joining, for a round or two, TPC, Warriors, OLC, WAPA or RD[*]I've fought with and learned from them all - OP seem to have a good alliance too - maybees next round [/list][/list][/indent][b] Does Anyone remember the Smellycats Alliance ? - great friends were made there too [/b]

[quote name='King James XVIII' timestamp='1288912467' post='2502305'] The larger alliances, with an obligation to defend its members, cracks down and crushes the smaller alliance. [/quote] IF your alliance has an [i][b]obligation[/b][/i] then it's written into your [b][i]Charter .....[/i][/b] [indent]..... if you don't like it - then change the Charter [/indent][indent][list][*]If a Nation within your Alliance 'strays' outwith your charter - then you have no obligation.[list][*]The obligation is ONLY written by each Alliance[*]So, as you are King Cobra, I fail to see your point [/list][/list] [size="4"]This is a WAR GAME ..... [/size][list][*]we were ALL new at one time[/list][indent][list][list][*]those who survive are worthwhile[*]those who don't are either unable or unwilling to learn[*]the OWF provides a great outlet for their tears [img]http://209.85.48.10/12924/52/upload/p3265731.gif[/img][/list][/list][/indent][/indent] [quote name='arcticllama' timestamp='1288936168' post='2502731'] I've been there.. I recommend being careful trying to start any AA under 10 members... and even then it is tough... We have had several RD members spin off to start their own alliances with varying degree of success.. the thought here is Protectorate... [/quote] Exactly - It isn't too hard to get the protection of a larger Alliance ...... [indent][indent]..... but, make sure ALL members have that protection clearly stated in their bios [/indent][/indent] [hr] Some smaller Nations & Alliances do rather well fighting off raiders ......[indent] ..... do we REALLY want to stop raiding ? ..... do we REALLY want to turn TE into a Flag race ? [/indent]

[font="Times New Roman"][size="5"]Awesome DoW [img]http://209.85.48.10/12924/52/upload/p3265722.gif[/img] ...... [/size][/font] [indent]...... and Happy Anniversary to a fine Alliance [img]http://209.85.48.10/12912/43/upload/p3318768.gif[/img] ...... also [img]http://209.85.48.10/12912/43/upload/p3442916.gif[/img] [/indent]

[font="Times New Roman"][size="5"]Really Good to see this !! [/size][/font]I've [b][i]always[/i][/b] fought against you guys SE & TE but [b][i]nearly always[/i][/b] end up making friends ...... [indent]..... most notably BigKat [/indent]CTA, as STA, know what they're doing - I hope your numbers grow to previous levels !! [indent][size="3"]o/ CTA [img]http://planetsmilies.net/kaos-animal-tiger-smiley-6228.gif[/img][/size] [/indent]

[quote name='Juggernaut123' timestamp='1286324474' post='2476552'] It's pretty hard to coordinate this with all those members [/quote] I've been in Bigger Alliances who manage to co-ordinate fine ..... [indent]..... are you saying that RE organisation / co-ordination sucks too [/indent]AND, it's pretty hard to argue with this ....... [u]RE's [b]mid-war[/b] stats [/u] [quote]Having 67 / 117 Nations in anarchy ?? Losing more than HALF of their starting NS ( 320k to 138k) ?? Having a TOP Nation at 2.8k NS ?? Having NO Nukes ??[/quote] ...... I think I might know what I'm talkin' about after all

[quote name='Lord Klusman' timestamp='1286243137' post='2474942'] Looks like RE has reached all there objectives for this war[/quote] Such as ?? Having 67 / 117 Nations in anarchy ?? Losing more than HALF of their starting NS ( 320k to 138k) ?? Having a TOP Nation at 2.8k NS ?? Having NO Nukes ?? [b]UNUSUAL Objectives !!! ?[hr] [/b][quote name='Lord Klusman' timestamp='1286243137' post='2474942'] I have sent orders to all Kiwi's (send RE nations peace offers!)[/quote] Disappointing Kiwis You fought well and without care for your infra(z) - TFK was respected for it's actions BUT - Unilateraly offering peace to RE when other Alliances are involved is one way to lose that respect [quote name='Lord Klusman' timestamp='1286243137' post='2474942'] Congratulation on your successful surprise blitz!!!!! [/quote] Whilst it's nice to be nice when ending a conflict - What success are you referring to ? RE Attacked TFK when you were just coming out of a war with Frogout and hit WAPA when we were 22 v 52 against the Abyss This thread is almost making their actions look respectable ..... they and their war performances really are NOT !! Granted, Mikey & ADude's DoW was done with humour ..... But - EVERYONE knew that despite the facts that .....[size="4"][font="Times New Roman"][size="3"][size="4"][font="Times New Roman"][size="3"] [indent]• they had numerical AND NS advantage • TFK were in recovery mode • WAPA (22 v's 52) had NO attacking slots to respond [/size][/font][/size][/size][/font][/size]..... it was a foregone conclusion that RE would lose !! [hr] [b] [/indent]As stated earlier - it's nice to be nice - but let's stick with reality - RE sucked BIG TIME !! [/b]

[quote name='St Mungo' timestamp='1285596762' post='2465996'] That is Amazing Grace. Gentle Lochiel. It makes me feel like. We're an Amazing alliance of Psychotic Alcoholics WAPA [/quote] [font="Times New Roman"][size="6"][img]http://209.85.48.12/13066/128/upload/p1811310.gif[/img][size="4"]St Mungo ....[/size] ..... they're Definitely Psychotic [img]http://209.85.48.12/13066/128/upload/p2866693.gif[/img] ..... GREAT to be fighting with you !![img]http://209.85.48.12/13066/128/upload/p2866693.gif[/img][/size][/font]

[font="Times New Roman"][size="6"][u]I don't speak for WAPA [/u][/size][/font] On the 23rd September - 22 of us attacked a (then) 52 man alliance, "The Abyss" Seldom, if ever, has [list][*]A War been so one sided[list][*] A Victory been so unanimous[*]An Alliance (TA) been so out-fought, out-manoeuvred & outclassed[/list][*] [img]http://209.85.48.10/12912/43/upload/p3430826.gif[/img][*][font="Times New Roman"][size="4"][i]The Broken line indicates the 'Mindless' interference by the Toga Girls - which made the odds [b]197 versus 22[/b] !![/i][/size][/font][*][img]http://209.85.48.10/12912/43/upload/p3430827.gif[/img][/list][font="Times New Roman"][size="4"]The Abyss' Contribution .......[/size][/font] [quote name='rodrod' timestamp='1285305253' post='2463057'] Couldn't have given me 3 more days huh? [/quote] [quote name='paperwings2007' timestamp='1285369942' post='2463671'] of course the day AFTER I buy my wonder... lol [/quote] [font="Times New Roman"][size="4"]My Point(s) ...... [list][*]WAPA are Awesome[list][*]I'm Bragging ? [img]http://209.85.48.12/13066/128/upload/p2866693.gif[/img][*]Absolutely [img]http://209.85.48.10/12924/52/upload/p3265989.gif[/img][/list][*][*]The Abyss, a relatively NEW Alliance, showed no class here[list][*]Individuals fought well - the Alliance didn't[*]But mainly,[list][*]because they don't have [b][size="5"]the class to surrender gracefully[/size][/b] - I'm rubbing their faces in it [img]http://209.85.48.10/12924/52/upload/p2095758.gif[/img][*]In fairness to The Abyss, RE's interference gave them no chance to recover[*] If they could have turned things round then they wouldn't have got full credit[/list][/list][*]RE ?[list][*]Your move on WAPA was done (by Mikey & ADude) with good humour[list][*]but it sucked and was ill thought out ![/list][*][*]The sheer logistics of us fighting 22 v 52 meant our slots were purty full[list][*]WAPA didn't complain ([size="1"]they're nuts[/size]) but RE's DoW was wrong[/list][/list][/list] To Sum up - [list][*]New Alliance, The Abyss - MUST do Better[*]Old Alliance, RE - you've lost the plot[list][*]RE has been like a School project gone wrong for at least 5 rounds[*]You've always had the numbers AND some nice guys[*]- but Everyone knows when RE fight / RE lose[*]- even RE know that[*]Stick to Toga Parties [/list][/list][/size][/font]

Good Luck to two of the most respected (and respectful) alliances in TE [img]http://209.85.48.10/12924/52/upload/p3265765.gif[/img] [indent] I haven't followed this round much but I'm kinda puzzled at the number of "WMD's" held by TPC ...... ...... I've never seen them so outnumbered ...... Extra super, Iranian style, Hidden Nuclear Missile Silos ???[/indent]

[quote name='Qazzian' date='21 July 2010 - 02:23 PM' timestamp='1279718619' post='2382471'] Link? [/quote] The Link [size="4"]is[/size] in Carpatus' post - [url="http://rete.tk/"][size="5"]rete.tk[/size][/url] Limited information on iPBFree's demise can be found [url="http://ipbfree.37project.org/index/"][size="4"]here[/size][/url] btw