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7 hours ago, Das Blitzkrieger said:
I also think that this award should be removed, and possibly replaced. What, if any, award would people like to see instead?
The only thing I heard of someone suggesting to change this award to stop what happened yesterday is:
1. Turn off the ability to create new nations say in the last week to a month before TE ends. As these are 100 day rounds, even a month doesn't sound too bad considering anybody who creates 30 days before TE ends is going to be a severe disadvantage due to lack of wonders.
2. Keep the ability of creating nations, but only count those who have more than a certain seniority. I believe an award used to be "Top 2 nations in the alliance with the highest avg. NS" so on the last day a couple big nations would make an alliance to snipe the award last minute. Setting a mandatory seniority that an alliance member must have before they contribute to alliance score would've stopped everything that happened yesterday on both sides.
A different award I'd like to see in place of strongest alliance is a return of the alliance with the highest avg NS award as mentioned above. As I said previously, alliance score is so easily manipulated by member count, that the strongest alliance award almost always goes to the alliance with more members. The fact that the alliance that won last night, was the one who accepted nations that were 0 days old should prove that. Alliances base their war targets all round based on avg NS, so to me, it's the fairest and best way to show who had the best members, pound for pound. But as I stated above, include alliance seniority as a factor.
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Alliance score is largely affected by member count. So much so, that in efforts to achieve the "Top Two Nations By Strength In The Strongest Alliance" award, nations who have literally contributed nothing to gameplay other than score inflation were spawned into the game on the last days of the round for the previous 2 rounds now. In efforts to show admin that this award needs to be changed, several alliances have banded together and sent all their membership to the same alliance.
With all the score manipulations that have taken place, this award has lost all meaning that admin originally intended, and I suggest it be removed.
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On 11/14/2017 at 3:00 PM, Blackatron said:
Neutral is usually used to refer to alliances which avoid fighting wars, however this is not always the case, for example I believe GOP declared war on MQ when they attacked TDO, GOP was a neutral alliance, but they felt that an attack on another neutral alliance for no other reason than them being neutral was an attack on their way of life.
RIP GOP. o/
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I instructed WD to stay away from those OPs.
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On 9/25/2017 at 1:28 PM, HiredGun said:
DEFCON 1 withdraws from the accords.
The accord is too open for manipulation and has already been used to avoid others.
You just want to raid War Doves. To this I say,
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On 9/12/2017 at 11:33 AM, Samwise said:
Stats from this morning before the boom booms:
IRON Nations: 15
NS: 446,793.99
Avg NS: 29,786.266
Infra: 68,209.35
Tech: 9,288.92
Land: 17,837.34
Nukes: 79DCS/NDO/OP/WD Nations: 24
NS: 600,467.74
Avg NS: 25,019.49
Infra: 103,443.34
Tech: 13,728.29
Land: 21,767.5
Nukes: 61I didn't account for the people who can't participate due to the hurricane or other RL issues, or non-built temp traders. Good luck all. o/
IRON Nations: 15
NS: 270,662.66
Avg NS: 18,044
Infra: 38,989.52
Tech: 5,345.81Land: 8,882.19
Nukes: 26DCS/NDO/OP/WD Nations: 24
NS: 327,279.18
Avg NS: 13,637
Infra: 57,759.85
Tech: 9,081.73
Land: 9,821.86
Nukes: 8Total NS Damages this war: 381,956.26
IRON dealt 59% of those total damagesCongrats all around guys. I had a blast, and I'm really glad to see that outside of an accidental declare, we all respected the no-war list. Thanks for the radiation and war commentary!
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I pinged RR, and he confirmed peace.
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Sorry @trs4ece The spirit was willing, but the body was not.
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Stats from this morning before the boom booms:
IRON Nations: 15
NS: 446,793.99
Avg NS: 29,786.266
Infra: 68,209.35
Tech: 9,288.92
Land: 17,837.34
Nukes: 79DCS/NDO/OP/WD Nations: 24
NS: 600,467.74
Avg NS: 25,019.49
Infra: 103,443.34
Tech: 13,728.29
Land: 21,767.5
Nukes: 61I did account for the people who can't participate due to the hurricane or other RL issues, or non-built temp traders. Good luck all. o/
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Who's side am I on? D:
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War Doves can fill in where you're light on NS if y'all want. It's just myself, Beli and tenno heika. The other 2 are temps and won't sandbag your guys.
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Ironborn you say? Are you team Yara or team Euron?
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If someone could switch with me and RP Daenarys while I RP the Night King or Euron Greyjoy, that'd be great.
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War Doves Declaration of Existence
Our Gov:
Cersei-Kurdanak of the House Lannister, the First of Her Name, Queen of the Andals and the First Men, Protector of the Seven KingdomsSpoilerDaenerys Samwise of the House Targaryen, the First of Her Name, rightful heir to the Iron Throne, rightful Queen of the Andals and the First Men, Protector of the Seven Kingdoms, the Mother of Dragons, the Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, the Unburnt, the Breaker of Chains
SpoilerJon Belisarius Snow - He's King in the North
SpoilerCome and hang out with us!
Forums: http://wardoves.net/forums/ | Discord: https://discord.gg/PtCebpV
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3 hours ago, Immortan Junka said:
From the perspective of the Defenders of the Imperium...
Nobody cries for Samwise
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On 7/22/2017 at 4:29 PM, President Horton said:
What you read above is how an alliance of 650,000 strength justifies attacking an Alliance of 280,000.
Yes, we actually did take a page out of your book with this war declaration. I can't tell. Is that irony?
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10 hours ago, AL Bundy said:
So just beat up NLON again?
Yes!
10 hours ago, Bajoran Federation said:There's nine days left in the round.. Nothing matters anymore lol
You guys are welcome to declare on the UN. I was actually hoping someone would haha
Plus, D1 might still come knock on our door
I might come knocking too. I'm not particularly bothered with who I end up warring this round. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
10 hours ago, AL Bundy said:Weird to just pick on them, again...Why not just everyone like always?
I declare war on everyone \o/
2 hours ago, antikato said:So, are you fighting with or against War Doves? If against, you have only 100k advantage. If you are fighting alongside them, as your declaration suggests you have 500k advantage which must be a record..
Either way I see 22 UN declarations and no war doves.
I had plans at last night's changeover. But I'm here now.
As much as I love warring NLoN, there is a reason for our declare. War Doves started the round late, we were few in number, one of our new members built early, and NLoN took advantage of that situation. They hit us when we were weak, and unable to put up a decent counter attack.
After being attacked right out of the gate, our member never fought back, lost interest and went inactive. But that wasn't enough. Raiding I can understand. But sending in econ ops on a raid target that's not fighting back is just asinine.
Now, none of this surprises me. We've been doing this dance with NLoN since WD came into this world. They raid us, we push back - rinse and repeat. Unfortunately, it took us awhile to gain our footing this round, but here we are.
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Hey all,
In the past war we got to see all of the major alliances burn some pixels down. During that time, the 8 of us made a Discord channel to coordinate our attacks, and I certainly had fun meeting new people, and catching up with old friends. Instead of deleting the channel, I've decided to turn it into a TE channel - where everybody is welcome. Here's the link to those who are interested: https://discord.gg/w2fbaJX
I hope to see you there!
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That was a great round for me. I had a blast and warred a ton. It was awesome
Like I'd pass up an opportunity to post that link braggin' on my war stats for that round.
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On 7/12/2017 at 7:39 PM, LordSunday said:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dGmxtLu3KMOzW3ERC8sdgmkZBPilk9_ICW2TqZPa7Vg/edit?usp=sharing
For your eyes only Samwise
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Fyi2S4nYZzgI1QBH8Du0NEFSlrPXy-jWXds4QUqdwTg/edit?usp=sharing
D1 put up some yuge damage numbers this war, dealing almost 1/3 of the total damages all by themselves, and their members averaging 17k NS damage dealt per nation. DCS also did fantastic, coming in 2nd for avg. damage dealt per nation. Pound for pound, some impressive fighters over there as well.
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7 hours ago, wasso said:
If you like numbers, we have something to show.
What you see is D1s offensive wars, targets.
Day 0- Day 4.
I don't even know what I'm looking at here. Whatever it is, I think I'm insulted because I was left off it. How very rude of you.
1 hour ago, LordSunday said:You should see our war data sheets
Ooh la la. If you show me yours, I'll show you mine...
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But seriously, welcome
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5 hours ago, StevieG said:
If anyone can WD can I know youve started very very late, but if you had not, you might also be right up there. You guys were fun to fight, even if it used to get a bit heated
No love though?
I was once told, if you love something, set it free, and if it comes back to you, it's yours. Stop looking at me with those big effing cute saucer eyes of yours. ;_;
1 hour ago, KingBilly1 said:It's been a good 15 rounds or so since I last fought you samwise, I'm expecting big things here
My WRC is loaded up with tech and love, here's hoping the nukes fire straight
I'm afraid I may disappoint you. Exhibit A:
To: Ragnar From: Samwise Date: 7/9/2017 11:37:56 PM
Subject: RE: UN/D1 WarMessage: I'm confused. I am going to declare war at 11:57. Does that work for you or do you want me to declare prior to 11:55?----------
To: Ragnar From: Samwise Date: 7/9/2017 11:40:18 PM
Subject: RE: UN/D1 War
Message: I'm going to try to push it to 11:58, and see if these old lady hands are still lightning fast. Haha----------To: Ragnar From: Samwise Date: 7/9/2017 11:49:08 PM
Subject: RE: UN/D1 War
Message: I better do 11:57 :v----------Then I only got in 14/18 attacks in pre-update. Oh well, it's not like 4 AA's I missed were going to save me from your 1.5k tech nukes. RIP me. -
15 hours ago, WileyXero said:
What I would give to be attacked by someone my nation strength. Nice to see no one in this game has a pair. Dear lord, attack people your NS. Stop with all the damn downdeclares. Game filled with cowards. I get attacked by the #7 and number #9 meanwhile here I am at #58. Seems legit. lol bunch a pussies.
I don't mean any disrespect, but consider that while UN/D1 had some heavy hitters at the very top, we still very much have the numbers on our side, and have (had?) the ability to swarm them and with proper coordination, overwhelm them. All 3 of my targets are updeclares not because I'm brave or stupid, but because I found people who will coordinate their attacks with mine. Cherry picking targets lower than you without any rhyme or reason other than you can easily overwhelm them doesn't help anybody except you, and can hinder those actually trying to coordinate.
But even so, in a statistically even fight, there will be discrepancies in NS between individual nations. It's just not possible for all the numbers to magically align, and allow for the same NS ranges every time - especially with navies largely inflating NS. And more often than not, you have someone drawing up target lists, so calling out all of D1 and UN when it's likely only a handful of guys were the ones in charge of target assignments, is a bit unfair to the general population of people just following orders.
15 hours ago, wasso said:^This was freaking hilarious.
4 hours ago, StevieG said:last I looked together we had about 30 of the top 60 nations in game. still we probably have the advantage here as we can coordinate while u all scramble to try and counter/coordinate.
The struggle is real. lol
Strongest Alliance award
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I think after two of TPC's made an alliance to win the award, admin made it where you had to have 10 members. 10 is the minimum requirement for the strongest alliance award currently.