FreedomvilleAT

woman I really just need to put it in my name next round...honestly..

Right, but we'll all know the real winners...if your alliance can be the one ranked before you, you are the winner. Also, MI and "her" allies are not stronger than those in judgment. You guys are quite out numbered whether by a large sum or not.

I never said you were deciding who wins, did I? I'm sorry maybe you need to bold where I said "seixas" decides the game. That page is full of fail. NAAW could attack..say, TUF right now and win by a long shot. All our stats are larger than yours except nation # and score. We could demolish all of you...just because we're "7th" on the page doesn't mean we can't kick your $@!. It just means they factor in nation # instead of what really counts. You have 5 more nations and 10.64 > 10.18. That does not mean you're a better alliance yet you are ranked ahead of us. Our strength is 184,461 and yours is 131,319. Also: Our tech, infra and avg is all higher. We have less anarchies.

Wow people. Wow. Completely pointless. YoUs dOn'T hAs ThE pOwEr To DeCiDe. Really? I mean, really? This actually is quite sad.

Do you not understand how to read? I feel like you just are completely illiterate. The alliance that wins will win by ALLIANCE STRENGTH. Not the # of nations within an alliance. "Display all alliances" does not determine the winner, its just the list of alliances by nation count. It's not like it tells you who wins. God. It's pointless to reply to you. Really, you can't hold a debate at all.

No. No one actually will go by the display all alliances page to determine who wins. The person with the largest stats all around excluding the nation # will win. It's not like they announce winners on this game, it's whoever is the strongest by the reset. I have a topic of top 10 and all through this round you will see alliances change in ranks. By the end we will know the true winners. Also, we know of members that are already leaving Murder Inc. On the NAAW forums, we have people registering with their previous alliance as "Murder Inc." You can't tell how many members they will have by the end of the round so let's wait and see.

LOL you think you're good, don't you? On the ACTUAL scoreboard [where not only # of nations count] you are #6 in the top 10. Your alliance's NS is 131,319 while NAAW is around 184,461. We're in the top 3 alliances in this game therefore, don't remind hisk about the scoreboard.

Wow. If I destroy an alliance's NS then they are no longer a threat whether or not they have 300+ nations. Yes, they could easily reroll and build up but that's what everyone is going to do when the war is over. "Numbers" do mean a lot but the number of nations in your alliance only count if the nations are strong. You could have a 90 nation alliance and all of them could be under 1k in NS. Yes, they have a lot of members but if the nations are weak...then there is no threat. Size means nothing. A 50 nation alliance with nations 1k+ could easily take them down despite their size.

Sorry for double post but stats have now been updated.

It was a typo and i can't change titles. deal with it

Bandwagoners =/= planned out coalition

Well yes, I'd be thinking the same if I were you.

UW might have wanted to spy but that does not mean judgment knew/allowed it.

Yes because they were very strong from the beginning. MI has gone down a lot in strength from where they were before. The only reason they're "almost twice then the next highest" is because they were already so much larger than MHA from the beginning. You guys think that judgment is some magical coalition that can poof away pixels. It takes time.

Experienced? Um, you're talking to a total veteran. I've been playing CN since early 2006. I played in the second most significant alliance in CN:S history. If anyone needs to school me, it won't be you. You don't need to "inform" me about anything but yes it will take them out of top spot. No one cares how many nations you have unless you are STRONG. I have a "top 10" thread anyway, that most of us will keep up to date. They may be #1 for a while because of their size but size means nothing.

1st graders? Yeah. 1st graders can really form coalitions. I'm thinking...the real 1st graders are the alliances that cry about lost treaties/being attacked and then go troll around about how "JuDgMeNt SuXoRz" when they have no idea what the stats are. People fail to realize, no strong alliance can fall this quick anyway. Ready to lose some money?

Check that again in a day or two.

LOL spais. So what if you have spies? Tons of alliances do. Yes, it's dishonorable and weak but it's nothing to publicly post about. If you're a strong alliance and you play your cards right, they would only get a controlled amount of information anyway. If you're putting all your secrets on a public chat room and a forum where anyone could easily pretend to be MI, then you probably need to rethink your strategy. It's very easy to get a very private channel on IRC and only let true gov and leaders in to discuss the most important issues. In NAAC, we barely told the members anything. We let them read the CN forums, gave them targets and fire teams and that was all. We rarely discussed private matters to anyone outside gov. It pays off.

The war has just started first of all. Second of all, this thread is not for trolling from MI and allies or judgment. It's simply a stats thread to keep us all up to date since the "display all alliances" page is just ranked on nation count. Please, no one post unless you have something worth reading.

Top 10 Alliances [title error] 1) Mostly Harmful Alliance 2) National Alliance of Arctic Warlordz 3) Murder Inc. 4) Global Democratic Alliance 5) AZTEC 6) The Unrighteous Fist 7) Crimson Empire 8) Orange Juice 9) United White 10) Roman Empire Strengths and Scores for top 3. 1) 287,639 - 16.98 (+) 2) 213,131 - 10.65 (+) 3) 210,678 - 26.71 (-)

Or that it is open to cancellation but has no time frame.

NAAW is not involved in the war. Let this be known, please.

Engraved in pure ice: Article I: Mutual Defense GDA and NAAW will defend the other party while engaged in battle against a third party. GDA and NAAW will not fight each other as long as the treaty stands. Article II: Aggression NAAW and GDA have the open option of coordinating offensive attacks against a third party together. Article III: Cancellation Should either alliance feel the need to withdraw from this agreement, they will notify the other party 48 hours in advance. Once one alliance is notified, the treaty will be invalid after the 48 hours passes. /s/ for NAAW FreedomvilleAT, Council. HisK, Council Bob, Council /s/ for GDA WartotheDeath, Minister of Talking Sippyjuice, Minister of everything Internal Static, Minister of blowing stuff up EDIT: NAAW will be staying out of the coalition even though we have allies in the coalition

Judgment is not this "vox" you speak of. There is no Vox in TE. I believe there is no NPO either. OOC: Seriously guys, this is not standard so don't mention alliances from different games. Also, Judgment is attacking MI and it's allies. They are not black based nor libertarian. If they were libertarian, there would have to be some sort of authoritarian in this game for them to object and there isn't. Judgment is a coalition bent on taking down the current super power in order to shake things up in the game. It's not an alliance or something that will last longer than the war.

Do you not understand what I'm saying? I'm saying AFTER the war, IDIOT merged into MI..giving them a boost in nations. That's why they have so many now. Uh, no. AirMe left IDIOT so all the other members left in the alliance merged into MI because they knew they wouldn't last long. They were not strong enough or else they would have stood alone and kept a treaty with MI instead of merging.