Bob

I can provide his life story in ODN and GPA if that helps But nah, he spent a while in GPA from what I remember to answer your question.

Because you would not have accepted it yesterday. Them offer terms to you? What an outrage! Also Blacky, I love you.

Fraternite was ODN and GPA before GOONS (although he was from SA)

Battle reports timed after just means that the peace offer hasn't made it down yet. Its if they didn't offer peace when they read it that would be the problem. Regardless, its a he said she said, with Blackwater have the most tangible of evidence, so I am inclined to believe them.

And yet you show no proof to support your side. Funny how I support the side with the proof..

I suggest you actually read all of the topics. There is a good amount you could learn about the nature of screenshots over the written word. As the saying goes, a picture is with a thousand words, and you have a grand total of zero proof, while Blackwater has at least two screenshots. I don't see how I can describe this any better, because I watched it unfold. This has been a problem in NAAW for the entirety of its existence and your mistaken belief that people would tolerate it has led to this situation. I know that in part, this is the reason I left NAAW a few weeks back, because we were doing raids without any government approval, directly against orders given by the government on the forums.

I read the threads. Nice try avoiding the point though. Blackwater is completely and fully in the right and your attempts to twist without any proof of your side are funny, at best.

NAAC didn't manipulate anyone. We simply didn't do anything that you liked. But go ahead, call us manipulators. NAAC died round one with the departure of Arctic anyways :/

I didn't say that they were the same, however you should have respect for those who came before you. And my bio explains the response perfectly, EXCEPT I raid alliances that are less than 10 members typically that are already being raided heavily. I also haven't had a raid in a long time, basically since I raided inactives. The only allied people I have raided or people that have an existing policy in place, if they attacked back I would not have asked my alliance to defend me, because guess what? I screwed up. NAAW played a risky game, and they got burned for it, and then complained when they got burned.

That's what happens when you nuke your leaders and attempt to start a coup.

No...MI policy was raid everyone, and then attack the alliance if they attack back.

haha its fine. Its a valid CB, so I like it

I'm fine with the ideas, but please, PLEASE don't post like that ever again. Regular font will do just fine, you don't need the extra little kick that you are giving it. Also lol Pork Shrimp thinking pentagons are good

Eh NAAC was always loose with sanctions, just coming back to bite them in the bum.

You never know where oats is.

We lost it two days ago

I like you. You at least argue clearly and effectively. Also metal has said what I would typically say.

A) You have problems with people who are rude? Look in a mirror. B.) I do have problems when you raid that large of an alliance. In case you didn't realize this buddy, I was a Council member of NAAW until a week ago when I resigned, in part because they raid whoever they feel like raiding. When I start to raid whoever I feel like raiding, then sure, I deserve to be attacked. You should know when you raid someone aligned you risk a counter attack and not BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW about how those meanies! attacked you back. Raiding an established alliance like Blackwater is terrible form. C) You have tried to get a peaceful ending while supporting invalid ideals, yes. D) I have been reading the posts, I just only cared to comment on yours because its been irritating me. Also, you really show your friendship in this thread so well. E) Then why do you act in this way, if you hate it so much? F) I'm on blue, so I don't think you will be sanctioning me any time soon. And its not cool to be sanctioned, just like its not cool to be nuked or attacked. Oh wait, nuking people AND attacking people is an accepted part of TE just like sanctioning is. G) I have respect for those who deserve it, and after watching you post, I don't have it for you.

Celtic's back. He's chilling in GR.

I'm sorry, but what the heck is your problem? Blackwater did nothing to deserve this, and you come in here barely comprehensible and complaining about everything they do. Also, on topic, speaking as the starter of sanction warfare (at least on blue) for two rounds, I don't quite see your problem with it, as sanction warfare has existed since the origins of Tournament Edition. Heck, NAAC at the end of both last rounds sanctioned people left and right, I sanctioned most of the top 10 on blue not in NAAC or WAPA, and no one got mad or called our actions unfair (myself and cyan did this). Its a fair ingame tactic, just like using nukes are.

Going to have to agree with this. NAAW gone Order?

GR is down to 15.20 as of yesterday

Going to have to agree with this. Only need ~30 members more

Not sure if Zoli was clear on what he meant, but he meant that they got wrecked in a war and have rebuilt quite well since so do they really deserve it for the 8? months of rebuilding they have done a dang good job on, since the war occured in Feb?