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Posts posted by Auctor
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It's been three days and your mistakes have been more than evident throughout that time period.
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The longer you delay arranging a white peace in a war you clearly are the aggressors in and have committed unjust actions to provoke, the less appetite there is going to be for peace at all.
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You Socialists enjoy creating narratives out of whole cloth but this idea that others are supposed to read your imagination to get them is particularly cute.
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It's incorrect to say WAPA ever had a desire to pay reps for the grevious sin of defending themselves against raiders. Try again.
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That's all you're getting. -
Apparently defending a significantly smaller alliance being abused by a larger alliance which is also threatening that significantly smaller alliance with all the might of every alliance Noctis spoken to in the last week and a half is now "bullying". In other news, Noctis thinks taking a bucket of water out of the ocean might cause sea levels to fall and taking a coin out of a wishing well will destroy all the hopes and dreams of all the little girls and boys.
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You can't put a genie back in a bottle and for an "ally" to outright lie to my face is really only funny when they're playing sexy sexy games with me. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
If you truly wished for a long war, the honorable thing to have done would have been to continue fighting the war. Making an extortionate rep demand as a fig leaf is disgusting. Doing so as a result of defending against "a raid", which you claim to be against, is disgraceful. Pretending alliances are supposed to tell the difference between being repeat raided and being attacked and that it's their responsibility to gain the approval of their attackers to defend themselves is such silly cry bully logic that you shouldn't be terribly surprised that any respect for you that may have existed is now gone.
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You asked me directly to assist you in attacking them. That's a request for intervention. You certainly weren't asking me to hold your towel.
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1 minute ago, Noctis Lucis Caelum said:
Earlier in the war before you bandwagoned in I offered peace.
You requested that I intervene. I did so.
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You just claimed to have had him presented with a rep demand with the intent of having it refused. You don't get to pretend you were the one seeking peace all along.
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There's a precedent for hitting an alliance without any warning for something they did three years ago. Hitting only the raider one week after a raid concludes with no contact made by the aggressor alliance isn't even that interesting in terms of precedent in this world.
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False, try again.
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So now your ally is supposedly blackmailing WAPA on your behalf and you magically avoid responsibility for your actions yet again. Just like this supposed no raiding rule right after attacking WAPA and failing to do anything diplomatically to resolve it. It's always everyone else's fault and you're just a poor little victim of circumstance.
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So now WAPA must pay $500,000,000 and 5000 tech or else.
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Careful now @The Chief, he might threaten to hold his breath if I don't swear to jack you for reps immediately.
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So a liar. Thanks for playing.
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1 minute ago, Noctis Lucis Caelum said:
Due to the nature of our alliance with Umbrella, we tend to check with Umbrella on how to respond in order to make sure it doesn't negatively impact relations. Just like we did before we had someone counter the nation who initially attacked and before FTW attacked. Both were approved by Umbrella.
This is different than asking Umbrella to hit WAPA, which you also did. In doing so, you triggered an investigation of your cause and I regrettably found reason to doubt your claim. Upon further investigation, I found it to be fraudulent and moved to seize your assets.
Nothing bores me more than cry bullies. If you just wish for a long war, say that. No one has a problem with using a few billion on a throw down. Attempting to get reps either makes you 1) a deceitful hack for not saying you just want a long war to us or your allies or 2) a pathetic cry bully weasel attempting to use other people's NS to get you other people's stuff. Feel free to choose 1 or 2 and your claim can be additionally processed.
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Again, WAPA only received help after you asked others for it. I have a theory you actually asked us to help WAPA because WAPA received assistance after you requested it.
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1 minute ago, Noctis Lucis Caelum said:
It was decided it was bad FA policy, I don't have a strong opinion on whether its right or wrong.
Isn't that convenient.
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It's a dumb theory. I had no expectations of a short fight, but I certainly didn't expect you to have the timerity to attempt to extort reparations from an alliance that defended itself against attacks you claim to believe were wrongly committed. If PoSSE truly believes that raiding is wrong, what is it now doing to reimburse nations harmed by their past raiding practices?
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Umbrella's permission has nothing to do with WAPA's response. Umbrella are a strong alliance capable of many things but to pretend that Umbrella controls how WAPA chooses to defend themselves when presented with escalation is breathtakingly silly.
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WAPA's decisions are their own. They have my allegiance but this pretense that I tell them what to do is false.
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The person that begged for multiple alliances to intervene against WAPA before two nations did on WAPA's side has no right to complain about bandwagoning.
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Not entirely surprising to see you feebly attempt to skate out on responsibility for the consequences of PoSSE's actions, again.
WAPA announcement
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FTW calling others out for merely existing and providing little to no content is rich. However, if this is a truly principled stance, this dithering at the finish line when it's absolutely clear what should have been done as soon as you became aware of this would not be necessary.
Furthermore, you were made aware of the facts of this case before this thread even started and chose to involve yourself anyway. I'm very skeptical of your pretense here.