Liz Girard

Glad to see this It's always nice when maroon just gets that much more closely knit CRAP

That's a pretty sexy font. I don't think anyone can deny that. Congratulations on retirement.

[quote name='The Pansy' timestamp='1319223864' post='2830040'] Water is Wet? DT don't like you? am I close? [/quote] Its like you have common sense or something... [quote name='Jtkode' timestamp='1319226226' post='2830072'] See this is the deal, I don't understand how they all manage to coerce me into giving them these ops, maybe I just want special favors in return.... And if you think about it, they are men, and you aren't... and for people who don't know me that isn't be being anti-femonist, its for other reasons XD. Btw Liz, I didn't say you fought her or anything, god, stop the hate. Somehow I feel like you would have her kind of accent though, and I see little parts of you in her which makes me wish you still lived in RI... Cyberverse RI that is. P.S. I love you [/quote] ...I cannot tell a lie. And its feminist.

[quote name='Brehon' timestamp='1319216102' post='2829964'] Grats on your gov... while I am very surprised to Rot in there, whatever. The bit of ping pong is meh As always best to you Liz and CSN o/ [/quote] Thank you, thank you. You'll have to tell me sometime why everyone seems so shocked about Rot [quote name='The Pansy' timestamp='1319216669' post='2829969'] Person moves alliance to attain Gov position, millions shocked. [/quote] News at 11! [quote name='Jtkode' timestamp='1319220035' post='2829998'] Oh hey Liz..... I talked to Joelle today lol oh wait i mean i digress.... What i meant to say is:::: WTF where is gibs and why does he still have % in #ARES!!! [/quote] I hate you. And that's your problem not only does he have % but he has @!!! [quote name='Londo Mollari' timestamp='1319220262' post='2830000'] Eh I like Liz and CSN is ok. Congrats on having a new government and such. [/quote] Most unenthusiastic award goes to... LONDO! Thanks sweets.

[quote name='Devilyn Caster' timestamp='1319175752' post='2829785'] So in CSN gov't you can share deputies across departments? [/quote] Mhmm. We've got some very talented people. [quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1319189359' post='2829865'] Disappointing that you still refuse to acknowledge your rightful name and flag, OSC will rise one day. [/quote] Make me a better flag than the other flag, more effort [quote name='Garion' timestamp='1319190454' post='2829870'] Congratulations to our allies ^_^Now send CK back. [/quote] We like him though. He's giving away cars this week. [quote name='Dom Zak' timestamp='1319192116' post='2829875'] Congrats guys! GL [/quote] Why thank you Zak. Zeppoles all around [quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1319193286' post='2829876'] [img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif[/img] Why was I not included in the OP? [/quote] MY APOLOGIES MR. PRESIDENT! I'll be sure to give you a shout out next announcement. [quote name='welshgazza1992' timestamp='1319193344' post='2829877'] Good looking line up... congrats CSN! [/quote] Thank you [quote name='Thrash' timestamp='1319195123' post='2829879'] Congrats, guys! [/quote] Thanks Thrash [quote name='Farnsworth' timestamp='1319196977' post='2829882'] Oh, how antifeminist of you to say such a thing. I speak for [s]Hillary Clinton[/s] all lady wearers of pantsuits when I say, I am disappoint. [/quote] Death to [b][u]all[/u][/b] pantsuits.

[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1319166178' post='2829641'] one of those names is not what I expected. [/quote] I bet not [quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1319166209' post='2829642'] CSN announcements are best announcements. Congrats to the elected. [/quote] WHY THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT SIR. [quote name='Alex987' timestamp='1319166266' post='2829643'] Oh my, Torchwood is there, brb leaving SF.Grats to all those in gov! [/quote] Just because he's gov doesn't mean you can't still harass him.

[quote name='Wu Tang Clan' timestamp='1319165104' post='2829630'] Nice gov lineup. [/quote] Why thank you. They all take their beatings like men, so they're the best we've got

[center][img]http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/792/csnseal.png[/img] [size=4][color=maroon] And now an official announcement from the [b][u]Commonwealth of Sovereign Nations[/u][/b][/color][/size] We'd like to introduce our newest government line up as follows: [b] Machanidas as Minister of Foreign Affairs Torchwood as Minister of Interior Affairs (again!) Panhead369 as Director of Education Valdoroth as Director of Recruitment Rotavele as Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Crazyman93 as Deputy of Interior Affairs [/b] [img]http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i232/Torqameda/government_userbar.png[/img] [b][u]Executive Leaders[/u][/b] [b]Head of State[/b]: Liz [b]Deputy Head of State[/b]: SpacingOutMan [b][u]Ministers[/u][/b] [b]Minister of Defense[/b]: Fenrir [b]Deputies of Defense[/b]: Rotavele [b]Minister of Foreign Affairs[/b]: Machanidas [b]Deputies of Foreign Affairs[/b]: LennyBronx & Eaton [b]Minister of the Interior[/b]: Torchwood [b]Deputies of the Interior[/b]: KOwens06 & Crazyman93 [b][u]Directors[/u][/b] [b]Director of Trades[/b]: KOwens06 [b]Director of Raiding[/b]: Liz [b]Director of Education[/b]: Panhead369 [b]Director of Finance[/b]: JD252 [b]Director of Recruitment[/b]: Valdoroth [img]http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i232/Torqameda/contact_information_userbar.png[/img] Feel free to stop by and say hello to our new & old gov/members [b]IRC[/b]: #csn on irc.coldfront.net [b]Forums[/b]: [url=http://cncommonwealth.com/forum/index.php]Link[/url] [b]Cybernations Wiki[/b]: [url=http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Sovereign_Nations]Wiki[/url] [img]http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j245/Da5nake/CSNSealEND.png[/img][/center]

Congrats on your reelections and retirements! Boris I'll take that pepper steak now please.

Oh this is fantastic.

[quote name='Lord Boris' timestamp='1313466220' post='2781973'] Not going to lie. I figured Oink would have been the Director of Raiding, moreso than MoFA. [/quote] He was totally director of raiding at one point

I second this motion ^

[quote name='Wilhelm von Berlin' timestamp='1313439336' post='2781585'] Ewww CSN. [/quote] Ewww.... wait who are you? Special thanks to WC for our seal flag. Most appreciated man.

Gibs has retired.

[center][img]http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/792/csnseal.png[/img] CSN would like to welcome its newest government members, [b]Emperor Smith as our new Minister of Defense oinkoink12 as our new Minister of Foreign Affairs Requia as our new Director of Raiding JD252 as our new Director of Finance [/b] Come say hello in #CSN on coldfront [b][u]Executive Leaders[/u][/b] [b]Head of State[/b]: Liz [b]Deputy Head of State[/b]: SpacingOutMan [b][u]Ministers[/u][/b] [b]Minister of Defense[/b]: Emperor Smith [b]Deputies of Defense[/b]: KOwens06 & Clash [b]Minister of Foreign Affairs[/b]: Oinkoink12 [b]Deputies of Foreign Affairs[/b]: Severius & Machanidas [b]Minister of the Interior[/b]: Torchwood [b]Deputy of the Interior[/b]: Mixer [b][u]Directors[/u][/b] [b]Director of Trades[/b]: Mixer [b]Director of Raiding[/b]: Requia [b]Director of Education[/b]: KOwens06 [b]Director of Finance[/b]: JD252 [b]Director of Recruitment[/b]: Lirael Darkeyes [b]Director of Propaganda[/b]: EmperorSmith forums: cncommonwealth.com [img]http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j245/Da5nake/CSNSealEND.png[/img] [/center]

[quote name='Joe Stupid' timestamp='1312499682' post='2772144'] R&R: You've been the quieiest one. What do you think of Rok and how we left SF? CSN&GOD: Will you open up diplomatic talks with Rok again anytime soon? RIA: Hey. [/quote] I've invited Rampage back to our forums and the embassy to be reopened whenever you'd like.

[quote name='Azaghul' timestamp='1312491279' post='2772056'] So is it fair to say that you don't agree with Xiph's grudge against TOP? [/quote] I think if there were a way for Xiph and TOP to reach a consensus that would be best for all parties involved, especially with the way our allies and our own FA paths will eventually cross. Realistically is that going to happen? Not likely. [quote name='Zoomzoomzoom' timestamp='1312491468' post='2772059'] So was Rok always an issue in some capacity before Taut pulled away in the last war? I keep seeing posts saying you're more unified post-war, but I don't see how. From an outside perspective, Rok, despite holding 50 million treaties, always seemed in sync with SF. Especially when Xiph was unofficially protecting Polar. [/quote] I can really only speak for the Taut on times as that was when I became most active with bloc politics, so I'll have to defer that to someone whose been around longer. [quote name='Lord Boris' timestamp='1312491686' post='2772062'] General questions: 1. In terms of survival for SF, do you see vertical growth (simply building up your current membership bases), horizontal growth (actively recruiting new members to the existing AAs or adding another AA to the bloc entirely), or a certain blend of the two as being the most likely course with which you'll have success with? 2. What does SF think about the speculation that many of the smaller Maroon alliances appear to be displeased with SF and actions some of its members have taken in recent months? 3. If you could be in an important IRC discussion/meeting and tell one person simply to $#^@ off, who would it be and why? And because someone asked me to ask her some fun questions, these are primarily questions for Liz: 1. When's the next scheduled "Hey, let's annoy Deja" session? 2. What has been the most amusing part of being at the top of the ladder in CSN? [/quote] 1. We've been working a lot on ourselves, getting that foundational ground set a bit better. 2. I think our maroon friends have worked out their ways of dealing with our decisions. TTK I think especially has found themselves in a good place. Between allies and friends now. 3. Well, having already done that once. I don't think there's any one particular person I'd care to do that with again. It's worth it to just avoid the situation entirely, that way you avoid the cesspool. 1. Anytime you want! Take him... far... far.. away. 2. Probably dealing with the guys who didn't want to be led by a younger female There's quite a few, who just on that sole reason alone like to pick arguments just for the sake of argument. The most rewarding part though is watching our newer members climb their way up the ladder. Torchwood is our MoIA and he was just a wee little noob months ago and he's present day minister and doing a damn fine job of it. Though we tease him to hell haha. Emperor Smith is another who has just been fantastic. Watched him go from deputy to as of a few days ago, our Minister of Defense. So that's really the best part of the job for me. I like when people are active and things begin to click about how things work and it just makes sense.

[quote name='Stewie' timestamp='1312486434' post='2771986'] SF, I apologise for my fellow NGers in your thread. This should not be a place for us to air our dirty linen. We have differences between our members, but we should not be letting this enter into this thread. My questions 1. How has SF fared in the past several months since ROK left the bloc, do you find yourselves more united or are their cracks in the longstanding relationships? 2. If you could pick one leader from the entire history of BOB to lead SF as a coalition leader, who would you choose? 3. What are your opinions of the current Treaty Web? Have there been any treaties which SF as a whole have stood back and questioned? 4. Chicken or Beef? 5. Wine or Beer? 6. Are you for or against mergers of many micros to form larger alliances? 7. Pasta or Pizza? 8. McDonalds or KFC? 9. What is your opinion of the ultimate Triumverate for an alliance? 10. Do you agree that many people hold onto ancient history too much? [/quote] 1. I'd say a lot more united. As much as I would have liked RoK to stay and for things to work out, it's been for the best in both our cases. RoK has moved onto an FA path they are comfortable with and we have maintained our synergy. 2. I honestly have NO idea. 3. It's very messy. Sure have been some treaties. CSN - GOONS for instance. But SF has come to terms with it and I think Sardonic and JT did a fine job of distinguishing themselves from old GOONS. 4. Steak. 5. Merlot 6. If two or more communities can come together to make things tighter and more efficient, by all means. 7. Pasta 8. Neither. 9. I'm not sure what you mean, is this a particular case? Or in general? 10. Sure do. It's nice to get rid of old grudges. Recently, we've had a lot of those chats. Over the years, most alliances change governments and even leadership, sometimes its good to put an old grudge to rest and move on to the flavor of the week center of esteemed hatred. But it's far too convenient to hold onto old grudges for some. For others, they just won't let it go because it's how they operate, they need that eye for an eye.

[quote name='ShouAS' timestamp='1312489122' post='2772030'] If you could steal one exTOOL member you do not already have, who would it be? (Not Mia cause everyone always says her) [/quote] dodoei (hopefully i spelt that correctly ). Kid's a friggin beast.

[quote name='ShouAS' timestamp='1312488426' post='2772017'] Commando or boyshorts then? Also how did you feel about TOOL disbanding since you are an exmember. [/quote] I think it should have happened when GK and the rest wanted it to happen. I was sad to see it live on in the shell it became. But I'm glad its finally put to rest. I've got a TOOL or two in my alliance and its nice to have them around Got a lot floating around in IRON and TPF as well. One of the best communities I've had the pleasure of being a part of in its day. Edit: I don't like my options was a polite way of just letting that question go, sorry I'm sure there's others who would be happy to oblige though!

[quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1312484404' post='2771956'] Didn't figure you for a menthol smoker, but whatever floats your canoe. I find this attempt at public fence mending with the world community amusing in some respects. GOD/RnR/CSN/RIA are what they are and that is the same as it was prior to the Karma War. If people have made up their minds about SF and that opinion is negative, then I don't see how this is going to change anything, other than identifying points where "damage control" attempts could be made. It's too late for that. [/quote] Well, I can't really say that I'm the same as prior to the karma war as I was in TOOL back then and CSN wasn't even a glimmer in my eye then. But that's not really the point of this Q&A. I like clearing the air, I like hearing what people have to say good or bad. [quote name='ShouAS' timestamp='1312484624' post='2771959'] CSN: How do you feel about NG attempting to hijack what was other wise a pleasant and cordial topic, but opening a very abrasive attack towards you All: Boxer, briefs or thongs? [/quote] It's expected. I dont like my options

[quote name='WarriorConcept' timestamp='1312461086' post='2771737'] To CSN: How do you feel about your relationship with GOONS? Do you think they would drop you to follow through with NG's apparent obsession with members of SF? [/quote] I like our relationship with GOONS. It's honest and I have never had to sugar coat things to them. It is what it is all day, everyday. Doubtful. [quote name='Joe Stupid' timestamp='1312465748' post='2771767'] On a scale of 1/10, what do you think of Rok now? [/quote] I don't talk to them, so I don't particularly have an opinion. [quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1312466790' post='2771780'] Will you be smoking a Marlboro, Camel, or a Kool Filter King at your firing squad? I already figure you for no blindfold.... [/quote] Camel Menthol actually. [quote name='sir pwnage' timestamp='1312467957' post='2771788'] Here's what you do: Wait for war to break out, then make a joint declaration of neutrality with C&G. Then, the two of you (PB and C&G) have a fun, non-nuclear war to stave off boredom, keep from getting rusty, make new friends, and keep your respective casualty counts up. Thinking of calling dibs? Now, on to my questions: Why haven't R&R answered any questions? Pick one bloc to marry, one to kill, and one to... well you know. Would a CSN-GOD merger be possible? [/quote] 1. Ego runs off a different time zone than the rest of us/simms is away iirc 2. Marry - PB for allied reasons Kill - MJ easily enough you know... i'll get back to you on that one 3. No. Xiph and I would kill each other. [quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1312472421' post='2771820'] @ CSN. Is it true that CSN has the policy that states no outside alliance is allowed to techdeal with CSN techsellers? [/quote] Sure is. [quote name='Hiro Nakara' timestamp='1312474529' post='2771836'] Do they use Coldfront to chat to us? Because when I'm on syn I have never once seen a CSN dude chatting in the public room. Also your questions are pretty good, I attempted to ask similar questions in their embassy, but not as articulate as you [/quote] I'm on coldfront and syn. We also share 4 or 5 government channels together at least. I'm in the process of moving and getting things settled, but i'm generally always in your public channel, you should say hello sometime. We also have an embassy on CSN forums you're more than welcome to come say hello at and maybe meet some of our membership. [quote name='dalstrs' timestamp='1312478549' post='2771885'] Everyone in gov knows that Sard has a permanent query open with Liz where they constantly cyber with each other. [/quote] The benefits of an MDoAP partner, they never cease to amaze me. You should see what Delta, Ego and Xiph do.

[quote name='erikz' timestamp='1312444777' post='2771673'] To all leaders: what are your thoughs on NG? Just be frank and open about it. Also, where do you see PB going? There's a lot of speculations about PB as a unified entity and I'm wondering what you guys think about it. [/quote] My only interaction with NG has been through one of your Tri's. And it was so he could complain about tech deals, it was annoying and obnoxious... over 6 tech deals... it was top 10 most stupid conversations I've ever had to endure. But I'm going to chalk it up to an off day. NG as a whole? Don't know you as your respectively whole selves now, could you be different? Sure. Are you? Unlikely. I'm going to go with not a fan, though Mixer seems pretty awesome. PB? Couldn't tell you. From the outside, seems pretty unified based on last war. Present day? Seems like FA is all over the place, but a united core nevertheless. Of course, we all know whose getting pressure on their treaties and who isn't lately.

[quote name='Rudolph' timestamp='1312440547' post='2771617'] I know you guys will probably get some fairly typical questions, so I'll try to avoid asking the same. For Liz: What are your thoughts surrounding the whole DT/CSN fiasco and would you perhaps do or say differently when looking back? and lastly, how does it feel having a pet as your MoFA? General: What is SF's common perception of NPO as an alliance these days? What is SF's general opinion on the current political landscape? [/quote] Surrounding the DT/CSN fiasco, I wish I'd been in more of a position of power and decision making then. Goose, lord love him, was going through an inactive phase at the time and it made decision making brutal. I'd have like there to have been communication between the two alliances, I think that would have solved a lot of issues early on. We always came to the table with a unified decision, it was hard to make compromises and discussion with DT though, Bud was very helpful in that sense and when he mediated for DT, things came together quite swimmingly. Gibs is the best, and not a pet. He probably gives me the hardest times when I'm making judgement calls and i'm always threatening to fire him NPO, honestly, I'm personally a fan. They've got their $@#^ together and they're out there talking to people. Brehon's a good guy. Mary - obligatory Roll Tide, Red is always fun. We've had good, positive relations with them at CSN and I value what they bring to the table. It's a new face with some of the old strong ideals. General opinion on the current political landscape.... hmmm, well. It seems like a power grab lately. It's of course an outsiders perspective but I know that when we make treaties, we make them because we know that alliance and its leadership inside and out, not because we're looking for numbers and meatshields.

[quote name='Gibsonator21' timestamp='1311880333' post='2766323'] Way... way too much... [/quote] Thanks for doing stats gibs, look at you being all useful and ish. I'm so proud