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The Imperium hereby announces itself a sovereign nation encompassing the territory of the middle east. Its capital New Zurich (The Imperial Center) is located in former Baghdad. More announcements are forthcoming.
OOC: The Wiki is up to date and applicable minus a few errors. Also I am importing my Agenda Eleven RP into this RP as well, any conflicts in terms of game rules can be worked out; though I would like the general concept of the RP to be present.
Government:
Michael Devereaux
Imperial Regent
Oligarch
Administrator of Province One
Vladimir Kaine
Minister of Defense
Oligarch
Administrator of Province Two
James Mathus
Minister of the Interior
Oligarch
Administrator of Province Three
Thomas Alexander
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Oligarch
Administrator of Province Four
Edward Dionysus
Minister of Finance
Oligarch
Administrator of Province Five
Devin Avers
Minister of Internal Security
Oligarch
Administrator of Province Six
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IC: From the governmental district of new Zurich, the regent, Michael Devereaux fulfilling the necessary legal requirements signed off on the nuclear strike of rebel army’s south western territories, traditionally known as Egypt and Israel. He also placed the newly created SDI systems on alert, as well as all internal defensive systems. Furthermore he authorized the deployment of 200k soldiers along with 5000 tanks to North Gibraltor to aid in the operations there.
Imperium nuclear ordinance, and electro magnetic pulse warheads are now inbound for Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Cairo, Alexandria, and Suez (4 nukes each). They will be arriving shortly.
OOC: God moding fixed.
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I do not and will not recognize other worlds other than CNRP. Until a map of another RP world is stickied, then I will continue to do so.
Response to this attitude in general. It doesn't matter if you recognize it or not as your own actions in CNRP will not be recognized by those playing in the separate worlds, and they themselves will not be taking action that effects you in alternative worlds. Unless you intend to argue with them OOC, and place the special tags in your threads to separate them from the default RP then you will be excluded.
No again. There are just as many people that need moderating and more threads.Actually it divides up the work load and diverts some of the responsibility from the existing GM's to new GM's who manage the new worlds. That means less to rule on, and less to keep track of if people transfer entirely over to one or the other. However, even if that isn't the case there will likely be a decrease in activity in both from that one individual as they would have to keep up with two games rather than just one.
3. As far as I can tell the only differences are the formulas and starting areas. Is there anything I'm missing?That's actually not true, for example CNRP R has a few structural variations. For one GM's are not allowed to rule on matters that effect themselves, or their close Allys. This is meant to prevent possible conflict of interest. Furthermore it requires a more detailed RP, as well as places limits on some of the RP's people do. The game will also develop differently as it is run by different people with different views on how the game ought to function. New GM's means new precedents defining the game, and an overall different game play.
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OOC: Having neglected this RP for awhile I think its time to pick it back up with a large update. Moreover given the amount of time I think its reasonable to assume some progress.
TL;DR: No real action has been taken in this thread, I am just giving a general update on the agenda eleven RP; this specifies some of the programs, and their progress. I will be referencing stuff from this and this will be justifying some of my RPs in the future. Though you don’t really have to read it as it is quite long.
*All of this is still Classified*
IC: It has been a year since the Minister of Defense Kaine had initially inspected the agenda eleven facilities. Since then he had been receiving daily memos hinting at substantial progress being made in his name; though none of which truly specified the nature of these advancements as the memos passed through many hands before reaching his desk. Today he would be making his second tour of the facility. After having cleared the insane measures of security which both concealed the existence of the facility, as well as served to keep any level of intruder from penetrating its inner sanctum he found himself standing in front of a rather cliché researcher, the apparent director of the facility. “Good morning sir, I am Director Thomas Ambrose; I trust you have already met our director of security, Mr. Patterson.” He said gesturing to a uniformed official with an athletic build.
“Ah Yes I have; pleased to see both of you though.” Looking back Ambrose, “From the tone of your memos I developed the impression that you all have been rather successful in fulfilling the general task assigned to you. Would you like to show me what you all have been up to?”
“Yes certainly.” Turning he led the two of them down the long concrete tunnel that apparently led from the main freight elevator to the primary lab. The tunnel itself was large enough to house a four lane free way, every hundred feet there was a trapezoidal frame made out of I like steel bars. From the ceiling hung horizontally long cages which shielded fluorescent tubes used to illuminate the facility. Moving deeper into the facility they came to a large intersection; Kaine noticed that the end of each of those tunnels was rounded off suggesting that a large square or O like tunnel in circled the inner laboratory complex presumably to provide easy maintenance and access in case of an accident in the central lines of transit. The main lab was now visible through what appeared to be a large glass wall. Stopping just outside, the group peered in. “This is the main facility, it is subdivided into smaller labs the less critical work is done here. Beneath it is a series of progressively smaller facilities the furthest down of which holds the most critical, and dangerous of our work.”
“Intriguing can we enter?” Kaine asked.
“No, it is an absolutely clean environment, it takes a few hours to decontaminate. This also isn’t the main entrance, this field here isn’t glass its light. One of our researchers here about six months ago discovered a way to in layman’s terms align the waves, and interlace them forming a cohesive bond and essentially a solid surface. The surface is literally impenetrable in so far as its generation points remain intact. After a bit of testing we began to apply it throughout the entire facility. Originally the main defensive structure was its thick steel walls, however since then we created a second layer of this steel leaving a hollow space between it and the outer wall. We worked the generators into cut out sections of the inner steel wall. Prior to this the order was a thick reinforced concrete wall, steel, and more concrete, now its concrete, steel, the field, steel, and another layer of concrete. The field also shields against all forms of energy making us invulnerable to radiation and other possible energy threats.
“Wow, that is quite impressive. It must be quite energy taxing?”
“Yes, that’s really its main flaw. It requires a constant and abundant source of energy. Luckily in this setting its plugged directly into our own internal fusion cores but it wouldn’t be too useful on the battle field itself; at least not in this state. This also isn’t the outermost layer, this is just one of our internal ones being used as a gate. There was one surrounding the lift that brought you down here, as well as ones within the lift itself that disengage when someone requires passage.”
“Alright, so I gues while we are on the subject let’s talk security.” Kaine prompted. “You all have shown me how physically you all are impenetrable, what about cyber attacks?”
“Ah I believe that’s Mr. Patterson’s area of expertise.” Ambrose gestured to his counterpart.
“Follow me.” The three of them moved to a small side passage to the left of the visible field. It too had its own protective field, as well as a panel which disarmed it. Patterson flashed his security card and let it scan his thumb causing the water like field to evaporate. Beyond it was a narrow flight of stairs leading to another passage cut into the concrete. The group moved through several similar passages until they reached a smaller room sitting above the main lab. The room was circular, and appeared to be partially made out of concrete. Encircling it where windows would be there were similar fields though these were far smoother than the ones Kaine seen previously, theses gave off the same appearance as the large field that he had mistaken for glass earlier. A large circular segment of the floor was also filled by one of these fields giving an overhead view of the work floor below. “This is one of our security hubs. It is suspended by a variant of the field technology. It can take us to any level of the facility. However on the subject of security we can address that here.” Surrounding the clear section of the floor was a large raised ring of concrete which was occupied by keyboard terminals, and touch pads. Moving to one of these, he entered a series of commands. The once transparent window like fields now became opaque, and were filled with images that bore relevance to the subject of the facilities security. “So as you already know we are generally speaking very secure physically. However, if someone were to gain entry despite these measures, there is a large thousand man task force on standby within the facility. There are also numerous automated defense mechanism that can be utilized by our security center. As for cyber attacks we have two three real layers of defense. The first is the fact that this facility is very rarely online. However in the cases that it is its second layer would be the advanced fire wall and encryption systems that we have in place. The third and final layer would be the gauntlet of counter intelligence technicians in the security center who constantly monitor the internal network as well as its connection to the outside when it does go online. Most of our information exchange happens physically through file storage devices, these are all scanned vigorously, and again this also happens very rarely. So for the most part I would say we are safe there as well.”
“Very well I am satisfied with your progress on security measures as well as your break through in the light molding. Thomas I’d like to see some of your actual lab work.”
“Alright, lets see.” He typed in a few commands, and immediately Kaine felt a rapid decent through the facility. They abrupt halted and the outer fields became clear. “Each level is dedicated to a given project. The Scientists working in each level live and are housed within their given level, and work at their own leisure within a given time frame to see that the projects are completed. As such our morale is quite high, and things remain fairly productive. This is project theta one of our more ambitious projects. Its general focus is surveillance, the current subject of the project is what we call Program Osiris, or Osiris for short. We are presently developing the pieces of a network that will eventually be capable of monitoring much of the world. That satellite, he pointed will be equipped with some of the most powerful lenses, and will be capable of streaming live high resolution feeds. Those will be sitting in geo-centric orbit within view able range of every square inch of the globe. We are working in concert with our solar energy projects and will be cleverly hiding them in the satellites that will be produced for Solex. In essence they will be replacing the solar satellites that provide precious cheap energy for much of the world while also serving to gather vital intelligence for the nation. Additionally the satellites are equipped with laser microphones which are capable of reading vibrations in some surfaces; particularly glass, and metal. Finally these satellite packs will be capable of picking up all signal Intel within range. This can be decrypted using super computers, and prioritized by computers. Those devices there will be added to our submarines and commercial vessels, as well as planted physically to areas of the ocean floor controlled by us, international waters, and cooperative allies. This will be fed to the central hub and be able to provide us with a lot of vital information about fleet movements, as well as submersible movements throughout the world. That group there is developing a program that will be able to take this information and compare it to the high resolution video streams allowing us to track surface, and some sub-surface traffic. Those boxes being developed there will be added to our entire air force, and will serve as a visual and limited audio pack to reinforce the satellite array. Moreover those boxes will be deployed to strategic location around the Imperium. Finally all physical communications coming through Imperium systems will be monitor-able. In short anything that we can legally know we will know.”
“Impressive, when do you intend for this to be up and running?” Kaine asked.
“We expect six months perhaps a year. The major piece of it is the satellite array, which will be going up over the next six months as Solex does its satellite overhaul. The computer networking is largely in place, but that should be completed within that time frame as well.”
“Fair enough. What else do you have.” The researcher keyed a few more commands in.
“This is Project Alpha, the general subject is Bio Weapons. This is in the deepest level of the facility. Here scientists are working on genetic applications to retro-viruses both as medical tools, and biological agents. Its fairly straight forward. Anything completed will be housed and stored here until you all decide to actually put them into production. From the way you described it seemed like you didn’t want to really utilize them, you just wanted the option of having them ready for production?”
“Yes, the Regent just wants to make sure we have a full deck of cards.” Kaine replied.
“Of course. Anyway, there is one more program under this project. We are looking into low impact, high lethality chemical weapons. The point being, you deploy it, it kills everyone, and then it goes away rather quickly. This would make it very useable in the field and a useful tool for invasion. We have had some success with a few compounds, but nothing is ready for full mass production or field testing.”
“Sounds good, I believe I have seen enough for now. You all are doing a great job. If someone could get me a list of projects I could ask questions from there if needed.”
Thomas sent a request to a printer concealed within the ring of concrete. “Here you are.” He said handing the paper to the Minister. This was only a partial list, a few of the programs were for the Regent alone, but he didn’t let on to that.
Agenda Eleven Facility:Project Alpha: Non-Nuclear Bio-Weapons
1) Genetically Modified Retro-Viruses
i) Viral Development
ii) Dispersal
2) Low Impact High Fatality Chemical Weapons
i) Nerve Agent Development
ii) Dispersal
Project Beta: Nuclear Applications
1) Non-destructive Radiological Weapons
i) Neutron Bomb Development
ii) Artificial Radiation Sources
2) Pure Fusion Weapons
i) Development
3) Delivery Systems
i) Space delivery systems
ii) Ambrose Missile Delivery System
4) Electro Magnetic Pulse
i) Development
ii) Delivery
iii) Space Application
Project Delta: Energy Studies
1) Field Effect Studies
i) Generation
ii) Application
iii) Efficiency
2) Anti-Matter Studies
i) Production
ii) Research
3) Generation Methods
i) Fusion & compactment
ii) Solar & Space applications
Project Gamma: Gaussian Studies
1) Rail Guns & Gauss Cannons
i) Applications
ii) Development
Project Theta: Surveillance
1) Program Osiris
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Application
Nation Name: The Imperium
Nation Capital: Imperial Center
Government Type: Quasi Autocratic; Oligarchy
Areas wanted: Egypt; Iraq; Iran; Saudi Arabia; Yemen; Oman; UAE; Syria; Jordan; Isreal; Qatar, Kuwait, Cyprus. (EG the Middle East) (Checked with my own SoI it is sufficient).
Ethnicities: Caucasian
Link to nation: http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=104328
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IC: From the governmental district of new Zurich, the regent, Michael Devereaux fulfilling the necessary legal requirements signed off on the nuclear strike of rebel army’s south western territories, traditionally known as Egypt and Israel. He also placed the newly created SDI systems on alert, as well as all internal defensive systems. Furthermore he authorized the deployment of 200k soldiers along with 5000 tanks to North Gibraltor to aid in the operations there.
In Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Cairo, Alexandria, and Suez (4 nukes each) Imperium nuclear strikes occur causing mass devastation. All communications, major military facilities, and infrastructure are crippled. Large scale damage to the civilian populace is expected. Shortly after specialized EMP war heads are detonated above the cities permanently damaging all electronic resources.
OOC: Re-posted to legitimize Triyun. Everyone satisfied now?
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Nice flag guys; I like how your announcements are set up
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Congrats Polaris.
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Its great to finally make our friendship official
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Congrats green team.
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Welcome back GPA.
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This is going to be pretty
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Welcome to CN Guys.
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Congrats to INT and DF.
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Glad to see everything finally come together. Congrats guys.
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Yeah im going to have to agree with cour, what?
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Then I wonder why everyone is so fiercely protective of theirs?
Generally speaking they are not protective because the guides reveal some hidden insight, more so because they put a lot of effort into them. The point being they would rather not have them simply stolen by another group, its like an author writing a book then wanting it to be bought in a store rather than photocopied.
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I hate to interrupt the nonsensical frothing, but I'm curious where you can point me to a location where I made any definitive argument for the acceptability of inter-alliance recruitment. I have: 1) asked if it is unethical, 2) asked if yes to 1, why, 3) asked why there is a double-standard in treatment of those who recruit from other alliances, 4) proposed a situation and asked for thoughts on its acceptability, then presented an actual situation of the same nature. Meanwhile your eternal brothers' greatest gasbag has gone on at length with more survivalist dross that only proved my later point regarding TOP actively poaching members from Echelon. Since then it has been nothing but a fiesta of what I can only assume is Citadel "damage control" where they dodge the core matter and blab incessantly that anything anyone else says is ridiculous.
But I am not unsympathetic. It must be quite difficult to use your eyes given the volume of foam issuing from your mouth.
And what is your assessment of my own argumentation seeing as how you have ignored it; while instead vehemently attacking an individual for being offensive in at the very least an equally offensive manner?
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This is no joke, the IRON trash talkers have angered UTOPOS, he came to me during prayer and said that IRON must pay for their transgressions.
Im sorry, who are you?
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Sorry, everyone is too busy posting !@#$%^&* to derail the thread.
/me shrugs **** being posted kind of serves the same purpose.
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Agreeing with Vladimir this isn’t a question of ethics. The only thing we can really answer is whether or not poaching is in opposition to generally accepted norms within the social order. Such as an alliance must look after its own self interest, and prevent threats to itself. Or that one shouldn't engage in poaching as you do not wish to have your own members poached and so forth. Or even the very base assumption of looking to the interest of a new member in general.
To begin new members are inherently unpredictable as they are generally speaking unknowledgeable of the CN world, therefore the initial recruitment messages are actually rather influential and effectual as it is all the member has to go off of. Moreover most recruiting messages are rather similar, they all have the same base message, “we are a good group, good culture, start up aid, protection ect”. Therefore at this stage (bottom tier players) when poaching is really relevant; the player’s presumed freedom is really irrelevant as any decision they make is going to be arbitrary at best. I myself changed alliances twice in the first day of membership, and actually left that second alliance shortly after; proving even those of us who eventually make something of ourselves here ultimately are incompetent in terms of choosing our first alliance. Now I will concede that some alliances are just better than others and can provide a better quality service to the membership than others. Under different conditions, such as a world with an objective source of information, they may merit an additional shot at swaying an individual’s mind, though this better service cannot be objectively conveyed to through a CN private message nor can one really assess the accuracy of the recruitment message itself as the individual is lacking in connections that would be used to verify the promises made. So really even if poaching is permissible to some, as they merit the opportunity to sway the minds of people in “bad” alliances, the member doesn’t really know this unless they have an objective secondary source to verify the message (eg friends of theirs in that alliance), at which point we would be talking about a different matter entirely. So really what I am getting at with this is, allowing poaching destabilizes the bottom tier of CN. As members would be jumping from one alliance to the next at least for awhile ultimately delaying their ability to grow (by receiving aid from their alliance), and endangering themselves by making themselves targets for raiders. Moreover delaying integration into an alliance delays their social integration into CN which may actually give them the resources they need to become a competent decision maker. Essentially in so far as new members have no real fix on the game itself, their ability to choose an alliance is compromised anyway so really the best thing to do is simply enforce a rule of first come first serve on the unallied members and simply allow people to make the best of wherever they end up. Later on once the individual has become more knowledgeable they will no longer need a recruitment message to guide them if they do eventually go elsewhere, in which case the matter changes.
On a different note I think it could also be seen as simple courtesy, it’s a mutually beneficial practice to not poach another alliance’s membership so that they then do not do the same to you. There are plenty of new members out there, so there isn’t really a pressing need to recruit from the already allied stock. In general I don’t really see how anyone would find an anti-poaching position to be anything but sensible. Now as for vox being poached, or having people being swayed away from it, the mainstream point of view especially the view point for those who do what you mentioned is that vox is not an actual alliance, but rather a rogue AA that is used by different people for different reasons. Some use it simply to nuclear rogue, others are members of the organization itself which is either in a formal or informal state of war with many other alliances. In both cases any hypothetical sovereignty of vox itself would largely be viewed as freely breachable. Moreover considering the fact that rules like no poaching and no spying are mutual in nature, and based off of an assumed agreement to not engage in said activities; at the point where vox itself has violated these agreements, through spying, and poaching it has lost the right to then not be poached and spied on as well. In which case alliances engaging in said activates against vox while maintaining that they ought not be spied on or poached are not philosophically inconsistent as you implied they would be.
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We are inclined to take this matter very seriously. MK is advised to release the hippo, or we may start not liking you, and subsequently start wanting you dead.
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Congrats to Celt.
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Imperium Factbook
in Fantasy RP (IC)
Posted · Edited by iamthey
The Imperium Factbook
History & Government:
http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Imperium
Supreme Governing Body: The Oligarchy (Active only during specifically declared state; this can only occur if a majority of the oligarchy agree to do so.)
Primary Governing Body: The Directorate Committee (The Committee): The Oligarchy in its passive state. The oligarchy defers its authority to this form of itself.
The Triumvirate (Head of State; Government; acts as the collective autocrat during a passive Oligarchy.)
Triumvirs: Michael Devereaux (Appointed Permanent); Stephen Othran (Interim Oligarchy Appointment); Mathew Kaine (Interim Oligarchy Appointment)
Minster of Defense
Minster of the Interior
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Minister of Finance
Minister of Internal Security
Territory Divisions:
The Imperium (Homeland)
Province I: Michael Devereaux
Province II: Vladimir Kaine
Province III: James Mathus
Province IV: Thomas Alexander
Province V: Edward Dionysus
Province VI: Devin Avers
The Imperium (Viceroyalties)
Administrative Zone One (Turkey): Richard Cremeax
Administrative Zone Two (Norther Sumatra, Indonesia): Morgan Vars
Administrative Zone Three (Madagascar): Andrew Olney
Major Cities:
New Zurich (Baghdad): Capital of Province I
Nova Geneva (Riyadh): Capital of Province II
Sanaa: Capital of Province III
Dubai: Capital of Province IV
Jerusalem: Capital of Province V
Cairo: Capital of Province VI
New Bern: Captial of Administrative Zone One
New Lausanne: Capital of Administrative Zone Two
New Sion: Capital of Administrative Zone Three
Abu Dabi
Tel Aruhn
Tel Aviv
Damascus
Tehran
Military
Infantry Standard Issue
Tavor TAR-21
Mark XIX Desert Eagle
Glock 22
Body Armor (Type IV) And Fatigues
Imperium Air Force
F-16UAE
F 35 JSF
F117
B2 - Spirit
B52
Nuclear Ordinance *Classified*
All Six Submarines are armed with one ICBM Missile systems. Each one possesses a single warheads. The remaining Nuclear arsenal is distributed across highly secure nuclear silos throughout the Imperium these also possess independently targeting warheads. (OOC: I have 25 nukes in game)
4 ICBM's Total: 19 warheads
Province 1:
Alpha Silo: 1 Missile, 5 Warheads
Beta Silo: 1 Missile, 5 Warheads
Province 2:
Delta Silo: 1 Missile, 5 Warheads.
Gamma Silo: 1 Missile, 4 Warheads.
Treaties
Imperium-Ardoria (MDoAP): http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=49434
Imperium-Imperial Republic (MDAP): http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=49447