Confederation of Arctic Nations - HQ

[Californian]

"Just because the Imperium of Canada is in bed with France does not mean we all are. The island is in fact, a colony, however much you may disagree. We are not anti-colonists however we do believe they should be dealt with cautiously, hence why France should be an observer.

You state that many of our nations, including Atlantis, have ties to the French. Do you know how those ties were made? Centuries ago France ruled an empire in the America, from which our nations have evolved. Do you want another French empire in America? We simply want America for Americans and though we may be paranoid, we feel that is the best attitude in an environment where nations often strike quickly and fiercely.

As it is your sovereign land, you have every right to give some to France. But we are not willing to risk our necks for a nation that is so far away and with whom no previous contact has been made. This is exactly what the observer status was made for, improving relations."

[Zoot Zoot]

"Is the Imperiums word and trust in the French regime not enough Sir?

I have 100% confidence that the French have no Malicious intentions on America, and any attempt at illegal expansion, or imperialist actions on mainland North America, IE, an invasion, or illegal procuration of land, will result in a a personally backed counter offensive by the Imperium, for it would be our duty to clean up the mess we brought to our lands, if that be the case.

I implore the CAN to accept the French as part of this Confederation, they will proove to be a valuable addition to our community, not only that, but they have taken a personal interest in rebuilding my Capital. The aid the many nations of Bob has flooded the relief efforts and makes everything so much easier for the people of my Nation.


Another point I am raising is the point of Northan, the nation has dropped into anarchy due to the Queen being seriously ill by some form of illness.
Four Legions of the Imperiums finest will be landing later these evening to restore order and place Northan under the Imperiums Protectorate, however, due to them being a former nation of the CAN, Ive been instructed to request the following.

*Northan becomes a CAN/Imperium of Canada protectorate, three quarter split between the Imperium and the CAN.

The reason for our wanting an independant protectorate seperate from the CAN, is due to the Northern straights into the bay.
The Imperium controls 50% of the straight, and we wish 100% control over the striaght to activly combat drugs trafficing, piracy etc etc.

Here is a map faxed to me from the Imperial Tents.
[IMG]http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb144/zoot_zoot/northan.png[/IMG]


OOC, PM'd Cybil about it and she was ok with a full Imperium protectorate, but i figured i gotta give the CAN slice aswell.
she will be back later, just not at the moment, and she also said this whole thing fits into a long running roleplay she has.

Edited May 17, 2010 by Zoot Zoot

[Pikachurin]

[quote name='KingChris' date='17 May 2010 - 12:24 AM' timestamp='1274070259' post='2300942']
It has occurred to us that the monarchy, that despicable regime, had failed to sign as an observer. So here's our signature:

Gilbert Vainqueur
Deputy President of the Commonwealth of Texas

Oh, and it has occurred to us that all members of CAN happen to be in North America. Therefore, the Commonwealth of Texas would like to make a suggestion: change the "A" in CAN from Artic to American. By doing so, the CAN would be able to have a greater influence on world politics.
[/quote]

"Texas's signatures have been added to the Charter." said the Disparuean representative. "As for your second point, I will have to disagree with you for the same reason as my neo-Canadian counterpart. The Arctic isn't limited to North America, and this organization is not dedicated to having a greater influence on world politics, but instead is dedicated to the protection of the fragile Arctic environment and its people."


[quote name='Zoot Zoot' date='17 May 2010 - 01:06 PM' timestamp='1274115966' post='2301289']
"Is the Imperiums word and trust in the French regime not enough Sir?

I have 100% confidence that the French have no Malicious intentions on America, and any attempt at illegal expansion, or imperialist actions on mainland North America, IE, an invasion, or illegal procuration of land, will result in a a personally backed counter offensive by the Imperium, for it would be our duty to clean up the mess we brought to our lands, if that be the case.

I implore the CAN to accept the French as part of this Confederation, they will proove to be a valuable addition to our community, not only that, but they have taken a personal interest in rebuilding my Capital. The aid the many nations of Bob has flooded the relief efforts and makes everything so much easier for the people of my Nation.
[/quote]

[i]It's not like the entire CAN trusts you neo-Canadians, anyway.[/i] mused the Disparuean representative, though he quickly waved that thought off. "I believe what the Atlantic representative is trying to say is that it would be better if France merely obtains observer status this time." he said. "After all, being an observer allows you to benefit from the CAN in several ways, with the exception of defence. I am sure that France has good intentions with their colony here, however, the nations of the Arctic shouldn't have to be pulled into a war that doesn't relate to us to begin with."

[quote name='Zoot Zoot' date='17 May 2010 - 01:06 PM' timestamp='1274115966' post='2301289']
Another point I am raising is the point of Northan, the nation has dropped into anarchy due to the Queen being seriously ill by some form of illness.
Four Legions of the Imperiums finest will be landing later these evening to restore order and place Northan under the Imperiums Protectorate, however, due to them being a former nation of the CAN, Ive been instructed to request the following.

*Northan becomes a CAN/Imperium of Canada protectorate, three quarter split between the Imperium and the CAN.

The reason for our wanting an independant protectorate seperate from the CAN, is due to the Northern straights into the bay.
The Imperium controls 50% of the straight, and we wish 100% control over the striaght to activly combat drugs trafficing, piracy etc etc.

Here is a map faxed to me from the Imperial Tents.
[IMG]http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb144/zoot_zoot/northan.png[/IMG]
[/quote]

"How is the Queen?" asked the representative, concerned. "I personally hope she's okay, and not stuck in some irradiated tent in a refugee camp. Heh." he continued, chuckling. "In all seriousness, though, I would like to ask why the Imperium wishes to establish a protectorate outside their nation, if they would be better off if they focused all of their energy into getting back on their feet and moving forward. What I mean is that, why would you establish a protectorate if you still need another nation to help yourself get back on track?"

[Zoot Zoot]

"I didnt find your pun as funny as you obviously did. The Queen is not in a tent, she is in a hospital in Northan, in the CAN covered area, doctors say a full recovery will happen, she just needs lots of rest.
In all seriousness though. the Northern Straights into the bay have been long held under Canadian authority, due to the HBMI defence systems put in place on both sides.

However, due to the nature of what has happened to Northan, we feel it beneficial to place them under IOC protectorate status on the North side of the Island, due to its proximity to the Imperium.

Moreover, all of our energies are focussed on rebuilding, alongside the aid of the French Empire. Whilst the focuss on rebuilding, the forces and contractors in the area are focussing on humanitarian work.

However, we have Ellesmere Island to think about and the garrisons spread around our holdings internationally.

If we sat back and watched Northan Dissolve into Anarchy, we would be no better than the monsters who attacked my nation.
The Northern Imperium protectorate stays and the Queen granted permission to place the entire nation under Imperial Protectorate status, however we dont stand to benefit from that action, and so requested the CAN cover the remainder.

If it is the will of the CAN to make the French Empire an observer, then so be it, but I feel they deserve full membership."

Edited May 17, 2010 by Zoot Zoot

[Californian]

"However, we have Ellesmere Island to think about and the garrisons spread around our holdings internationally."

If Ellesmere Island is too bothersome for you we can always make it a CAN protectorate instead.

"If it is the will of the CAN to make the French Empire an observer, then so be it, but I feel they deserve full membership."

Your desire to blindly trust nations you have little to no experience with in the past has been noted.

[Zoot Zoot]

"Ellesmere island is NOT to bothersome, I was making the point, that whilst we have a large portion of man power internally, we also have large ammounts offshore.

And I am NOT getting into a slinging match Sir, Ive said my piece and stated my case in a civil manner to you and other representatives of the CAN, so please return the favour.

There is no blind trust either. Any nation who donates, sends aid, gives clean un polluted land is a friend of the Imperium, and the French have made it their personal interest to see that New London is reconstructed, and the population is rehomed and returns to normality as soon as possable.
We have every right to trust them, even if the Atlantic states does not, and that is our opinion on the matter."

[Pikachurin]

[quote name='Zoot Zoot' date='17 May 2010 - 06:58 PM' timestamp='1274137092' post='2301588']
"I didnt find your pun as funny as you obviously did. The Queen is not in a tent, she is in a hospital in Northan, in the CAN covered area, doctors say a full recovery will happen, she just needs lots of rest.
In all seriousness though. the Northern Straights into the bay have been long held under Canadian authority, due to the HBMI defence systems put in place on both sides.

However, due to the nature of what has happened to Northan, we feel it beneficial to place them under IOC protectorate status on the North side of the Island, due to its proximity to the Imperium.

However, we have Ellesmere Island to think about and the garrisons spread around our holdings internationally.

If we sat back and watched Northan Dissolve into Anarchy, we would be no better than the monsters who attacked my nation.
The Northern Imperium protectorate stays and the Queen granted permission to place the entire nation under Imperial Protectorate status, however we dont stand to benefit from that action, and so requested the CAN cover the remainder.

If it is the will of the CAN to make the French Empire an observer, then so be it, but I feel they deserve full membership."
[/quote]

"I can't see where I made a pun, but nevertheless, it wasn't intended to be a good joke. Anyways, with all due respect sir, instead of attempting to expand your control over the area while crippled, perhaps it would be better for your people if all of your forces are focused on your main holdings, specifically New London, instead of spreading them out all over the place. The Northanic people, meanwhile, can be looked after by the CAN and the CANJSF. We, as a whole, will be able to help the entire country more efficiently if the island was just one whole protectorate, instead of being split into two."

[kitex]

"It would be wise if France was given observer status. While I understand that the Imperium of Canada trusts the French and with good reason, I am thinking that if the French were attacked, how would we be able to fufill our mutual defense pact with them if we are a continent away. Though, the Canadian provision of having the MDP activated [i]only[/i] if the French protectorate in America is attacked seems quite sound. I think that we should give them observer status and send a small joint CAN force to protect their American lands, or the French themselves can send soldiers," said Whitney Azuma.

[Zoot Zoot]

"It was the Canadian Imperium charged with protecting Northan, we have almost 150,000 soldiers working with the small army of french units in New London, not even counting the civilian workers, external aid workers. Only four Legions were deployed into Northan to enact the protectorate.

The Emperor has sent a correspondance to the Northanic Queen for her confirmation behind the legality, and validity of our move and our request to the CAN.

Until we hear from the Queen, Canadian forces will not remove themselves from Northan, but the CAN is more than welcome to send troops into your sectors and place it under protectorate."

[Cybil de Blanc]

A recorded message was then delivered to the CAN, with a very tired-sounding Alysandra's voice speaking.

"Dude, seriously...let them have the bloody land they want. Geez Louise, there's nothing up there but reindeer herders and radiation, anyways! Give 'em some credit for wantin' to take care of t'place where their fallout's landin'.... Oh, and the CAN can have what the Canucks don't want. Queen says, stop bickering or I won't have a [i]DDR[/i] dance-off with you. Blech."

[center]- === -[/center]

OOC: Zoot's right. He gets what he asked for, and you guys can have the rest. It's part of a larger plot that will be commenced when I can get the time to do it.

[Zoot Zoot]

"Then it is settled ladies and Gentlemen, are we in agreement?"

[Californian]

[quote name='Zoot Zoot' date='17 May 2010 - 04:09 PM' timestamp='1274137722' post='2301602']

And I am NOT getting into a slinging match Sir, Ive said my piece and stated my case in a civil manner to you and other representatives of the CAN, so please return the favour.

There is no blind trust either. Any nation who donates, sends aid, gives clean un polluted land is a friend of the Imperium, and the French have made it their personal interest to see that New London is reconstructed, and the population is rehomed and returns to normality as soon as possable.
We have every right to trust them, even if the Atlantic states does not, and that is our opinion on the matter."
[/quote]

Ever thought they were only providing the aid so you would be willing to give them an island? Or is your nation too foresighted to consider such notions? Once act of kindness does not suddenly make an inseparable relationship, rather it marks the beginning of one. That is the purpose of the observer status. Why you continue to whore yourself out to France the people of Atlantis does not know. Many nations, including ourselves and Louisiana have provided you with tons of aid, free of charge, yet you find it necessary to crusade for the French Empire.

You are right to assume we do not trust France. We do not believe in suddenly becoming their lapdog after one act of kindness which numerous nations have also reciprocated. Instead, we prefer to monitor their actions to see if they are truly worthy of our friendship and comradarie.

Sir, in the chaotic world of today, if your nation is not paranoid, it is being manipulated. Which best describes the Imperium of Canada?

As for the Cyneriice Northan situation, what a disgrace the Imperium of Canada is to the Arctic region. The CAN is based on values of promoting mutual relations within the bloc. Instead the Imperium of Canada gobbles up land as soon as it deems fit, demonstrating how much it disregards the Confederation.

As a bureacracy and pact, it makes sense that a former CAN nation would revert to a CAN protectorate. If you truly needed the land, you could have petitioned the CAN for it, I'm sure there would have been no objections. Now you disgrace yourself and display blatant imperialist tendencies, some of the exact policies we are trying to curtail on this continent that holds so much promise.

[Zoot Zoot]

"It was a mutually benefitting arrangement, I need not explain my nations dealings with yourselves.
You ramble on like a drunk at the end of a bar, we already accepted that if it is the will of the CAN, Observer status they should be.

*Crusade for the French Empire* well I must say you have a point, but when has Louisiana and the Atlantic states/the Northern republic ever called on the I.O.C for help?

Nuclear attacks do make a nation paranoid, you never know if another is going to come and obliterate your nation once more, wouldnt you agree?
We dont NEED the land, we are honouring a request, and giving more that 3/4 of the Region to the CAN under CAN control.

Call us what you will Sir, we have been nothing put polite and thankful for the deeds this organisation has done for us recently, aswell as nations around the globe.

Now if you are QUITE done Sir, you have heard the words of the Northanic Queen, it is her wish, and her command. Respect her wishes."

[Pikachurin]

[quote name='Zoot Zoot' date='17 May 2010 - 11:04 PM' timestamp='1274151868' post='2301843']
"Then it is settled ladies and Gentlemen, are we in agreement?"
[/quote]

"Very well then, I shall rest my case."

OoC: Anyways, should we just disregard the Eggman Empire's and the Wilson Empire's votes for the three issues currently at vote? Eggman's currently away, while Wilson has been unresponsive as of late.

[Zoot Zoot]

OOC, Yeah why not Pika, we cant function with only three member states that are active.

[Pikachurin]

[quote name='Zoot Zoot' date='18 May 2010 - 06:24 PM' timestamp='1274221453' post='2302483']
OOC, Yeah why not Pika, we cant function with only three member states that are active.
[/quote]
OoC: Okay then.
IC:

"Due to the collapse of Cyneriice Northan's sovereign government, and since both the Eggman and Wilson representatives are absent from the Headquarters, I believe it would be safe to say that both the Imperium of Canada and the Atlantic States are now part of the Confederation of Arctic Nations as full members. Now, if you can just sign the Charter..."

"In regards to the Charter, I would like to point out that three of our observers - J Andres, Arctica, and the Tahoe Republic, currently do not have their signatures in the Charter. So yeah, just pointing that out."

"Anyways, I would like to put up a vote - the one regarding observer status for the Empire of France. Normally, this will require at least four yes votes to pass, however two of our representatives are currently absent, so therefore only three are needed at the moment.

Since the Federation is culturally connected to the French, Disparu shall vote yes."

[u][b]Should the Empire of France join the CAN as an observer?[/b][/u]
[b]Yes:[/b] Disparu
[b]No:[/b]
[b]Abstain:[/b]
[b]Need to Vote:[/b] Blue Heaven, Imperium of Canada, Atlantic States, [i]Eggman Empire[/i], [i]Wilson Empire[/i]

[kitex]

"Blue Heaven votes yes."

[Zoot Zoot]

General Lewis Signed the charter.

[i]General Lewis
Imperium of Canada[/i]

"The Imperium votes yes"

Edited May 18, 2010 by Zoot Zoot

[Pikachurin]

[quote name='Zoot Zoot' date='18 May 2010 - 06:44 PM' timestamp='1274222662' post='2302499']
General Lewis Signed the charter.

"The Imperium votes yes"
[/quote]

OoC: Post a signature like the one KingChris posted.

[quote name='kitex' date='18 May 2010 - 06:43 PM' timestamp='1274222572' post='2302498']
"Blue Heaven votes yes."
[/quote]

IC:

"Due to these votes, the Empire of France is hereby accepted into the CAN as an observer. [i]Bienvenue, mes amis.[/i][sup]1[/sup] If they wish, they may pursue membership in the near future."

OoC:

1 - [i]Bienvenue, mes amis.[/i] - Welcome, my friends.

[Zoot Zoot]

OOC edited

[Pikachurin]

[quote name='Zoot Zoot' date='18 May 2010 - 07:13 PM' timestamp='1274224394' post='2302525']
OOC edited
[/quote]
OoC: Thanks.
IC:

"On an unrelated note, since a lot of changes has happened in the CAN's membership lately, the CANJSF's roster, shown here...

[quote]Federal Republic of Grøenlandia - 5499.99 infrastructure - 20,110
Disparu - 5,300.00 infrastructure - 19,380
Eggman Empire - 6,737.01 infrastructure - 24,640
Cyneriice Northan - 1,180.00 infrastructure - 4,310
Monbossa - 235.85 infrastructure - 850
Blue Heaven - 3,400.00 infrastructure - 12,430
Kingdom of Niciae - 4,999.99 infrastructure - 18,280[/quote]

...has become severely outdated. Due to this, I would like all CAN member nations to resubmit their nation's infrastructure and military rankings so we will be able to restructure the CANJSF."

OoC: Ty, how did you calculate the troop numbers using infra?

[Zoot Zoot]

The Imperium has 3620.99 Infrastructure

[Zoot Zoot]

The Imperium wishes to present a proposal about Arctic held Tahoan Protectorates.

During this time of warfare across North America, the Emperor proposes a CAN taskforce claim the Tahoan Arctic protectorate, their armies are tied up across the continant, and they have ignored all calls to reason, and when we got a response, we got no definative answer.

A force of roughly 100,000 soldiers should be able to take the islands without resistance and enact a policing action in the name of the CAN.
Of course, given the Imperiums, and the CAN's recent disagreements, Imperium Soldiers can be kept out of this taskforce and help can be supplied in the form of using Ellesmere Island as a basing location to launch the move from.

This is of course open to debate, feel free to... point anything out.

Edited May 21, 2010 by Zoot Zoot

[Vedran]

"The Union of Arctica strongly objects to the Canadian proposal. It is completely unnecessary to station such a large amount of troops on such unimportant land. Not only that, but many islands in the Tahoe Arctic protectorate are adjacent to an important military and scientific base.

The deployment of such an alarming number of troops next to a secure installation is a potential threat to Arctican territorial integrity. Alternatively, we suggest a substantially smaller number of troops to secure the uninhabited land and police any potentially dangerous sites or items.

Five to ten thousand soldiers should be more than enough, and would not be perceived as a threat if stationed on these islands for a period of time."

[Zoot Zoot]

There are between 4 and 8 large islands that we do not know are inhabited or not Sir, which is why i said so many soldiers. We also need to be able to fight any attack thrown at us if there is resistance.